bloodforge
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2 and a half hours to go. Not being able to preload a game this large is just stupid.
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Batman: Arkham City PC release date now Nov 18 - Steam version uses Steamworks
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morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Not only is there no actual preload... you still have to decrypt the files as if you had preloaded.
Amazing.
Amazing.
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
I never had to decrypt. That's odd that it wants you to do it.
Anyway, it's not crashing anymore. I'm not sure why it did the first two times. Time to kick ass.
Anyway, it's not crashing anymore. I'm not sure why it did the first two times. Time to kick ass.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Weird. Do you have Arkham City PC? Or did you pre-order through Steam?
I'm just assuming this game won't run well for me even though I have a 2600k and a 580. I suck at pc gaming.
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
Arkham City PC. I got it with an Nvidia code I bought on eBay.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Oh dear. You guys are not going to be happy. I'm sure not.
So I tried to run it with PhysX on High... nope, on the benchmark it stuttered like crazy, ran like shit. Tried on Normal... still shitty. Turned it off... ok, not bad, but...
Well, let's just let the results speak for themselves.
Specs:
2500k @ 4.5 Ghz
8 GB of RAM
Vertex 2 SSD
Nvidia GTX 570 @ 900/2050 (285.79 drivers)
Settings: Max everything, DirectX 11, 8x MSAA, Physx OFF, Vsync off
Minimum: 0
Average: 38
Maximum: 58
What. The. Fuck. Unless I'm just an anomaly and others with similar specs get great performance, Rocksteady and Warner Bros are in for a nasty reaction from PC gamers, especially high-end ones.
Might try to throw in my 8800 GT as a dedicated PhysX card and see if it works or if the performance still sucks.
Also: you know it's a bad sign when the Nvidia logo stutters EVERY time you load up the game.
So I tried to run it with PhysX on High... nope, on the benchmark it stuttered like crazy, ran like shit. Tried on Normal... still shitty. Turned it off... ok, not bad, but...
Well, let's just let the results speak for themselves.
Specs:
2500k @ 4.5 Ghz
8 GB of RAM
Vertex 2 SSD
Nvidia GTX 570 @ 900/2050 (285.79 drivers)
Settings: Max everything, DirectX 11, 8x MSAA, Physx OFF, Vsync off
Minimum: 0
Average: 38
Maximum: 58
What. The. Fuck. Unless I'm just an anomaly and others with similar specs get great performance, Rocksteady and Warner Bros are in for a nasty reaction from PC gamers, especially high-end ones.
Might try to throw in my 8800 GT as a dedicated PhysX card and see if it works or if the performance still sucks.
Also: you know it's a bad sign when the Nvidia logo stutters EVERY time you load up the game.
FloppyDelux
Member
still have a hour and half to go...
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Do you have a dedicated physX card?
Wow. I don't know what to say. OPTIMIZATION?!
That's disappointing, my system is worse than that (i5-750, gtx460)... guess I shouldn't expect a great performance
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Don't need one when PhysX is off. I will try putting an 8800 GT in and seeing if it runs better with it dedicated on Normal/High.
Edit: UPDATE I may have a solution. Give me 5 mins to test.
Edit 2: UPDATE 2
Apparently AA destroys the game's performance. Turned off AA and DX11... 150+ FPS. Ok. Turned on DX11. 90+ FPS. Ok.
Turned on 4x AA, ran benchmark, here's what I got :
Minimum: 0 (yes, there is random stuttering during camera pans at times, absolutely RETARDED)
Avg: 54
Maximum: 98
Ok, better. But why? Nvidia inspector shows that there's Transparency Supersampling special bits for Batman Arkham City, Bad Company 2, etc and it was automatically enabled. Let's try turning that off...
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edit: Nevermind, just bad AA performance. Phew, crisis averted! I never try to go over 2x AA in any game, anyway.
FloppyDelux
Member
isnt AA suppose to improve the game?
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Yep, horrible AA performance.
4x MSAA is ok. It stutters in the benchmark when panning the camera.
32x CSAA is unplayable and avgs under 40 FPS.
Ridiculous. The way it's meant to be played, indeed.
UGH. My comp's wifi usb adapter crapped out on me so I had to tether my phone to download this. I'm actually bridging the wifi on the phone and not using the data so the carrier wont come bitching at me. 950 KB/s :/
Edit: My PS3 was downloading crap so it slowed it down. Getting 1.5 MB/s now.
Will be done in 2 hours
Edit: My PS3 was downloading crap so it slowed it down. Getting 1.5 MB/s now.
