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SolidusDave
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(08-26-2016, 12:16 PM)
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A dude that I'm not at all attracted to walks into the room

Yeah sorry but you can stop after that comment.
Literally any subjective view on interactions with people will be either positive or negative based on that.
SillyEskimo
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(08-26-2016, 12:16 PM)
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The #1 complaint from every woman I have heard about porn is "the men are ugly". If the woman is not attracted to the male porn star, it does not matter how great the VR is because she will not be into it. This reviewer is a prime example.

I think it's the main reason women watch lesbian porn. The girls are hot.
YianGaruga
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(08-26-2016, 12:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by SillyEskimo

I think it's the main reason women watch lesbian porn. The girls are hot.

It's also the reason men watch lesbian porn
UrbanRats
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(08-26-2016, 12:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chairmanchuck

Lately they are experimenting though with "moving cameras" and such stuff though. The thing is that its a new medium and no one really knows how to produce good video content for it.

As you can see some studios dont even know how to do the proportions well while others can. Some studios use badly encoded videos, while others use well ones.

I think it will still take one year or more till the studios know how to produce better video content for VR.

Yeah, my point is that VR porn is very simple and basic so far (and boring).
And shouldn't really be seen as a working product yet (despite what the producers may say).
As you said, many of them can't even get proportions right yet, or even 60fps video.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(08-26-2016, 12:20 PM)
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Heard a couple months ago that VR porn feels pretty rapey for women.
karasu
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(08-26-2016, 12:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chairmanchuck

?

When it comes to VR porn movies there is the same lack of interactivity as with VR female porn movies.

There are some hentai games out there that offer some sort of interactivity though, but thats fictional.

Yeah I remembered it wrong. They all agreed on it but Alanah pointed out that the maker of the porn told her that all women they tested it on react the way she did.
UrbanRats
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(08-26-2016, 12:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by SolidusDave

Yeah sorry but you can stop after that comment.
Literally any subjective view on interactions with people will be either positive or negative based on that.

VR Porn can get a bit weird (at first at least) when they get too close to the camera and you're unable to move, regardless of how attractive you find the performer.
This is true for men as well, so not that hard to believe.

Still, as i said that's where the technology is at right now, not much you can do about it, other than try to film around the problem (with very little wiggle room).
Pantaghana
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(08-26-2016, 12:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by UrbanRats

There are not really tastes or interests in VR Porn.
The technology is so limited so far, that there's basically only one thing available, and little else.

Yeah, I think you're right and it's poor wording on my part, should have said perspective.
Monocle
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(08-26-2016, 12:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rowlet

Porn in general is awful, so i'm not all too surprised here.

Porn owns, watch better porn.
Devil
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(08-26-2016, 12:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by rochellepaws

This sounds awful, more like a horror game.

Not if you expect simulated fucking with a random pornstar. Which is what I would expect when watching VR porn.
jroc74
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(08-26-2016, 12:48 PM)
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Most women I know are into the porn men like. Like some of the same scenes too.

I'm guessing with VR this POV is from the woman's eyes. Yea....that might need a lil tweaking. Or just keep it 3rd person.
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(08-26-2016, 12:48 PM)
Proteus
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(08-26-2016, 01:03 PM)
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As someone who has an Oculus Rift and has tried a bunch of different kinds of "VR Porn" (It's really just 3D 180/360 video) I can say that these are definitely issues for everyone:
  • There is 0 interactivity in 360 videos for men and women. Zero. That creates the lack of control for either sex. It's the nature of the beast since you're essentially watching a video.

    The size of the models is disproportionate in a lot of videos. Many of them feature models that look larger than the norm. This has a lot to do with cameras being used and positioning. There is a subreddit dedicated to VR Porn that has a long list of these types of issues.

    Video quality is a huge issue. We're talking 4k video that still ends up looking less than ideal due to the VR headsets not being able to output higher resolutions to the eye. It definitely takes you out of the experience.

I'm sure essays can be written about the failings of the porn industry when it comes to women but certain aspects of 360 Video "VR Porn" are simply universal failings due to technology and pornographers still figuring out how to best utilized the medium.

There is also a severe lack of gay or trans content as well. I believe virtualrealporn is the only content provider out there that I have seen offering to those markets.

