Spiritual_Chaos
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Se7en and Zodiaca universes are as far apart from eacother as possible.
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MINDHUNTER |OT| Netflix Original Series - Oct 13
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Seems I'm in the minority in thinking it was pretty mediocre, the acting in particular. A lot of it fell flat for me, just didn't like any of the characters. There was something off with a lot of the conversations, too many times characters were so eager to deliver their lines it just came across as unnatural to me. It's a shame because I think the idea is really interesting and I usually like these dark themes surrounding criminal psychology.
Rumblebones
Banned
I'm 8 episodes in and I've really enjoyed it so far, but Ford is really getting on my nerves as the show goes and it becomes increasingly more clear how
he's essentially very similar to the criminals he is profiling and the theories can be applied to his behaviour.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
He's a fucking nerd, haha. I'm surprised at how funny it is too.
Adam Sadler
Member
haha doesn't this technically do take place in the same universe as Zodiac??
I just finished it, it was so so good
StopMakingSense
Member
I know, right?? lol
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
For those wanting to scratch a Mindhunter itch, Manhunt: Unabomber is also on NetFlix..
StopMakingSense
Member
literally just started watching this like one minute ago.
Chiaroscuro
Member
I am only 3 episodes in and that is my take as well (the the story is about how it was need a patologic mind to start studying patologic minds). Ford personality and behaviour are exactly like his target studies. Like he is obsessed to the point of being awake in the middle of the night ironing clothes, social insecure and have difficulties to understand the opposite sex (he mentions that Debbie is his first girlfriend since high school I believe), and that dialog between him and Debbie about his mother kind of indicate some issues in that relationship as well. The fact that he wanted to edit the FBI deviations word list only to exclude the words his girlfriend uses and his newly adquired sexual behaviours (and not other words that may be perfectly normal in the context of sexual revolution) seems to me an act to validated his issues, like a need to self reafirm that he is normal. Plus the interviews clearly have an impact on him.
Just finished watching the series and I enjoyed it immensely. It certainly isn't structured to be satisfying in the way most shows are built, but while I'm not sure much praise I'm going to give for bucking certain arcs and structures, I do respect it. If anything it's nice to have a series revolve around true blue set pieces of people talking.
The only thing that rang hollow was the FBI centric conflict towards the end. It felt so alien and outlandish which I'm sure was at least partially intentional, but I think the show could've done a better job of placing us in that context.
Regardless, I loved it.
The only thing that rang hollow was the FBI centric conflict towards the end. It felt so alien and outlandish which I'm sure was at least partially intentional, but I think the show could've done a better job of placing us in that context.
Regardless, I loved it.
I watched the first episode yesterday and liked it a lot but some of the acting felt unbelievably bad, especially the first meeting between Holden and Bill --- and wtf was that meet cute? Other than that, really looking forward to watching the rest of the season.
Dandy Lyin
Member
I watched 5 episodes on Sunday, and had dreams about Kemper. Not like, terrifying dreams... Just creepy, with a sense of dread hanging over them.
Rumblebones
Banned
Finished it last night.
Overall I really enjoyed it and will definitely be around for season 2. I hope
On the money.
Overall I really enjoyed it and will definitely be around for season 2. I hope
Bill gets more screen time, he's easily my favourite character in this.
On the money.
Way I see it, in Blade Runner terms, Holden is a Replicant that is slowly but surely coming aware and to terms with the fact he himself is a Replicant through his dawning realisation he is not so far removed from the sociopaths he is conducting interviews on. They're all hunters and he is no different on a fundamental level. To him, the hunt is simply in a different realm. He is, as the title implies, the Mindhunter. This all becomes apparent early on, and I don't think there was any significant intention of delaying that realisation by the audience, the show almost spells it out from the jump, but it is still interesting to look for the cues where they present themselves. I think a rewatch of this first season will be more interesting than usual because of that added objective.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
The ADT guy is totally the
BTK killer right?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Oh my god i can't wait for season 2 now lmao
ResidentWeevil13
Member
Anna Torv is a boss
Only ever saw her in Fringe, but between
and Dr. Wendy Carr, shes impressed me with her range
Also Groffs acting grew on me once I realized I dont necessarily have to like his character.
Only ever saw her in Fringe, but between
the two Olivias
Also Groffs acting grew on me once I realized I dont necessarily have to like his character.
Samurai G0SU
Member
binged watched the first 5 episodes last night! I AM digging it.
Extra Sauce
Member
Four episodes in, I love how the show doesn't have the mandate to depict murders or dead bodies every episode for the sake of providing viewers with cheap thrills. Instead it uses its time to go deep into criminal psychology, its history and complex character work.
And yet there is this mounting tension and dread where you feel like something is horribly wrong.
