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TJP
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https://www.studio-397.com/2017/07/roadmap-update-july-2017/
We have some even more exciting news: its no secret that we are releasing a McLaren GT car. And now, we are pleased to announce that it will be .drum roll please the awesome McLaren 650s GT3!
Many of you saw our rendition of Zandvoort at the Max Verstappen days. Since then, we have optimised and further enhanced the track. Like the McLaren above, Zandvoort will be used in the Worlds Fastest Gamer competition and will be released as a free addition
DX 11:
Ever since the beginning of the year, weve showed you the evolution of our DX11 graphics engine. Right now, were close to the point where we are happy enough with the visuals and performance of this engine to soon switch it to become the default.
UI:
Physics:
One of the things we have been working on over the last few months is our tyre model. You may have noticed some changes in the latest version of the Radical, and you will also see them in the upcoming McLaren. These updates reflect our work on improving accurate tyre fidelity. We have a number of tyre updates underway, making one of the best tyre models in consumer racing simulation even better.
More at link...
We have some even more exciting news: its no secret that we are releasing a McLaren GT car. And now, we are pleased to announce that it will be .drum roll please the awesome McLaren 650s GT3!
Many of you saw our rendition of Zandvoort at the Max Verstappen days. Since then, we have optimised and further enhanced the track. Like the McLaren above, Zandvoort will be used in the Worlds Fastest Gamer competition and will be released as a free addition
DX 11:
Ever since the beginning of the year, weve showed you the evolution of our DX11 graphics engine. Right now, were close to the point where we are happy enough with the visuals and performance of this engine to soon switch it to become the default.
UI:
Physics:
One of the things we have been working on over the last few months is our tyre model. You may have noticed some changes in the latest version of the Radical, and you will also see them in the upcoming McLaren. These updates reflect our work on improving accurate tyre fidelity. We have a number of tyre updates underway, making one of the best tyre models in consumer racing simulation even better.
More at link...
Thanks, I might need to look into this (never done it before). Copying the old 458 GT2 sfx folder from my laptop didn't work for some reason. I had no sound except for kerbs and gravel.
Patrick S.
Banned
Right click on the game in your Steam library, then select local files, and do "verify local files", and it will redownload only the files with mismatching checksums, i.e. the files you replaced.
Haven't raced in a while but had a good one at Mugello just now. Still don't have a wheel sadly, but my pace seemed okay. Props to the guy I was racing with (from where the onboard is), he was very fair and you can see he didn't do anything stupid to me, which I always appreciate a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FrwTgqWr2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FrwTgqWr2c
TJP
Member
Video..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gPJBYFmYgQQ
New R3E physics guy is a driving instructor and races a GT3 spec 911.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gPJBYFmYgQQ
New R3E physics guy is a driving instructor and races a GT3 spec 911.
I'm thinking of trying iRacing, but I have a couple questions.
Is the game playable with a controller? I don't really want to invest in a wheel right now.
I'm most interested in oval/stock car/NASCAR racing. I was watching a NASCAR race at Martinsville a while ago and the guy driving was talking to someone who was acting as a spotter and crew chief. Do you have to have a partner to do that stuff for you?
Is the game playable with a controller? I don't really want to invest in a wheel right now.
I'm most interested in oval/stock car/NASCAR racing. I was watching a NASCAR race at Martinsville a while ago and the guy driving was talking to someone who was acting as a spotter and crew chief. Do you have to have a partner to do that stuff for you?
Teknopathetic
Member
"I'm thinking of trying iRacing, but I have a couple questions.
Is the game playable with a controller? I don't really want to invest in a wheel right now.
I'm most interested in oval/stock car/NASCAR racing. I was watching a NASCAR race at Martinsville a while ago and the guy driving was talking to someone who was acting as a spotter and crew chief. Do you have to have a partner to do that stuff for you?"
Playing with a controller would probably be very, very challenging. I wouldn't call it impossible. Making small corrections, especially those necessary in Oval racing would probably require some practice, but I haven't tried it and I'd hate to scare you off. Give it a shot!
iRacing has a built in spotter that notifies you of cars on your sides, your fuel level, your position, wrecks ahead of you, whether you're lapping someone or they're lapping you, etc.
Is the game playable with a controller? I don't really want to invest in a wheel right now.
I'm most interested in oval/stock car/NASCAR racing. I was watching a NASCAR race at Martinsville a while ago and the guy driving was talking to someone who was acting as a spotter and crew chief. Do you have to have a partner to do that stuff for you?"
