Rising_Hei
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Obviously, stop making sequels and make proper FFs already
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Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII launches in Japan with low sales of 277k
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Okay, let's ignore that it was outsold by a PSP/Vita game last week. Lol.
My thoughts from the sales thread:
There's almost none left, that's true but FF started well in this generation selling around 2 million than it just droped. The question is why? Was it the market? Maybe but that same market did bought XIII in big numbers. Why did they not come back for the other FF games on the console? The only answer I can think of is they didn't want sequels or the quality of the said games was not up to par.
There's almost none left, that's true but FF started well in this generation selling around 2 million than it just droped. The question is why? Was it the market? Maybe but that same market did bought XIII in big numbers. Why did they not come back for the other FF games on the console? The only answer I can think of is they didn't want sequels or the quality of the said games was not up to par.
HolyBaikal
Banned
Tales of Xillia also sold better than Final Fantasy XIII-2 in Japan. So it Tales of Xillia 2.
Final Fantasy no longer holds the staying power it once did in Japan. Dragon Quest does, but not Final Fantasy. Japan never associated Final Fantasy with RPGs as the West has, Dragon Quest is the iconic RPG for them. And it's probably easy for them to ignore a Final Fantasy game that doesn't look good to them, as the games probably aren't that much of a curiosity, whether good or bad. Whereas a lot of Westerners buy Final Fantasy because of the name, even if they think of the game as bad, their curiosity leads them to buying the games. Whereas it seems like it is very easy for Japan to move on from Final Fantasy and give attention to other franchises like Monster Hunter.
I would like the West to be able to move on from Final Fantasy a similar way to how Japan is doing. But I do understand the Western phenomenon that is Final Fantasy. It will be harder and take longer for the West to move out of the Final Fantasy 'bubble', so to speak.
I think it can and will happen eventually, though. Especially if Square Enix doesn't turn their development around.
Final Fantasy no longer holds the staying power it once did in Japan. Dragon Quest does, but not Final Fantasy. Japan never associated Final Fantasy with RPGs as the West has, Dragon Quest is the iconic RPG for them. And it's probably easy for them to ignore a Final Fantasy game that doesn't look good to them, as the games probably aren't that much of a curiosity, whether good or bad. Whereas a lot of Westerners buy Final Fantasy because of the name, even if they think of the game as bad, their curiosity leads them to buying the games. Whereas it seems like it is very easy for Japan to move on from Final Fantasy and give attention to other franchises like Monster Hunter.
I would like the West to be able to move on from Final Fantasy a similar way to how Japan is doing. But I do understand the Western phenomenon that is Final Fantasy. It will be harder and take longer for the West to move out of the Final Fantasy 'bubble', so to speak.
I think it can and will happen eventually, though. Especially if Square Enix doesn't turn their development around.
Senor Kami
Banned
I'm not surprised. #1 they're sequels to sequels and #2 each one seems to be worse than the one before it. I've watched some Twitch streams and this game seems really fecal.
I wouldn't worry about FF as a brand though. 14 is doing well and 15 seems to be pretty hyped. If 15 doesn't match 13's sales then it's time to worry.
I wouldn't worry about FF as a brand though. 14 is doing well and 15 seems to be pretty hyped. If 15 doesn't match 13's sales then it's time to worry.
LOL
Meccanical
Member
Honestly they probably still made profit off it.
Have you seen the game?
It ain't exactly Crysis.
Have you seen the game?
It ain't exactly Crysis.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
DrROBschiz
Member
Both had terrible characters and stories
I hope this finally puts Lightning and her ilk to rest
What a horrible phase in the series gawd
Unknown One
Member
Depends on how well FF15 sells.
FF13 and all it's sequel is truly the dark ages for FF fans.
Hopefully lesson learnt.
Rising_Hei
Member
Also, you guys can't extrapolate this fiasco to every FF, im 100 % sure that FFXV will sell 1-2 m once again
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
HYPER dead or ULTRA DEAD and can only be revived by unicorn blood and a sprig of whistleyist from a cave in the Sahara.
That's a reasonable assumption.
But the hurt on the franchises image could cost them way more than what they will have gained with this triology.
If XV fails, I think we will have witnessed the fall of one of the biggest franchise in the gaming world.
Japanese publishers really need to step up their game before they become completely irrelevant.
I always question the sanity of people when they want game companies to fail with their games. My favorite is that now they will make 'good games'. The reality is that one bad game could mean the end of the company. People still wonder why SE gravitates toward the profitable mobile scene.
Nobody asked for this game. If they were smart, they should have licenced Cryengine 3 and created something new between 2011 and now.
RPGCrazied
Member
Anyone want to guess how fast the price will drop in NA? Didn't XIII-2 drop price pretty fast? I give this no more than 2 months before its $19.99.
Sure I can see that but FF will never reach XIII numbers in Japan again unless they change the platform or something.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Well... that is depressing for 3D World and the WiiU in Japan.
It will cuz it's not FFXIII related anymore.
This bit was golden.
xD
That doesn't change the fact that this is the flagship title for Square Enix this year, and it is a major title in their flagship Japanese franchise. It's embarrassing. We're not talking about a tiny publisher who is happy making low budget stuff which is profitable to survive here. We're talking about one of the biggest publishers in Japan with a staff in Japan of over a thousand people.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Watch the western sales beating that of Japan.
The days of FF reigning in its mother land is over.
The days of FF reigning in its mother land is over.
FFXV worldwide release confirmed.
brandonh83
Banned
I honestly don't think XV looks any more promising than XIII looked before it came out, and for all we know it's going to have the same god awful writing and voice acting and such and such that was wrong with XIII. All I've seen from XV is a weird looking all male cast and bullshit gameplay footage. Don't get me wrong, I'm hopeful, but so far there's nothing really to suggest that it's about to get any better. I'm hoping to eat crow.
Meccanical
Member
I will go with your prediction.
And honestly I might be willing to drop money on this and get it.
This will ironically be the first XIII game I actually pay to play.
Interfectum
Member
Maybe Squeenix will finally learn no one gives a fuck about FF13 or Lightning?
Nah, the game was made to fund his trip to france so he can marry Lightning
In GTAV's first week, it sold almost 100,000 units more, or 360,115 copies. That's a Western game. In Japan.
RPGCrazied
Member
I bet X/X-2 HD remaster sells more than LR.
3D World will keep selling and could very well outsell Lightning Returns in the coming weeks, imo. Nintendo games usually show great legs around years end.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
Member
Good. Maybe they will learn something from this.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Drugs are that cheap nowadays?
kenji_sama
Member
Expected. Meanwhile, FFXIV ARR is suprisingly a quality game and the sale exceeded SE's expectation.
You see, SE. Crap never sells.
You see, SE. Crap never sells.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
That is insane. Well done Japan. Hopefully the US will follow their lead.
Salikawoods? Haven't heard of that yet in FFXIV.
RPGCrazied
Member
It's easier to just release them as is. I'd probably expect to see an iOS version before to long. Its sad, I'd love to see some sort of remaster for 7, 8 and 9. That's a lot of redrawing the backgrounds though.
slaughterking
Member
It's really tragic how that franchise wasted a whole (overly long, even) generation to attract new people to it and stay relevant. Western markets especially will largely have to re-learn to enjoy and understand what a Japanese RPG is once XV comes around. I wonder how that will go.