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bombshell
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(04-21-2017, 03:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Albatross

YEp, and if my aging memory is serving me correctly, this is what they did with GTA V and RDR 2 last year. They revealed their trailers the same week as E3, but not at any E3 show or during any pressers.

Red Dead Redemption 2 reveal was 20th October last year, teased a couple days before.
ASilentProtagonist
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(04-21-2017, 03:52 PM)
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It's just one of those things were you just know it won't hit the scheduled release date.

May 2018 train.
Chris1
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(04-21-2017, 03:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Nirolak

I can't think of the last game they shipped with like less than a 6 month delay. Even less than 12 months is hard.

To be fair tho, those games were out not long after their previous release.

Bully 2006, GTA 4 2008, RDR 2010, Max Payne 3 2012, GTA V 2013.

They were putting a new game out every <2 years, delays happen here and there when you have a workload like that especially when all the R* teams help each other out. There has been nothing for 4 years and the games probably been worked on in some form for 7, that's why I think it'll come out this year.

I mean there is the remaster and GTA Online updates, but I doubt that's a large team
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3rdamention
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Originally Posted by SpaceWolf

Does Rockstar have an established track record of delaying their games?


Yes, and an incredible track record of not showing gameplay to the public until right up before release...


They don't have a lot of leaky ships at Rockstar...That's why the OP shouldn't be concerned at all that there hasn't been any footage....This is how Rockstar does it...
LycanXIII
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Originally Posted by 3rdamention

Yes, and an incredible track record of not showing gameplay to the public until right up before release...


They don't have a lot of leaky ships at Rockstar...That's why the OP shouldn't be concerned at all that there hasn't been any footage....This is how Rockstar does it...

Yeah, and they're one of the few devs that don't need a long marketing campaign to sell their games.
DryvBy
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(04-21-2017, 04:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Theorry

Its the master of it haha.

Blizzard is god-tier then.

And I don't care because both of these companies put out killer games.
Coffinhal
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(04-21-2017, 04:03 PM)
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We don't know and people saying "2018" don't know more than you and me.

There's still a window for the end of 2017, but if we don't see anything in May (pre-E3 period) or at E3, then we'll know at 99% that is is delayed.

Originally Posted by ASilentProtagonist

It's just one of those things were you just know it won't hit the scheduled release date.

May 2018 train.

You don't know, you're assuming. (or the meaning of this word has changed)
sotolongospeaks
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(04-21-2017, 04:11 PM)
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I don't want to sound dismissive of anyone who may be expecting a Fall 2017 release date, but when the window was announced last October the first words out of my mouth were "that's getting delayed." The highest profile release I can think of that wasn't delayed in some capacity recently was Resident Evil 7, but that has nothing to do with Rockstar's incredible track record for stringing along launch windows. I'm sure they intend to hit the window, but it's not going to be a surprise when they don't.

I would love nothing more than to be wrong and have the game come out earlier, as long as it's complete. But I'm not exactly optimistic.
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(04-21-2017, 04:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by 3rdamention

Yes, and an incredible track record of not showing gameplay to the public until right up before release...


They don't have a lot of leaky ships at Rockstar...That's why the OP shouldn't be concerned at all that there hasn't been any footage....This is how Rockstar does it...

I know that Rockstar does things differently from other developers when it comes to the marketing and trailers. But you'd think we'd get a solid release date soon if it was indeed on it's way in 2017.
labx
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(04-21-2017, 04:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by McMoneyman

Closing in on 10 years on this, jesus.

I can see what you mean, but with this one it seems a bit more vague with "coming soon" rather than a specific time frame. Also that Agent page probably hasn't been updated in forever(?).

You are correct, R* announce it in 2009 and that was it.

Q2 2018, train.
Polygonal_Sprite
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(04-21-2017, 04:22 PM)
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People who actually believe this is coming out this year are deluded. It will be Spring 2018 at the earliest but probably late 2018. They always do this to build hype and it works.
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May 2018 it feels like. The return of the Rockstar Summers.

With the exclusive marketing deal, I wonder how this will fare between Scorpio and Pro. Whatever system it performs better on will tide me over before the PC release, and will be the one I get for a mid-gen refresh.
Lord of Castamere
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(04-21-2017, 04:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Polygonal_Sprite

People who actually believe this is coming out this year are deluded. It will be Spring 2018 at the earliest but probably late 2018. They always do this to build hype and it works.

Yet they didn't do this with Red Dead Redemption, the last game Rockstar San Diego headed, and the one heading this. From my point view, the Jedi are evil.
Harp
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(04-21-2017, 04:27 PM)
Inst normal that rockstar does an info blitz in the summer?