Will be done in 2 hours
You poor soul
Are those numbers really that ridiculous though? What kind of performance were you expecting in the game @ max settings + AA (stuttering aside)
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Um, yes? You realize 32x CSAA is just 8x AA with some extra coverage samples/color correction essentially?
I was expecting 70-90 FPS with those settings.
Here's Arkham Asylum benchmarks with a worse system than mine using 16x CSAA:
System Specs:
GPU: eVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 8.17.11.9755 1536Mb(700 / 1401 / 3696) OC-(775 / 1550 / 2010) @ 1680x1050
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 9400(R0) @ 3.6Ghz
Memory: Mushkin 2x2GB Blackline DDR2 1066Mhz @ 1080
Motherboard: Asus P5Q-PRO
Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Disk Drive: LG DVD Writer
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA II
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling 750 Watt Quad Slincer - Blue
Monitor
OS: Windows 7 Professional
Batman Arkham Asylum v1.1 + PhysX - DX10
Normal PhysX no OC: Avg-72, Min-40, Max-108
High PhysX with OC:: Avg-74, Min-43, Max-120
MSAA - 16X Q
Detail Level - Very High
Bloom - Yes
Dynamic Shadows - Yes
Motion Blur - Yes
Distortion - Yes
Fog Volumes - Yes
Spherical Harmonic Lighting - Yes
Ambient Occlusion - Yes
Hardware Accelerated PhysX - Yes
CSAA really isn't much more intensive than 8x MSAA. 8x MSAA isn't intensive for a game like Arham Asylum at all.
But it runs like dog shit on Arkham City.
i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz
x2 6950's @ 900/1350
Everything set to max, no AA, tessellation set to normal, physx off.
Game runs like shit. Getting as low as 13fps during the opening
fight.
Going to try it in DX9 I guess. This is pretty ridiculous though considering how Arkham Asylum runs like complete butter with everything maxed.
x2 6950's @ 900/1350
Everything set to max, no AA, tessellation set to normal, physx off.
Game runs like shit. Getting as low as 13fps during the opening
Bruce Wayne
Going to try it in DX9 I guess. This is pretty ridiculous though considering how Arkham Asylum runs like complete butter with everything maxed.
Ok I understand now
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Playing the real game now... avg fps in the first few scenes has been around 40. 4x MSAA, maxed, 1080p, PhysX on High.
I'll try turning PhysX down to Normal but this is a joke so far. The game dropped to 7 FPS during a quick scene transition. :|
I'm not alone. Looks like even AMD users are having problems, without AA even. And with SLI 6950's! So perhaps this isn't a driver problem...? If this isn't driver related and really is the game itself, FUCK YOU WARNER BROS for not spending the last SIX WEEKS optimizing it.
That's a pre-emptive fuck you, of course.
LOL, I guess I know why now the game defaulted to FXAA High. I am guessing somehow Rocksteady screwed the pooch and antialiasing is fucked up in performance somehow? Doesn't add up.
I'll try turning PhysX down to Normal but this is a joke so far. The game dropped to 7 FPS during a quick scene transition. :|
I'm not alone. Looks like even AMD users are having problems, without AA even. And with SLI 6950's! So perhaps this isn't a driver problem...? If this isn't driver related and really is the game itself, FUCK YOU WARNER BROS for not spending the last SIX WEEKS optimizing it.
That's a pre-emptive fuck you, of course.
LOL, I guess I know why now the game defaulted to FXAA High. I am guessing somehow Rocksteady screwed the pooch and antialiasing is fucked up in performance somehow? Doesn't add up.
Yikes... Will definitely wait for either patches, fix from AMD and probably pick it up when it's on steam sale for $5 if they think it's cool to release such a gimped version esp for it running that horribly on ATI hardware..... Do you have MSI afterburner or any tool to monitor how much gpu usage is being used? Is crossfire even enabled? Either way :|
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I have the exact same system as you...with everything set to max i get:
I was shocked the game ran so badly....this is a disgrace....my GTX570 shouldnt have to sweat this much just to get the game running smoothly.
Its especially funny that the Nvidia logo stutters....serious patch this shit.
I'll try running the game with AA off or very low....but right now im pretty hurt by the benchmark......even though in game so far the game runs flawlessly 50+
P.S Gonna try finding some tweaks in the .ini files....im bound to find a way to get that random single digit fps out.
The fuck?! I just built a new computer that has your same CPU, but my video card is just a single HD5850. If yours is struggling with 2 cards that are more powerful than mine, then I am seriously concerned about this.
It seems ridiculous that the game does not run well on these really high-end systems.
mercenar1e
Member
what's the performance like on AMD?
