I don't know what gameplay vid you saw, but that's how they finished the e3 gameplay vid they put out, by doing that attack.
inFAMOUS Second Son Gameplay (timed just before he does the move)
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Microsoft Confirms 53MHz GPU Speed Upgrade For Xbox One
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I don't know what gameplay vid you saw, but that's how they finished the e3 gameplay vid they put out, by doing that attack.
inFAMOUS Second Son Gameplay (timed just before he does the move)
Infamous 2 was incredibly boring after a while. I really like the games and did everything I could possibly muster in both but I wouldnt say they were among the best in the industry. They try, which is a lot better than most devs, but fall short in the first 2. Second son looks like the best next gen game announced for me tho.
LeeFowler.CU
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All it took was a 53 MHz upgrade? You aren't hard to please at all.
A lot of people aren't making final decisions until launch. Nothing really matters at all until launch for a ton of people.
MMaRsu
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And you've seen more than 5 minutes of gameplay from an early build? Please gtfo lol...
LeeFowler.CU
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Dude did you even see that thread yesterday about the Major Nelson blog post? It was full of shitposts and trolling for 3 pages until people were actually able to discuss the content of the article. A mod had to close it and warn people against that kind of behavior. It isn't confirmation bias, its confirmation.
Dlacy13g
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Wait...why is there some prolonged Infamous discussion in a thread about the Xbox One GPU getting a bump?
On point... Any increases pre-launch are certainly a good thing in my opinion. Once these machines are released I don't think we see any kind of future bumps so its now or never for this box.
dragonfart28
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After seeing the Deep Downgrade, I wouldn't trust anything you see that isn't proven gameplay with utmost certainty.
gaming_noob
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That's confirmation bias alright.
Kazuma Kiryu
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Well, i'm sure people will be glad that footage is from gameplay then.
50% difference translated to real world gains of up to 24% in actual game framerate, so a game running 40fps on XBO is running 49.6fps on PS4 with identical settings (According to Digital Foundry)
50% compute - 24% framerate difference
40% compute - X framerate difference
X = 19.2% framerate gains over XBO
So the same game running 40fps on XBO will run 47.7 fps on PS4... fuzzy math but in the end the difference between XBO and PS4 has shrunk a bit. Tweak shadows, lod or AA and devs can easily equalize the framerate with minimal loss is visual.
Miles Quaritch
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It's an example of what will now be possible on the Xbox One thanks to the extra 53MHz.
MMaRsu
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Crackdown? Lol talk about a repetitive game with a dead ass lifeless world. And I LOVED Crackdown. Your post is factually wrong.
Iced_Eagle
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Nice, a spec upgrade to a console I already bought. I'll take it!
Someone put Bish face on that and BANNED!!! at the explosion and we got a keeper.
iceatcs
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Maybe, if it is only overclock the GPU clock. We might see less than 6% increasing performance in overall.
If you want near 100% effective, you will need overclock memory clock too.
Console could be different.
dragonfart28
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I will take a ban bet that the final product doesn't look as good as that.
(not permaban though)
I guess for some people they are. Personally, I really don't care too much neither about Sony's first party studios nor about Microsoft's. So, I'm choosing the console that (I think) will be superior for third party games, which are the ones that interest me the most.
As for the casual market, sure. You can make a console and then decide whether to market it more for the casual or the hardcore player. Problem is, if you try to focus on one, you are always going to compromise on the other. Focusing on the two is usually not a good idea (see the Wii U). There's also the problem of the casual market's unpredictability. If you succeed at grabbing said market, you are going to be showering in gold (ask Nintendo with the original Wii). The problem is, no one quite knows how to grab the casual market. Those who do grab it seem to do it only by fluke.
Microsoft has obviously sacrificed a part of the hardcore market in order to attempt to grab a bigger portion of the casual one. Only time will tell if sacrificing a portion of their hardcore fanbase will be worth it in the end. Personally, I don't think it will be. Xbox 360 was successful precisely because it was associated with the hardcore. To drop that image that your product has only to attempt success at a completely different market is foolish.
CouldBeWorse
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Give me a break. The last Major Nelson thread had to be closed and then restarted with a mod warning attached because it was filled with so much nonsense. Is that explained by a "persecution complex?"
And are you actually advocating that people should come into every Xbone discussion and shit up the thread? That sure sounds like what you're suggesting.
In regards to this topic, the items in the podcast are all unquestionably good things, whether they are minor or not. What additional "realism" needs to brought in here?
yeah, cos that DF article was totally accurate.
Wtf i dont get it, we havent seen shit except for some screens from probably alpha footage.
Are most gaffers so ignorant ?
Edit: was reply to your quote
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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That mad scramble to close the eventually large graphics gap.
good news across the board really...any increase in hardware specs is a win for gamers...not even sure if a 53mhz increase is anything we would even notice when it comes to real world performance...but as long as they don't feel reliability will take a hit then im all for it!
couple of things
- 53 seems like a weird number
- Does somewhat scream desperation to me
couple of things
- 53 seems like a weird number
- I wonder why not just a nice even 50?
- why stop at 53? is that the limit before they have started to see issues? And, if thats the case was it a good idea to push to the "limit?" If not, then why not 75? or even 100?
- why stop at 53? is that the limit before they have started to see issues? And, if thats the case was it a good idea to push to the "limit?" If not, then why not 75? or even 100?