Playing with a controller would probably be very, very challenging. I wouldn't call it impossible. Making small corrections, especially those necessary in Oval racing would probably require some practice, but I haven't tried it and I'd hate to scare you off. Give it a shot!
iRacing has a built in spotter that notifies you of cars on your sides, your fuel level, your position, wrecks ahead of you, whether you're lapping someone or they're lapping you, etc.
I'll add to Teknopathetic's response.
Once you try iRacing with a controller you'll go out and buy a wheel. You just will.
I tried iRacing with a controller briefly a few months ago and thought the handling felt less demanding than Assetto Corsa, I actually thought it was pretty easy and I was a little disappointed. Think it was a Ford GTE at Laguna Seca.
I'll be interested to try it again with a wheel.
I'll be interested to try it again with a wheel.
Teknopathetic
Member
"I tried iRacing with a controller briefly a few months ago and thought the handling felt less demanding than Assetto Corsa, I actually thought it was pretty easy and I was a little disappointed. Think it was a Ford GTE at Laguna Seca.
I'll be interested to try it again with a wheel."
For road racing, a controller is manageable. For oval, when you're 2 wide on the inside going around a corner and your tires are shot, you have to make lots of corrections to keep from pushing into the driver right next to you, causing a massive chain clusterfuck. Pads aren't great for that.
I'll be interested to try it again with a wheel."
For road racing, a controller is manageable. For oval, when you're 2 wide on the inside going around a corner and your tires are shot, you have to make lots of corrections to keep from pushing into the driver right next to you, causing a massive chain clusterfuck. Pads aren't great for that.
Teknopathetic
Member
It's also worth noting that the GTE cars are pretty "easy" to drive. They're not particularly unruly.
Try the Lotus 49 on Mount Panorama.
Try the Lotus 49 on Mount Panorama.
TJP
Member
It is not a hot hatch but a BTCC Nissan: http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/1999-nissan-primera-btcc.3828/
st1nk nuts
Member
I posted this in the rift thread, but figure I might get more responses in here.
I picked up a rift specifically for iRacing. So far I've tried iRacing and PCars, both games after a lap or so I feel pretty ill. Is this normal? Do I need to just ease myself into it? Kinda sick because it is quite the experience.
I picked up a rift specifically for iRacing. So far I've tried iRacing and PCars, both games after a lap or so I feel pretty ill. Is this normal? Do I need to just ease myself into it? Kinda sick because it is quite the experience.
Dave_6
Member
I've had my Rift for nearly two weeks now and I still get some mild nausea depending on what type of track (lots of turns and elevation still get me). I did a 60 lap race at Michigan in the Indy Cars last night and it never bothered me though.
Edit: Definitely ease your way in. I could barely handle a couple mins the first day. Then did maybe one hour total the next day. Took me nearly a week before I could do an extended session on just an oval.
Edit: Definitely ease your way in. I could barely handle a couple mins the first day. Then did maybe one hour total the next day. Took me nearly a week before I could do an extended session on just an oval.
Thankfully I feel totally fine while using my Rift. The way the camera moves on its own in replays in Assetto Corsa feels a bit weird but other than that there's no discomfort at all for me. The replays are amazing though so I still watch them anyway but it does mess with my head a bit.
The only thing I don't like right now is that picking up brake lights from the cars ahead of me is damn hard in AC, I practically have to be bumper to bumper to see them. Even with that issue the Rift is great fun. I forget I'm even in VR after a few laps, that's how immersive it is. If you mostly just like doing AI races and you're not super competitive (I'm average at best) the Oculus Rift is really really impressive. The elevation changes alone while in VR blow my mind. That reminds me, I haven't tried Laguna Seca in R3E in VR yet. I'm excited just thinking about it right now.
The only thing I don't like right now is that picking up brake lights from the cars ahead of me is damn hard in AC, I practically have to be bumper to bumper to see them. Even with that issue the Rift is great fun. I forget I'm even in VR after a few laps, that's how immersive it is. If you mostly just like doing AI races and you're not super competitive (I'm average at best) the Oculus Rift is really really impressive. The elevation changes alone while in VR blow my mind. That reminds me, I haven't tried Laguna Seca in R3E in VR yet. I'm excited just thinking about it right now.
There's an ini file you can edit to get better glow from the brake lights in AC to make them more visible. I coincidentally happened upon this info yesterday by accident while searching for something else and don't have it to hand right now, but I'm sure Google would find it for you?
I didn't think of that. I'll check it out before I play the next time. I just assumed it was because the Rift is a bit low res.
edit: I also turned off post processing before even playing AC with the Rift, maybe that's part of it too. I figured it'd guarantee 90 FPS (it did!) and turning it off entirely rather than just turning things down one by one was by far the quickest/laziest way lol.