My rig
I5 2500k @stock(3.3)
4gb ram
gtx 460 1gb(stock)
I'm getting like an average of 30 fps and a max of 51 fps or so yet my min fps goes down the shitter at 7, 1 or 0 with dx11 on and AA off.
I'm installing the new driver now and have 13% left to download. I'll let you know.
6950 here.
I have no idea and wasn't even considering DX11 to be honest. Seems like that is indeed the problem.
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
For those people who are just worried about the game running at all on weaker systems, you should be fine if you could run Arkham Asylum. After adjusting my settings, I'm averaging 30 FPS. It's on medium settings, which is slightly better than what the console versions looked like. I hate to turn off Dynamic Shadows, but it seemed to be quickest solution to keeping the framerate up. I'll mess around with it some more tomorrow.
Rabid Wolverine
Member
AMD just released a new performance Driver that includes Arkham City Optimations. Report back how this driver goes.
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/hotfix/catalyst_11.11_hotfixes/amd_catalyst_11.11a_windows_vista_7.exe
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/hotfix/catalyst_11.11_hotfixes/amd_catalyst_11.11a_windows_vista_7.exe
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Update
DirectX11 is indeed the culprit, at least combined with MSAA. With DX11 and MSAA on, the minimum FPS shoots up from 2-3 at times to 45.
Runs sooooooo much smoother in DX10 mode.
WTF, Rocksteady. Seriously!?
Benchmarks with DX11 off
Settings: Max settings, 1080p, PhysX: HIGH, Vsync OFF, 32x CSAA
Minimum: 27
Maximum: 99
Avg: 54
DirectX11 is indeed the culprit, at least combined with MSAA. With DX11 and MSAA on, the minimum FPS shoots up from 2-3 at times to 45.
Runs sooooooo much smoother in DX10 mode.
WTF, Rocksteady. Seriously!?
Benchmarks with DX11 off
Settings: Max settings, 1080p, PhysX: HIGH, Vsync OFF, 32x CSAA
Minimum: 27
Maximum: 99
Avg: 54
mercenar1e
Member
I kind of thought this would happen after the delay but this is getting ridiculous now as it seems like every single game has performance problems at release. Hell, Saints Row 3 is another example just recently and that was developed in-house this time!
I hope there's a miracle and it runs well for me with 2x AA I guess.
I hope there's a miracle and it runs well for me with 2x AA I guess.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Nope. I just checked, turned on DX11 with Tesselation OFF.
Same performance. YUCK.
Also, when you turn off DX11, it forces DX9 mode. However, you can also force DX10 mode in the ini. Let me try that.
Saint's Row 3 runs like butter in DX11 mode. Very well optimized game.
Stahsky
A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
Not for me. Can barely break 30 FPS even on lowest settings at lowest resolution. AMD is my issue, though. PC issues are starting to bum me out.
SUPARSTARX
Member
Thank you GFWL.
I load into the game and press start, then crash.
I load into the game and press start, then crash.
masterkajo
Member
So by installing the new CCC 11.11a it should fix this problem for DX11? I am still downloading Batman... very slow here.
running i5 760 @ 3.8ghz
8gig ram
2 regular gtx560 1gig cards (1 dedicated to physx = High)
1080p/DX11
everything set to max except Tesselation is normal, and using FXAA (currently on medium, tried it on high and it didn't seem much different at all)
min fps = 1
max fps = 60
average is 35
benchmark stutters a fair amount at times ...ie, camera turning around at the start and during the part with that lion statue on the building.
maybe the benchmark is fucked somehow? i dunno. seems kinda screwed up.
edit: i had vsync enabled during the bench. i play all my games with vsync on so i don't care about frames above 60 right now.
8gig ram
2 regular gtx560 1gig cards (1 dedicated to physx = High)
1080p/DX11
everything set to max except Tesselation is normal, and using FXAA (currently on medium, tried it on high and it didn't seem much different at all)
min fps = 1
max fps = 60
average is 35
benchmark stutters a fair amount at times ...ie, camera turning around at the start and during the part with that lion statue on the building.
maybe the benchmark is fucked somehow? i dunno. seems kinda screwed up.
edit: i had vsync enabled during the bench. i play all my games with vsync on so i don't care about frames above 60 right now.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Turn off DX11. With DX11 off, max settings, 8x MSAA, PhysX on High, my avg FPS is 57. All those stutters are eliminated in DX9 mode.
DX11 is apparently fucked in this game, or the drivers are. We'll see.
Way to go, Rocksteady/Warner Bros. What a great fucking release. Assholes.
That Rage fix list is mindblowing. The game released almost two months ago.