And yet there is this mounting tension and dread where you feel like something is horribly wrong.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Great show, really picks up by episode 4. Bill's
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Edit: For all of Holden's instincts,
son is freaking me out
Edit: For all of Holden's instincts,
he's really barking up the wrong tree with Dr. Carr.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Finishing up Ep.1
GOD DAMN this is intriguing af
Don't know the real case either.
GOD DAMN this is intriguing af
Don't know the real case either.
Conciliator
Banned
Finished season, some thoughts:
I think the themes are sharp(and, maybe, increasingly relevant) and some of the performances are really good, especially some of the killers and the dude who plays bill.
Bill especially is a great character I think, a 'too old for this shit' fed at first glance, but so much more and very complex imo.
Too bad Manic Hippie Dream Girl doesn't get any real character development, but she seems to mostly exist as a catalyst for some of the power/sexuality/control themes for the main character. She does look great naked, so I guess they got that part right.
Bill especially is a great character I think, a 'too old for this shit' fed at first glance, but so much more and very complex imo.
Too bad Manic Hippie Dream Girl doesn't get any real character development, but she seems to mostly exist as a catalyst for some of the power/sexuality/control themes for the main character. She does look great naked, so I guess they got that part right.
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
Did Holdens girlfriend remind anyone else of Olivia Munn?
EDIT:
And why do people hype the throughline of
BTK
The parallel with the home lives and
Bill managing to open up when his work life intrudes while Holden closes up was really well done.
Later in the season he definitely starts looking more like Dennis.
Must be something with your connection, I got 4K with Dobby Vision without issue.
Mid-episode 2 now, initial impressions:
-First episode was slow as fuck and honestly not too interesting, but decided to keep watching since that was mentioned a lot in this thread. They just dragged it out way too much as if it's all totally new to the viewer. It's not; it's new to the characters on the show, but there's no real reason for them to drag it out for us. I got the point early on. They probably could have trimmed the episode in half and had it be just as impactful.
-Second episode is quite a bit better but there's some issues. The whole girlfriend subplot is just annoying at this point even though I know what the purpose is. The main character is kind of annoying too, just seems too eager and clean-cut for my tastes.
-Dude who plays Ed Kemper is awesome.
-First episode was slow as fuck and honestly not too interesting, but decided to keep watching since that was mentioned a lot in this thread. They just dragged it out way too much as if it's all totally new to the viewer. It's not; it's new to the characters on the show, but there's no real reason for them to drag it out for us. I got the point early on. They probably could have trimmed the episode in half and had it be just as impactful.
-Second episode is quite a bit better but there's some issues. The whole girlfriend subplot is just annoying at this point even though I know what the purpose is. The main character is kind of annoying too, just seems too eager and clean-cut for my tastes.
-Dude who plays Ed Kemper is awesome.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
As of episode 8, I've realized Holden is kind of a dick
jack_package_200
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NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
The BTK killer
He was a self-righteous asshole right from the beginning.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
This is true, but as of episode 9, he's just a full blown sanctimonious shit.
The stuff with Roger Wade was fucked. Totally destroyed that dude's life.
UrbanDandy
Member
I watched episodes 1-4 Sunday, and 5-10 last night. It was really good. The visuals, the sounds - those were on point. The characters?
Holt's character Bill was phenomenal. He played the hard-edged older partner but was still relatable.
Anna's Dr. Carr was not only a woman trying to make it in a male-dominated agency, but with
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ALL THE SERIAL KILLERS were awesome. They played their creepy factors to the max.
Obviously, the last character Groff's Holden. I didn't know what to make of him.
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Holt's character Bill was phenomenal. He played the hard-edged older partner but was still relatable.
Anna's Dr. Carr was not only a woman trying to make it in a male-dominated agency, but with
her character's secret of being a lesbian, really made of a balance
ALL THE SERIAL KILLERS were awesome. They played their creepy factors to the max.
Obviously, the last character Groff's Holden. I didn't know what to make of him.
Sure, he had the ambition, but he was kind of robotic until he interviewed Speck. Then he got full of himself until he showed the emotion of being psychologically damaged by Kemper
There's a lot of dualities playing off of each other in the series, one I liked was that
Wendy's conversation with her GF foreshadows that Holden's GF is going to have to pick him or her studies because she's in the exact same position Wendy is where being associated with an FBI agent would hurt her career in Academia.
metalslimer
Member
While obviously that case didn't require FBI interference, it's hard to feel bad for a guy who literally wouldn't stop touching children no matter how many people asked him too. He was asking to be fired. I feel worse for his family. Even if he wasn't a predator you stop fucking touching kids if the parent asks you to.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Holden might be a good profiler, but he's a terrible law enforcement agent.
That's true, you have a point, but it's still messed up.
That's true, you have a point, but it's still messed up.