- Does somewhat scream desperation to me
- We've heard all along that "specs dont matter," the cloud gives us such a boost in performance, etc...etc...etc...
yet here we are the FIRST time they seemingly have ANYTHING on the hardware front where they can put a check on their side of the chart as "better" they come out and start talking about it...just seems interesting...totally could be reading between the lines but it seems to me like as has been speculated they dont want to talk specs because they know the Xbone is inferior...but now that they can hang a 53mhz "lead" on GPU clock speed on the wall its cool to talk about specs....hmmm....
yet here we are the FIRST time they seemingly have ANYTHING on the hardware front where they can put a check on their side of the chart as "better" they come out and start talking about it...just seems interesting...totally could be reading between the lines but it seems to me like as has been speculated they dont want to talk specs because they know the Xbone is inferior...but now that they can hang a 53mhz "lead" on GPU clock speed on the wall its cool to talk about specs....hmmm....
Kazuma Kiryu
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Ban bets aren't allowed anymore.
There is gameplay footage of that gif, but maybe i'm not understanding your post correctly.
Anyways, infamous talk has no place in this thread, so i'm gonna stop replying about off-topic stuff.
Nobody? You may have not notice it because you're on the other side of the fence but people are now constantly throwing shit on MS and Nintendo on a daily basis.
I hope you can also remember a recent thread about xbone that has to be restarted because of all the negative discussion that took place when the news was kind of good. And what people are arguing is not even about the news itself but is about Major Nelson.
And now here we are at an Xbone thread again, where Infamous gifs are posted, people not buying the console are concerned about the production of xbones for release and a even a hint of good news about the console is met with negative spinning just so you guys can go to sleep soundly at night.
No, I'm not suggesting anything but thank you for putting words in my mouth. Considering we had 3 THREADS of trolling and shitposting about the PS4's unannounced RAM allocation, forgive me if I'm not gelling with this notion of bias people are perceiving. As for this thread, any upgrade at this point is a step in the right direction for MS but lets not act like people are ready to pounce on the first person who gives bad news eg. Cboat.
Yeah, no doubt. It's just damage control from MS.
It just means that Microsoft knew that they screwed up with both the consumers along with the hardware inside of their console & are now trying to backpedal on almost everything.
Maybe you can do more things in GTA V (we don't really know enough about Second Son to compare them just yet), but its take on the open world genre, what with the superpowers and all, differs greatly from GTA's. It offers something that GTA doesn't have, even if the latter ends up being the better game, but the two of them are still about giving the player freedom. That's what it boils down to.
ConteZero76
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This also means a 100 (well, 106) MHz increase in CPU clock ?
ethomaz
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Xbox One & PS4 are designed to be really quiet & low powered I'm sure they both have room to play with when it come to the clock speed they are far from pushing the limits like the Xbox 360 & PS3 was when they came out & they are GPU's with almost the same specs with clock speeds of 900MHz & 1GHz.
Off Topic: Please piss off with this trolling nonsense. While I certainly don't feel like feeding a troll like yourself, top stop this malarkey, here's the vid link.
i think in complete fairness there is a little bit of the old "can dish it out, but cant take it" going on here...
there was a time when Sony, and the PS3 were being absolutely LAMBASTED for the price point, no games, crappy ports, worthless PSN...etc..you name it Sony couldn't do anything right...
nobody from "the other side of the fence" wanted to hear about "well its $600 but stand alone Blu-ray players cost $900." nobody wanted to hear "the devs need time, the hardware is complicated." Didn't want to here "but the PSN is FREE!"
there was easily as much anti-PS3/Sony crap being flung around back in 2006/2007 as there is now...I think Xbox "fanboys" simply need to take a step back and remember some of the things they have been yapping about for this entire current generation and then deal with the fact that the tables have seemingly turned to Sony's favor with this generation...hopefully it can convince them that there is no point in being a fanboy...
this also holds true for Sony fanboys...they should remember what it was like to CONSTANTLY have to defend their system of choice at every turn
CouldBeWorse
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You honestly don't see that NeoGAF is more or less in line with every single online poll ever about PS4 vs Xbone?
Really?
jordan0386
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All these threads deflect from the possibility of sequel-itis coming our way.
We should be having threads and twitter hashtags for more new and different IPs.
We're headlining a new generation with games that have had 3 or 4 versions in the previous generation.
We should be having threads and twitter hashtags for more new and different IPs.
We're headlining a new generation with games that have had 3 or 4 versions in the previous generation.
GuiltySpark
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From the beanie to the skinny jeans, I just hate it. Hate it so much that is makes the new Dante from DMC look good.
What makes you say Microsoft sacrificed part of the hardcore fan base? I feel like they have successfully appealed to both markets?
Uno Venova
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I feel like this got far away from the original point about a trend of gaf saying good news about xbox one is actually bad news.
Now you are talking about what preferences people have.
Climb down off your cross and cease with the thread whining.
WrenchNinja
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Is this wrong?
gaming_noob
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Most of the people that you perceive to have "persecution complex" ....were they the ones trolling in those 3 threads?
The term should not be thrown around so callously (excuse me if this is not the right word; English as second language, etc). It's a serious mental condition brah.
BruceLeeRoy
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Which is how it should be. Who cares about the bump lets see how the games perform day one on both systems.
Might want to chill a bit bro.
Like I said, they are forcing a lot of hardcore gamers to pay an extra $100 for something that they don't want. They also made the Xbone's specs purposefully inferior in order to be able to pack in Kinect without having an absolutely insane launching price. Those are sacrifices. They are some of the several reasons why we have seen people jumping ship from Microsoft and into the PS4.
Honestly, a 60MHz increase would bring parity between 7850 and liverpool in terms of core clock.
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