Angelus Errare
Banned
Well fuck.
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CrashPlan ends consumer/home backup service
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Marty Chinn
Member
Okay, that doesn't somehow negate the necessity to backup offsite. Plus, these services do it all for you in the background automatically. If you just let it do it's thing, you'll be backed up without any effort on your part. I guess that's somehow a pain to do nothing...
I got a free Backblaze service and I was thinking of upgrading to a better service but I guess I may be stuck now...
"I don't need to wear a seatbelt I'm a good driver."
I mean I guess I understand if you don't do any work on a computer nor have any personal images nor have a collection of files you care about etc...
"I don't need to wear a seatbelt I'm a good driver."
I mean I guess I understand if you don't do any work on a computer nor have any personal images nor have a collection of files you care about etc...
radios shipping overview
Member
Sure, it'll finish six months from now, and meanwhile I'm paying for offsite storage for something that's not related to any kind of business income.
LostCaress
Member
Damnit, I spent last month backing up about 5 tb of data :\ Well at least I'm covered until July 2018, I'll think about something then.
Their software is garbage.
Glad I ditched them.
Veam is good for local backups. For cloud you can use Dropbox/Onedrive to keep it simple. If you want more serious cloud backups, there are plenty of programs out there. Duplicati is free and allows you to backup to many locations, rsync is popular but not very friendly, Backblaze is simple but isn't free etc.
Marty Chinn
Member
It's not about business though; it's about proper backup of data. If you can deal with losing 10TB of data, more power to you, but it's a marginal cost that gives you unlimited backup storage that handles it all in the background. While it's backing up, you're still getting use out of it because those files it has transferred will have been backed up. Also there are places that will let you do a hard drive dump to kick start the backup rather than having to upload everything.
Ya, I think we need to be clear here. CrashPlan isn't going away. They're just merging everything under one service which costs more. If you've got several TB of data that you're hesitant to move, you can still use CrashPlan as long as you are willing to pay the higher rate.
its funny for me to see VEEAM in this space. VEEAM backup and replication for enterprises is THE shit, some of the best backup software i've ever used. They also make the best product to monitor hyperV and VMware that integrates with MS monitoring software. I recommend them to every client I go to, didnt even know they had consumer stuff.
uhh if they wont migrate my full data im going to demand a full refund.
LostCaress
Member
Wait, so they gave me 60 extra days and 75% discount for the business plan... O guess that makes it cheaper to back up until about 2020
metsallica
Member
What's the price difference between home and small business?
Marty Chinn
Member
Ya, that seems strange to me that they just won't migrate everyone's data over completely and have to cap it off and force people to reupload.
Home was anywhere from $4 to $6 a month depending on what duration you subscribed for. Business looks like it's $10 a month.
Marty Chinn
Member
I feel like they should have just said they were consolidating their services to make it more robust and as a result, you'll get more out of it but there is a slight price increase. Had they went this route, I think it would have been smoother and less people thinking that CrashPlan is gone.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Oh great. I was like their biggest supporter. I just renewed my yearly subscription a few months ago so I assume they'll let me keep my account until it ends. I still have 10.5 months. Though I believe I can cancel it and get a refund of the remaining time. From what I'm told.
But why?
First 1Password switches to a subscription (Which I so far haven't had affect me yet. When are they switching over? I still cant get a straight answer or monthly price.) and now this? Bah. They're suggesting Carbonite, which when I checked was a bit more pricey. Ugh I don't want to do all that research again. Unless the Small Business plan is affordable enough and not like twice the price or something.
I mean I really feel I should have an off site backup. Even with my local backups, I feel if I cancel and get rid of my only cloud based solution, my house will decide to burn down right then and there. That's how it works, right?
But why?
First 1Password switches to a subscription (Which I so far haven't had affect me yet. When are they switching over? I still cant get a straight answer or monthly price.) and now this? Bah. They're suggesting Carbonite, which when I checked was a bit more pricey. Ugh I don't want to do all that research again. Unless the Small Business plan is affordable enough and not like twice the price or something.
I mean I really feel I should have an off site backup. Even with my local backups, I feel if I cancel and get rid of my only cloud based solution, my house will decide to burn down right then and there. That's how it works, right?
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I sure as shit ain't switching to Small Business. $10 a month per computer? Guess my dad, sister and brother will have to find their own solution and pay their own fees from now on. Well, from 10.5 months from now on. Or possibly less.
Marty Chinn
Member
captive, you're not going to like this:
I'd complain that they should do everything possible to migrate the data for you.
I'd complain that they should do everything possible to migrate the data for you.
j0hnny_385
Member
I only use their client/service for offline backup (got a home file server).
Any good, reliable, alternatives? Offline, local backup?
Any good, reliable, alternatives? Offline, local backup?
I may just switch to business then....does it support multiple computers. I'm fine with $10 a month if so.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Does Backblaze create hidden folders everywhere? I remember before settling onCrashplan, one of their competitors created all of these hidden folders everywhere and it drove me away.
It does, but it's $10 per computer.
I just switched over, it's painless unless you have > 5TB data or are running form non-standard platforms.
Barkley's Justice
Member
I'm on the CrashPlan family plan. Upgrading to Business at $10/device per month isn't going to work for me.
Marty Chinn
Member
If you have a NAS, one thing you can do is centralize your backups to the NAS, and then just use CrashPlan to back up the NAS.