Edit: Just to add. My best experience with 360 video is the use of 3D sound. When the models whisper in your ear. You not only hear that but you feel it. Sends shivers through my body. I absolutely love that.

I have also tried it from the women's perspective, because, why not. Yeah, there's nothing that I enjoyed about it. You're just laying there lack a slab as a man or a woman.

A lot of my personal fetishes and kinks have zero content right now. It's vanilla as fuck.

Originally Posted by Familienoberhauptvogel

Heard a couple months ago that VR porn feels pretty rapey for women.

I can see that. There is a complete lack of control. For a man, control is important as well. From a male perspective, it just makes things dull.
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beril
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(08-26-2016, 01:25 PM)
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VR Porn in general is shit. 360/180 degree videos simply aren't acceptable VR. So, better get working on those photo realistic skin shaders, because anything but realtime 3D doesn't work for VR.
UrbanRats
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(08-26-2016, 03:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by beril

VR Porn in general is shit. 360/180 degree videos simply aren't acceptable VR. So, better get working on those photo realistic skin shaders, because anything but realtime 3D doesn't work for VR.

Is there really a market for people to invest time and money into an high end 3d software for porn?
90% of porn software/games is cheap garbage for a reason.
Galava
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(08-26-2016, 03:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by jellies_two

Freaky sense of scale (when someone is on top of you they are a giant).

That might be camera lens related.
family_guy
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(08-26-2016, 03:37 PM)
Open a Tinder app and swipe right. You'll get laid and probably a free drink and a meal.
Onemic
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(08-26-2016, 03:38 PM)
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Seems to be the same problems on the male side as well. Sense of scale and lack of interaction is a general VR porn problem that negatively affects both demographics.
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(08-26-2016, 03:41 PM)
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Beth Cyra
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(08-26-2016, 03:41 PM)
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I agree.

I've tried VR porn and for me it was awful.

It doesn't help as a lesbian the content is pretty much non existent.

Granted I don't care for porn but I thought maybe it'd be fun, but yeah it was bad.
optimiss
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(08-26-2016, 04:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by DR2K

This sounds like it's designed with something men think women want.

I think it is probably designed for men who like to fantasize about sex as a woman.
Froli
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(08-26-2016, 04:19 PM)
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Have the girl on top.
UrbanRats
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(08-26-2016, 04:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Froli

Have the girl on top.

The thing is, the user's POV must remain static or you'd get strong nausea, so you can't really have a lot of bouncing around.
That's why even from a male POV, the user is always just a guy laying back and doing close to nothing but having an erection.
pj
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(08-26-2016, 04:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Familienoberhauptvogel

Heard a couple months ago that VR porn feels pretty rapey for women.

Due to the necessity of having a fixed-camera for VR video, the body of "you" has to be pretty motionless.

"You" usually don't talk either because it is weird to hear someone else's voice coming from inside your head. Sometimes "you" will use your hands to touch the other folks in the video but that is also uncommon because it breaks immersion.

These are limitations of video based VR porn that will not go away. Having women making porn for women isn't going to make it a different experience. Maybe the guys will be better looking.

The one VR porn I've seen is a guy on a bed who is paralyzed or something and 3 chicks come in and start making sex on him. That's gotta be rape, but they had nice butts so whatever.
GrizzleBoy
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(08-26-2016, 04:59 PM)

Why vr porn is awful

DAFUQ ARE YOU TALKING AB-

(For women)

Okay.

I don't know. The criticisms for lady perspective vr pron seem to apply to male perspective vr pron too don't they?

Camera doesn't move. No "power" to do anything apart from watch what's happening, etc.

But I was pretty amazed the first time I tried it. So I guess it just depends whether you actually like what you're seeing?
afternoon delight
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(08-26-2016, 05:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rowlet

Porn in general is awful, so i'm not all too surprised here.

Basically.
Sai-kun
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(08-26-2016, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy

DAFUQ ARE YOU TALKING AB-



Okay.

I don't know. The criticisms for lady perspective vr pron seem to apply to male perspective vr pron too don't they?

Camera doesn't move. No "power" to do anything apart from watch what's happening, etc.

But I was pretty amazed the first time I tried it. So I guess it just depends whether you actually like what you're seeing?