Beside if they said the game would be out Tuesday they still would sell 10 million copy's. There really is no need for a long drawn out press run. Look at how they have been doing GtA online features. They release a trailer a week before release.

I would expect Sony to have gameplay at e3 and a game informer cover for June. And that's it until a few weeks before release. They probably have been working on the game over 5 years already.
Gorillaz
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(04-21-2017, 04:27 PM)
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It's coming out Spring 2018. Rockstar would have had the marketing cylinders running wild if it was actually a fall release

Rockstar delaying a game is 2nd nature now. That's why I never believe they first date they give anymore. Alot of people still fall for it too.

RDR1 was delayed as well to the late spring/early summer too iirc
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bud23
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(04-21-2017, 04:31 PM)
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In May we should see the second trailer and a release date announcement, plus, maybe, GameInformer info blowout

If this doesn't happen, then yeah, it will be probably delayed
TetraGenesis
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(04-21-2017, 04:39 PM)
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I sure would love to play RDR2 in fall but, honestly, this year has already been so good and there are already a bounty of promising games coming this fall that I would prefer if RDR2 had more time in the oven and came out strong Spring 2018. Chances are I'll probably get my way with how this usual goes with Rockstar.
jacobeid
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(04-21-2017, 04:41 PM)
I don't think we'll get it this year not because of their silence but because of their history with delays.
Lord of Castamere
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(04-21-2017, 04:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gorillaz

RDR1 was delayed as well to the late spring/early summer too iirc

That's incorrect. Red Dead Redemption was announced for an April 27, 2010 release date November 2009, a few days before the second Trailer released. It had no other dates or windows prior. It was then delayed 22 days in March, to May 18 2010, for a better time frame.

Originally Posted by AndyVirus


GTA 5 trailer 1: November 11
Trailer 2: November 12
Trailer 3: April 13
Release: September 13

You're missing quite a few in there. Half actually, there were 6 trailers total. The gameplay trailer in June 2013, the launch trailer in Aug 2013, and the GTA online trailer in Aug 2013 are what you're missing.
Ahasverus
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(04-21-2017, 05:07 PM)
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I think we need to light the press sneak fuck signal.
TheVisualizer
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(04-21-2017, 05:18 PM)
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With how well GTAV and GTA Online stuff continue to sell I wonder if releasing this year would be a bad business move for Rockstar?

If you are still making money off your whales, target audience and the mainstream who are all likely buy RDR2 too, from a business perspective why not milk that as long as you can?
Catdaddy
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The Take Two SEC filing from February 2017 still shows a Fall 2017 release date. That said if it does get pushed, I’d bet it would be out by the end of their fiscal year, March 2018. Since they just ended their fiscal year in March 2017, they’ll have a full press release which may give details in the next few weeks. Publically owned companies can’t be as secretive as privately held companies….for the shareholders and all…
Pizza con salsiccia
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(04-21-2017, 05:26 PM)
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People assuming things when it'd be wiser to wait until E3...
AHA-Lambda
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(04-21-2017, 05:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pizza con salsiccia

People assuming things when it'd be wiser to wait until E3...

When was the last time R* bothered with E3?
blly155
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(04-21-2017, 05:36 PM)

Originally Posted by Pizza con salsiccia

People assuming things when it'd be wiser to wait until E3...

Rockstar won't be at E3 ... as usual. I think the last time they were there was for GTAIII? They don't need it. They can do everything on the newswire.
Lord of Castamere
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(04-21-2017, 05:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by AHA-Lambda

When was the last time R* bothered with E3?

2014 when they announced GTA V next gen. R* may not care, but their marketing partner does.
Asd202
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(04-21-2017, 05:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by blly155

Rockstar won't be at E3 ... as usual. I think the last time they were there was for GTAIII? They don't need it. They can do everything on the newswire.

Well I think this year may be different with how they announced partnership with Sony few months ago. Still less than likely to happen though.
blly155
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(04-21-2017, 05:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Asd202

Well I think this year may be different with how they announced partnership with Sony few months ago. Still less than likely to happen though.

All I take from it is that Sony might talk about the game during their presentation. Kinda like how they revealed the PS4 version of GTA V.
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(04-21-2017, 05:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by blly155

Rockstar won't be at E3 ... as usual. I think the last time they were there was for GTAIII? They don't need it. They can do everything on the newswire.

The GTAV Remaster was revealed in Sony's E3 conference of whatever year that was.

edit - just saw post above.
Hurricane43
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(04-21-2017, 05:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheVisualizer

With how well GTAV and GTA Online stuff continue to sell I wonder if releasing this year would be a bad business move for Rockstar?