Rukes
The front page still gets no respect
It's not that bad if you have only one computer. Going from Home to Business, it's $2.50 a month from March 2018, l then $10 a month from March 2019. $120 a year is still pretty cheap for unlimited storage.
I'm guessing the Home deal was just way too good to be true and they realized that the amount of data they had to host with the cost was pretty unsustainable.
The Carbonate Core they are offering is really horrible though. $135 for 250GB on multiple computers and $80 each extra $100 GB.
I'm guessing the Home deal was just way too good to be true and they realized that the amount of data they had to host with the cost was pretty unsustainable.
The Carbonate Core they are offering is really horrible though. $135 for 250GB on multiple computers and $80 each extra $100 GB.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
No biggie. They kind of sucked anyway.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
This doesn't help me at all since all the computers I backup are scattered all over. My siblings are in different states. I guess now they're on their own.
Barkley's Justice
Member
CrashPlan had a service that mailed you a hard drive, you loaded everything up (encrypted, of course) and then mail it back to them and they slot it right into your account. That's how I did my initial backup way back when. Not sure if they still offer that for business or if any of their competitors provide something similar.
Backblaze offers it for data retrieval but I am not seeing it for the initial backup. It is even free, you just have to pay a deposit on the hard drive.
IDrive offers this
mrproducto
Neo Member
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Oh, Backblaze is unlimited too?
For some reason I thought it wasn't. Price seems fine and seems to do the same thing. Hopefully with better software.
Anyway, with the extended sub time and then 75% off the business plan for a year I'll just not worry and make the switch in about 2 years from now.
For some reason I thought it wasn't. Price seems fine and seems to do the same thing. Hopefully with better software.
Anyway, with the extended sub time and then 75% off the business plan for a year I'll just not worry and make the switch in about 2 years from now.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
This sucks. I use these guys.
Marty Chinn
Member
BackBlaze is unlimited for a Windows or Mac computer. It's not unlimited if you want to back up a NAS.
LostCaress
Member
Is the business version supposed to be faster? With the home plan I was uploading at maximum 1mb/s, now I am doing 10mb/s
yea sounds like im going to be calling. I signed up for a 5 year plan less than 3 years ago. My "initial" backup took over a year and it literally just finished a month ago.
furthermore this is the most ridiculous thing. I work in data centers. The fact that the data has to be "migrated" is absurd in the first place. If they need to migrate it, they should be able to do that without me even knowing it was moved. Secondly, 5TB seems super arbitrary. There's no reason why they can't "migrate" my full 14tb.
what about a windows server that acts as a NAS
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Seriously. They're bullshitting you. This should totally be seamless and behind the scenes.
So what's the verdict ? Backblaze or Crashplan Pro ? Is one software better ?
And one thing I skimmed over is that Crashplan Pro doesn't support computer to computer backup, does it mean that the solution is cloud based only and I won't be able to have an automatic backup on the computer anymore ?
And one thing I skimmed over is that Crashplan Pro doesn't support computer to computer backup, does it mean that the solution is cloud based only and I won't be able to have an automatic backup on the computer anymore ?
You backup your computer to a USB stick every hour and ship them to an external location so they're always protected from damage and/or theft? Seems like a lot of work. I'll pay the $5 for a cloud backup.
ZackieChan
Member
It's awful
The_Super_Inframan
"the journey to a thousand games ends with bad rats. ~Lao Tzu" ~Gabe Newell
What if the NAS drives are attached to act as normal drives in Windows (attached network hdd)? ...
I mean that's not really different to an external USB device / drive
The Albatross
Member
Would something like Amazon Glacier make sense for a lot of you? Or, the Amazon 'tape-like' service that they do (they send you an HDD, you put your stuff on it, send it back, they transfer it up)?
I store old client archives on glacier, though it's not a lot to store (~30gb), it's just that I never expect to need these backups though I just have them in case some day I ever do. For storage for me it's less than $0.10/month (about a $1/year). If I needed to retrieve a lot of it it would cost more, but typically I'm not retrieving more than 1-2 GB of data so it wouldn't cost much (probably $0.05 or $0.10) for me, and I'd turn that around and expense my client on it anyway.
If you need access to TBs of data on demand then Glacier is not the service for you (either on price or availability), it's more or less used (by me) as long-term catastrophic failure insurance.
I store old client archives on glacier, though it's not a lot to store (~30gb), it's just that I never expect to need these backups though I just have them in case some day I ever do. For storage for me it's less than $0.10/month (about a $1/year). If I needed to retrieve a lot of it it would cost more, but typically I'm not retrieving more than 1-2 GB of data so it wouldn't cost much (probably $0.05 or $0.10) for me, and I'd turn that around and expense my client on it anyway.
If you need access to TBs of data on demand then Glacier is not the service for you (either on price or availability), it's more or less used (by me) as long-term catastrophic failure insurance.
You can still do a local backup to USB/HDD, the feature that allowed you to backup to a friends house has been cut.
Yes, it works, but not with the simplest version of a mounted network drive. You have to ensure that the drive is mounted in a way that makes it appear like a local drive in the OS. You can do this by using iSCSI if it is supported by your NAS. Alternatively, you can use a third-party program like StableBit CloudDrive (not free) which uses a kernel driver to create a virtual drive, which you can use to mount network shares.