I use a 2015 11 inch MacBook Air for work, to me it's my favorite laptop I've ever used. I have a 15 inch and 13 inch MacBook Pro for home but it's just not the same. If the damn thing gets a retina screen finally I'm jumping on board. Though now the thought of the new keyboard entered my mind and I'm sad....
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Bloomberg: Apple to announce updated Macbooks at WWDC
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Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
This product is an example of how someone might make what you want. It's better than Apple sticking with the Magsafe. USB C everywhere, please.
https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable
Jack Scofield
Member
Dumb question, but didn't they just barely update their MacBooks last year (with the touch bar)? I thought it was like five years since they last updated their MacBooks, but now they're updating them again within a year?
This is the norm or close to it.
FreshCakes
Banned
Darn... and I just got a 13 inch with a touch bar last month
Sapiens
Member
It will be a spec bump. The Retina MPB came out in 2012 and it was spec bumps for four years. Same will hold true for the current garbage touchbar MBP
Greatest Ever
Member
I would have gotten a MacBook Air if not for that asstacular screen.
My 2011 MacBook Pro's AMD graphics went kaput on Tuesday, four and a half months after Apple wrapped up extended warranty for the issue. I should've pushed it harder so that it'd have failed within the warranty period. Now it's listed as an obsolete product so it's practically done for. Shame it was still running pretty damn fine.
Good timing on this, at least. I hope they up the storage and RAM options on the updated models because it's currently craptacular, but I'm not holding my breath.
Good timing on this, at least. I hope they up the storage and RAM options on the updated models because it's currently craptacular, but I'm not holding my breath.
Not substantially. Same basic architecture with minor refinements that allow slightly higher clock speeds. Wouldn't expect more than 10-15% gain.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Up until a few years ago, Macs were almost always "available now," and the online store would come back up with stock, and stores would have a few models for purchase.
More recently though, there's been a slight, few week lag from reveal to availability.
BTO models are gonna take some time, regardless.
Alright. Thanks. I guess I'll get the current model MacBook then, feels kind of bad though :/
those updates will probably be in the Fall.
infiniteloop
Member
if it's a spec bump, probably same week.
LordOfChaos
Member
Gurman also said a form fitting battery had been in the works for the current model, but didn't pass tests in time, so they went with an older design. Wonder if that battery will make it to this one, there's a fair amount of unused space right now (airflow would have to be channeled in different ways I guess)
badcrumble
Member
This would be an especially strong case of "don't buy the first version of a new Mac design" if true.Gurman also said a form fitting battery had been in the works for the current model, but didn't pass tests in time, so they went with an older design. Wonder if that battery will make it to this one, there's a fair amount of unused space right now (airflow would have to be channeled in different ways I guess)
If Apple fixes all the issues with the MBP that'd be great.
If so definitely selling this touchbar 2016 pro
That doesn't makes sense, that would make the new one better.
What are the outstanding issues with the current MBP?
LordOfChaos
Member
What's light usage in your definition? With nothing but Safari open and a number of tabs of browsing going on (15? 20 maybe? I could do far worse, but trying to be conservative for battery use), 6.5 hours is a good day to me. I could only see getting 10 hours in a single tab (or nearly so) time, but that's hard for me to deal with these days with all the compute power enabling never waiting for a tab, just flip to the next one. Only extension is a content blocker API adblock, which should be a benefit to battery life.
That's what I think the problem with web browsing tests on most websites and Apples own testing is, it's a simple dumb script that loads a page, emulates reading for a number of seconds, and then repeats. Most users who are more than the most casual will change tabs the second they're waiting on one.
Edit: Nice coincidence actually, Gruber just posted some battery life tests, and his method was exactly what I described as not replicating a user but still had under 10 hours
https://daringfireball.net/2017/05/safari_vs_chrome_on_the_mac
badcrumble
Member
battery life is so-so, keyboard's a straight up downgrade, touchbar doesn't offer enough value to offset what it took away (though I think that's fixable in software if Apple puts more thought into it based on real-world usage - see also watchOS 3)
My light usage is usually somewhere between 4-8 Safari tabs open, LINE, Tweetbot, Messages, Mail, and sometimes iTunes open. My screen is at 60% brightness right now. I also use Caffeine to prevent display sleep. Here's what Activity Monitor shows right now, with everything I just described:
This is a 15", 2.7GHz, 1TB, Radeon Pro 460 model.
badcrumble
Member
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
So my sister bought a 12" Macbook as she needed one for work.
I told her to try to wait it out another month but she needed it right away.
For her sake I'm hoping the new model doesn't get a significant boost and/or price drop.
I told her to try to wait it out another month but she needed it right away.
For her sake I'm hoping the new model doesn't get a significant boost and/or price drop.
michaelius
Banned
This is how it should be - new cpu is released they update macbooks. And Kaby Lake is important because it has updated hardware decoders for 4k streaming.
Zombie James
Banned
Apple is about on par for a MBP update, but they're far, far behind on pretty much everything else:
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Zombie James
Banned
It's not hard. They just don't want to do it.
Their messaging last fall was very clear: the 13" non-Touch Bar Pro is the new 13" Air.
I want to upgrade from my late 2013 13 rMBP to a 15 inch variant but need some incentives:
A better dGPU
Longer battery life
A non touch bar highest spec option
2 tb ssd
32 gigs of ram or something over 16 gigs
Better speakers
How far away are we from wireless charging integrated into notebooks/ultrabooks?
A better dGPU
Longer battery life
A non touch bar highest spec option
2 tb ssd
32 gigs of ram or something over 16 gigs
Better speakers
How far away are we from wireless charging integrated into notebooks/ultrabooks?
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
That's more or less the intention of the 13" Macbook Pro sans Touch Bar.
faceless007
Member
But $500 more expensive.
Like do they really not see why the Air was such a great value proposition this whole time?
Yea, but I just really dislike how they refuse to update the MacBook Air Screen tbh. I had a friend who was considering buying a MBA for his younger brother, but then I told him about the resolution, showed him the difference, etc. and he was surprised.
Even a 1080p screen would be fine.
My assumption has been, and continues to be, that the long-term plan is for the 12" MacBook to drop to $999 and the 13" Pro to hit $1299, which would put them more in line with original 11" and 13" Air pricing.
I think Apple knows people buy the Air for the budget proposition, which is the single reason it's still for sale.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Is her MacBook going to stop working or something? I don't understand this crabs in a bucket attitude.
I think this post is right. A MacBook price drop is a strong possibility. Kill the Air, drop the MacBook's price. Lineup looks good again. Unless Apple is positioning the iPad Pro as the new MacBook Air, which, if iOS 11 turns out great, I can see.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Not gonna happen. If anything in time ALL MacBooks will have the touch bar. And MagSafe isn't coming back. It's dead. Unless Apple releases a hybrid charging cable that has it. Which they won't.
The only reason the low end touchbar-less MBP is around is to keep something in the low price range area until the technology is matured enough to go all out. Same reason a low end shitty iMac used to exist while waiting for Retina screens of that size to become cheaper.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
If I'm going to spend $1600 on a computer and I know a better product is coming along for the same price a mere weeks later, I personally would just wait it out for that better product, especially since this is something I'd ideally be owning for a number of years.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
She could have done that, then. I never understood hoping for a worse future product for the rest of the world. If she needed it right away, well, rough luck. Return it in 15 days.