2nd edit: Yeah turning on post processing alone did the trick. I don't think I'm consistently hitting 90 FPS with it on but it still seems playable.
Small tip: since Assetto Corsa doesn't show the menus while in VR just use the Big Screen beta in the Oculus store and view your desktop through that. Saves you from having to take the headset on and off all the time.
Posted this in the Rift thread, but you guys might know best:
Finally got my Rift today by roundabout methods for £328. I'll have to wait for the Touch controllers which have the second sensor so my first question is: will this work fine seated in a racing cockpit with just the one sensor? I've bought it mainly for sim racing so am not too bothered about the wait for the controllers, but I'm champing at the bit to get stuck into some VR Assetto Corsa, Project CARS and RaceRoom.
Finally got my Rift today by roundabout methods for £328. I'll have to wait for the Touch controllers which have the second sensor so my first question is: will this work fine seated in a racing cockpit with just the one sensor? I've bought it mainly for sim racing so am not too bothered about the wait for the controllers, but I'm champing at the bit to get stuck into some VR Assetto Corsa, Project CARS and RaceRoom.
Teknopathetic
Member
Yes, you only need one sensor for sim racing. The headset itself has sensors in the back, so even if you felt compelled to turn around and look 180 degrees behind you, it'll still track, no problem.
Just what I wanted to hear - ta very muchly. Any tips on mounting position?
This is basically my current setup:
Maybe behind the tablets on top of the screen, facing downwards? Mounting points could easily be fudged there.
Teknopathetic
Member
Either behind the tablets on the screen or perhaps on that set of drawers on the left?
Ah, great. I thought front & centre would be objectively 'better' but it sounds like it doesn't really matter. I'll probably just place it on the amp on the RHS of the cockpit then.
Gonna have fun groping around in the dark for the keypad I just fitted...
Bit the bullet on a G29 + Shifter for £140. Seemed like a better deal than what I could've gotten last week, so thought, fuck it. Should arrive on either tomorrow or on Thursday. I hope it's good.
Anything I should be super aware of/any tips to get comfortable? I'm imagining this is going to be quite a learning curve consider I've never driven anything with a wheel, IRL or otherwise. D:
Anything I should be super aware of/any tips to get comfortable? I'm imagining this is going to be quite a learning curve consider I've never driven anything with a wheel, IRL or otherwise. D:
TylerDurden4321
Member
It's hard to tell without knowing how much you already know about cars, grip, tracks, etiquette etc.
Probably a good tip in general is that at first you should try to have fun and not focus on being fast or being able to drift like some guys on youtube.
Don't look at the wheel as a tool to be more competitive but a toy to enjoy driving sims more.
My last tip - and I'm sure many people here will disagree with me - is that rally games and historic open wheelers are really good at making you understand what FFB is and what the forces on the wheel are supposed to tell you. Not meaning this as a "good beginner car/tracl combo to get faster", just as a "get the idea behind FFB quickly" thing.
Betta Lines
Member
I think FFB is largely a distraction if you're learning how to use a steering wheel and pedals for the first time. But it's probably not a good idea to disable it fully either. I'd set the main FFB strength in the Logitech drivers pretty low to begin with, maybe 30%. Make sure the steering lock is set to 900.
I'd not bother with the shifter/clutch immediately. If you've never driven IRL, that's probably an overwhelming number of things to coordinate.
Easiest way to start is to use a sim with a decent calibration wizard, e.g. iRacing or Assetto Corsa, to ensure that you're driving with the correct steering lock (it will automatically be set appropriately for each car). Stick a few assists on - auto clutch, auto shift, ABS, TC. Run some laps on a simple, short track so you can quickly repeat the same braking zones and corners.
Next step would be to start shifting with the paddles (with auto clutch) and use a car with no ABS or TC - this will quickly teach you how to modulate the brake and throttle pedals. It helps to use an open wheel car when you're learning threshold braking, because you can see when your fronts are locking. (If you leave ABS and TC on, you can basically treat the pedals as on/off switches, which is a fun way to start, but ultimately very bad practice!)
I have stolen the HDMI port I usually use for my 2nd monitor (main monitor uses display port) and I have half my USB devices unplugged to make room for the Rift. Damn you VR!
https://www.facebook.com/ReizaStudi...205460.219924822742/10155621267997743/?type=3
If I have to guess, I think that the new circuit will be the Circuito dos Cristais, the newest circuit in Brazil.
scorcher59
Member
Man AMS is just the gift that keeps on giving, the series that currently is making me lose several hours is Formula V10... GAT DAM! so much fun!