I couldn't watch the video so I don't know exactly how the porn played out, but there is definitely a different feeling of powerlessness when you're watching through the eyes of someone who's doing all the motions/thrusting vs. laying under someone and being..thrusted...into 😂 Obviously you're not really interacting either way, but the POV from the person on top is a different vibe.

I wonder if there's any POV porn of someone riding a dick 🤔✨ That would be pretty hot.
pj
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(08-26-2016, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sai-kun

I couldn't watch the video so I don't know exactly how the porn played out, but there is definitely a different feeling of powerlessness when you're watching through the eyes of someone who's doing all the motions/thrusting vs. laying under someone and being..thrusted...into 😂 Obviously you're not really interacting either way, but the POV from the person on top is a different vibe.

I wonder if there's any POV porn of someone riding a dick 🤔✨ That would be pretty hot.

"You" can't be the person doing the movements in VR porn. The actual you will throw up from the camera movements.

Male perspective VR porn is just as passive.
Sai-kun
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(08-26-2016, 05:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by pj

"You" can't be the person doing the movements in VR porn. The actual you will throw up from the camera movements.

Male perspective VR porn is just as passive.

Oh I see. I haven't actually watched any VR porn, so maybe I should do some research first somehow ✨🌚 I just assumed it would be pretty similar to POV stuff.
echoshifting
(08-26-2016, 05:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by UrbanRats

Is there really a market for people to invest time and money into an high end 3d software for porn?
90% of porn software/games is cheap garbage for a reason.

And that reason is sex sells. People will watch literally anything if there's definitely going to be sex in it. I don't think that implies there is no market for an incredibly immersive XXX experience that might be $60. In fact I'd need a second headset since my wife and I like to watch together, and I can't conceive of anything else that would drive me to purchase a second one. The video author is not wrong when she says tech jumps forward are driven at least in part by porn.

The problem is, if you wanted to make a really good one you'd have to appeal specifically to people who enjoy a particular type of porn. There isn't really any such thing as a "generic" porn anymore; even the standard "he's here to fix the cable" scenarios are really their own genre now.

I think some kinky people (us included) would be on board no matter what type of porn it was, though. (Within reason, of course)
megalowho
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(08-26-2016, 05:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Onemic

Seems to be the same problems on the male side as well. Sense of scale and lack of interaction is a general VR porn problem that negatively affects both demographics.

Indeed. Messed around with it for a bit when I got a Vive. There's definitely some initial wow factor with the 3D effect and intimacy illusion but the issues - weird scaling, being a passive/invisible participant, framerate and video quality causing headaches, overly professional scenes with bad pornstar acting - all seem like they'd be turn offs regardless of sex or preference. Camera movement doesn't work either, even more headache inducing.
hodayathink
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(08-26-2016, 05:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sai-kun

Oh I see. I haven't actually watched any VR porn, so maybe I should do some research first somehow ✨🌚 I just assumed it would be pretty similar to POV stuff.

It's similar, but the differences are substantial enough that they have to be accounted for (limited camera movement is the big thing because you can make some people sick). Stuff like active vs. passive performers and first vs. third person is more a matter of preference, and the reason we get more passive and more first person is more because the market isn't there yet in terms of size that any real technical limitations.
PSqueak
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(08-26-2016, 05:58 PM)
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Trying to make "normal" VR porn sounds like it would end up repulsive 99% regardless of gender.

VR porn with the CGI technology we have now should focus on specific fetishes and kinks, that's where VR porn will shine, fantasy fetishism.
Pankratous
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(08-26-2016, 06:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Hamburglar

I've always wondered what kind of porn do women actually watch?

The same kind of porn men watch.
Neo C.
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(08-26-2016, 06:30 PM)
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Not really interested in POV porn, they are boring.

Eventually a Japanese company will nail the VR hentai game, but it will take a while (also the good/bad games ratio is horribly one-sided).
Media
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(08-26-2016, 06:35 PM)
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I think the problem will come down to that men tend be more visual, and women tend to be more mental when it comes to porn.

If there's no emotional connection to the characters, we tend not to be as turned on by it.

It's fun sometimes to just watch some fucking, but I can't see VR porn being a big hit with the ladies, because it's all about the visual.

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