If you are still making money off your whales, target audience and the mainstream who are all likely buy RDR2 too, from a business perspective why not milk that as long as you can?

But there not... They lose money, in fact millions each time they have a conference call... You're falling for the 75 million V sold etc etc but look at the numbers, don't fall for the Internet hype...
blly155
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(04-21-2017, 05:52 PM)

Originally Posted by bryanee

The GTAV Remaster was revealed in Sony's E3 conference of whatever year that was.

edit - just saw post above.

still...that was Sony announcing it not Rockstar. Rockstar hasn't appeared there themselves for years.
Falchion
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(04-21-2017, 05:54 PM)
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Maybe this time they aren't announcing anything until they have a firm launch window that they know they'll be able to hit. I'm hoping they can do 2017 still.
Piggus
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(04-21-2017, 05:56 PM)
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Another thread where people don't understand how Rockstar markets their games. It's just as likely that there will be a big dump of info in the next several months and that the game is still on time.

Rockstar is not a traditional dev in terms of how they show off their products. Hell, they tend to be very low-key at E3 despite having some huge franchises.
tilomite!
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(04-21-2017, 05:57 PM)
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I'm really hoping it'll realease I'm 2017. Rockstar is my favorite developer, I need a current gen masterpiece from them.
bonesmccoy
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(04-21-2017, 06:00 PM)
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I think Fall 2017 is still on.

Sony's E3 presentation will end with something about RDR2.

book it
Simo
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(04-21-2017, 06:13 PM)
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Take Two's last investors call said it would release before the end of fiscal 2018, being March 31st 2018, and given this has been cooking since 2012 I'm still hopeful for this fall. October looks likely and open given all the other big releases so far are favoring September and November.

Still, 6 months without a peep on the game since the announcement is frustrating as hell. Lol Take Two's next investors call is in the middle of May so we may hear more just prior to it.
bud23
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(04-21-2017, 06:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hurricane43

But there not... They lose money, in fact millions each time they have a conference call...

That´s true, and what?

Take two stocks are trading at record highs, apparently investors don´t give a shit about quarterly losses, mostly because those losses represent money invested in new projects, most of them successful proyects

Originally Posted by Hurricane43

You're falling for the 75 million V sold etc etc but look at the numbers, don't fall for the Internet hype...

The numbers say that GTA products generated over $650 million in NET revenue in 2016 ......that without a brand new GTA game

He´s not wrong
SpaceWolf
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(04-21-2017, 06:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Albatross

Aye they don't come out with enough games for it to be remembered when the next one gets delayed, but every major Rockstar title since GTA: Vice City has been delayed in some way, some for over a year.

Lemme think...

GTA III was delayed, but this was mostly because if 9/11. The game was supposed to come out in September or early Oct of 2011, but there was a mission that had to be removed, where a player was supposed to fly the Dodo into a building, and so after 9/11 it had to be cut. There was already some antagonism against the game because prominent screenshots features the player firing AK-47s at police and firefighters, and being set in New York City just in the aftermath of 9/11, the optics were bad. There's some speculation that this is also why they clipped the wings of the dodo so it really couldn't be flown.

GTA Vice CIty came out on time.

GTA San Andreas was delayed by a month close to release.

GTA IV was supposed to be released October 2007, but in August 2007 they announced it'd be delayed until April 2008.

Red Dead Redemption was delated about a month from April 2010 to May 2010.

GTA V was delayed for a year IIRC, though the only firm dates were from April 2013 to Sept 2013.

I don't know the specifics of games like Max Payne, Table Tennis, or other less impactful games. Looking back it doesn't seem as bad, though in the moment I remember there being a lot more projections of release dates, only to hear nothing for weeks or months, speculation of the delays, and then finally confirmation from Rockstar a few weeks before the planned release.

Interesting. Thank you!
jmartoine
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(04-21-2017, 06:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by DryvBy

Blizzard is god-tier then.

And I don't care because both of these companies put out killer games.

To be fair to Blizzard, even with delays they have a year or so of beta which is fairly open to the public.
AndyVirus
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(04-21-2017, 07:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lord of Castamere

You're missing quite a few in there. Half actually, there were 6 trailers total. The gameplay trailer in June 2013, the launch trailer in Aug 2013, and the GTA online trailer in Aug 2013 are what you're missing.

Well yeah, those were in his time frame of going dark until 2 or 3 months release. My point was the trailers were coming out at a steady interval from the start.
DrD
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Team 2017. I can see Rockstar dropping a trailer at Sony's E3 conference. It's not like Rockstar have to show up themselves, Sony's last E3 was basically trailer after trailer with little talking.
Brix
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I hope we get some info at E3

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