Too bad the online public racing experience is poor to say the least. Last weekend I couldn't enter one single server because of tracks mismatches.
But rfactor2 is even worse in that regard. You are either in some league and know exactly what mods to use, or forget about it. Even the built-in content manager is incompetent to download the missing packages (failed, failed, failed).
so, for casual public racing whenever you feel like it, nothing beats AC, R3E and ProjectCars if you can tolerate their bugged online code.
Teknopathetic
Member
"so, for casual public racing whenever you feel like it, nothing beats AC, R3E and ProjectCars if you can tolerate their bugged online code."
Nothing beats iRacing for casual public racing whenever you feel like it. Skill-based matchmaking, semi-effective safety system to at least try to encourage clean racing, and probably the largest consistent online playerbase that I've seen (on PC) though it's car dependent. MX5, Skippies, and IMSA consistently have at least 2-3 splits 24/7 every race.
Nothing beats iRacing for casual public racing whenever you feel like it. Skill-based matchmaking, semi-effective safety system to at least try to encourage clean racing, and probably the largest consistent online playerbase that I've seen (on PC) though it's car dependent. MX5, Skippies, and IMSA consistently have at least 2-3 splits 24/7 every race.
forgot about that one. Its not on my radar.
Teknopathetic
Member
"forgot about that one. Its not on my radar."
If you're into public racing it really is night and day comparing iRacing and everything else. Yes, it's relatively expensive and I'll never argue that it's not, but it's inarguably a far more robust multiplayer racing experience than everything else.
If you're into public racing it really is night and day comparing iRacing and everything else. Yes, it's relatively expensive and I'll never argue that it's not, but it's inarguably a far more robust multiplayer racing experience than everything else.
Enjoying Dirt 4 in both (sim and gamer handling) but thinking I might pick up Dirt Rally just because it's low enough in price at the moment and it will have different tracks and cars. Crazy how much I'm enjoying Rally racing. Still like normal track racing but this is a welcome change. That and the progression system is closest I've found to what I'm looking for in a racing game after enjoying GT6 so much. I just honestly really like having to earn cars or enough money to buy them in games.
I didn't get to deep into Rally when I tried it out before but is there a female co-driver voice in the game? If not any mods that add one or plans to add one? Or is it best to just stick with Dirt 4 since that is an option there?
Really prefer that option to be honest if I'm going to be hearing another person talking to me constantly.
I didn't get to deep into Rally when I tried it out before but is there a female co-driver voice in the game? If not any mods that add one or plans to add one? Or is it best to just stick with Dirt 4 since that is an option there?
Really prefer that option to be honest if I'm going to be hearing another person talking to me constantly.
Dirt 4 deserves much more love than it gets. And, no, there's no female co-driver in Dirt Rally. But it's not Nicky Grist either. It's Paul Coleman's voice.
scorcher59
Member
I gave up on casual online racing a while ago always offline AI racing for me. Still haven't subbed to iRacing though
Question for VR cockpit sim racers: have you tried locking your view to the horizon to counter motion sickness?
This article strongly recommends it
I should finally have my Rift up and running this evening so have been reading up on motion sickness today, just in case.
This article strongly recommends it
I should finally have my Rift up and running this evening so have been reading up on motion sickness today, just in case.
Dave_6
Member
I use Real Head Motion with AC: https://www.riftracer.co.uk/guides/assetto-corsa-oculus-rift-setup/
I currently use default settings with the other sims (iRacing, R3E, rFactor 2) and it doesn't bother me anymore.
I currently use default settings with the other sims (iRacing, R3E, rFactor 2) and it doesn't bother me anymore.
That's great - thanks for posting.
Does anyone have any other 'wish I'd known that' set-up tips for a sim racing VR noob?
Specifically Project CARS and R3E for now?
Betta Lines
Member
Their follow-up article covers the more important stuff I think.
Locking to horizon might help some with sickness, but for me, it just doesn't make a lot of sense when sitting in front of a set of fixed controls. The cockpit is moving about relative to what you're holding on to, which affects hand/body presence. In my experience, a locked horizon slightly increases the possibility of nausea due to this odd mismatch, and it makes the car slightly harder to control.
But as they say, using a stiff race car on a smooth, flat track, the difference between the two is subtle, so if you're suffering from nausea from one or the other, it's very unlikely to solve your problem by switching. If you do a ton of banked oval racing or rally driving however, the difference is significant. There is no right answer, unfortunately, as shown by the number of options that RealHeadMotion offers. But for me, if the option is simply between locking to horizon or cockpit, then it's definitely cockpit. On Dirt Rally, the horizon lock is totally distracting, and quite unpleasant.