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David Hayter not reprising his role as Snake in Metal Gear Solid 5? Statement
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SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
He's at that point in his life where he's trying to look like he did when he was young.That reminds me, Big Boss needs a haircut. I hope he gets the slicked-back look at some point.
FlashbladeGAF
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Lets get Geoff to ask Kojima "why no Hayter?!" in his upcoming interview.
someone PM him
someone PM him
He already did and Kojima actually gave him a straight answer, its too bad that Geoff won't post the interview for a couple of days.
My thinking is that they've simply recast the voice of Big Boss, which implies that either A) Solid Snake will not appear in MGSV at all, or B) He will appear, and they're just being super hush-hush about it, including having Hayter claim that he's not involved in any way.
I am curious to hear what Kojima had to say in the interview on the subject. I have a feeling it won't be as "straight" of an answer as is being claimed, though.. Kojima doesn't really do straight answers, especially not about the MGS series.
I am curious to hear what Kojima had to say in the interview on the subject. I have a feeling it won't be as "straight" of an answer as is being claimed, though.. Kojima doesn't really do straight answers, especially not about the MGS series.
Robot Pants
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Hayter has to be in on this. He'll show up at the end somehow or maybe just his voice post credits.
RoombaDance
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Carnival of Crazy time.
I think Kojima's pulling another character swap on us. In one of these two games you aren't playing as Big Boss. There's a third character on the third bunk who gets swapped in.
David Hayter voices someone.
I think Kojima's pulling another character swap on us. In one of these two games you aren't playing as Big Boss. There's a third character on the third bunk who gets swapped in.
David Hayter voices someone.
IrishNinja
Member
id love to hear some other voice in previews, then "kept you waiting?" in the game, don't get me wrong
immortal-joe
Member
Said this before in the first thread when he first suggested they didnt ask him.
How you feel about his performance does not detract from the fact that his voice is linked with the game's audiovisual presentation for English speakers.
The grunts, the screams, the gravely delivery of one-liners over codec.
That may not be textbook voice acting, but it has become a staple of Hayter and his Snake.
Baker will do fine, but he wont be "snake", not the one we know.
How you feel about his performance does not detract from the fact that his voice is linked with the game's audiovisual presentation for English speakers.
The grunts, the screams, the gravely delivery of one-liners over codec.
That may not be textbook voice acting, but it has become a staple of Hayter and his Snake.
Baker will do fine, but he wont be "snake", not the one we know.
Honestly that was terrible. I don't understand how people thought that robotic delivery was his best performance.
IrishNinja
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Anticitizen One
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I'll wait for a proper Metal Gear game where you play as Solid Snake (voiced by David Hayter) and go after Liquid or something.
Series hasn't been the same since they got rid of the main theme and ditched the MGS voice actors for Snake and Liquid
Series hasn't been the same since they got rid of the main theme and ditched the MGS voice actors for Snake and Liquid
IrrelevantNotch
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Imagine if this was really a prank, and David Hayter decided to skim this thread to see what the "hilarious" reactions would be only to find out that everybody hates him. Poor guy. You should all feel ashamed.
I like my Metal Gear voice actors to be over the top and cartoony.
What's up with all this concern about dramatic performance, when Metal Gear's script is what they have to read? That kind of stuff is better delivered by a funny and anime-like voice actor, imo.
Think of Solidus, Liquid, Vamp and all these kind of characters, do you really want serious actors to voice them?
What's up with all this concern about dramatic performance, when Metal Gear's script is what they have to read? That kind of stuff is better delivered by a funny and anime-like voice actor, imo.
Think of Solidus, Liquid, Vamp and all these kind of characters, do you really want serious actors to voice them?
Hayter wouldn't be saying on twitter they didn't even offer him the job if he was secretly doing it because it makes Konami / Kojima look like dicks.
People need to stop the conspiracy BS, he sadly is not coming back unless they decide to shoehorn him in later in a small role / cameo.
People need to stop the conspiracy BS, he sadly is not coming back unless they decide to shoehorn him in later in a small role / cameo.
crazyjah2003
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OOOO I called this back in Highschool(8-9 years ago) and when 24 was the thing. I said to anyone who would listen that Sutherland would make the best Solid Snake in a movie. I am not a big fan of his anymore... I'll wait and see.
Didn't the Hitman voice actor do the exact same thing for Absolution before it was revealed he was in the game after all?
Actually, I'd say it's the other way around. If it was real, he wouldn't be doing that because it's very unprofessional.
They gave him the job back because of outcry from fans
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I don't see a problem with this. If Kojima thinks it's time for change, then I support him.
Pyrrhus
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I agree with this. MGS4 was terrible (which I don't blame Hayter for). But Hayter is Snake. It sounded bizarre not to hear his grunts in that trailer when Big Boss was struggling through the hospital.
And for a man who's built his career on plagiarising as many blockbuster American movies as Kojima has to get huffy about similarities in the theme song and an obscure piece of classical music... You would hope this is all a ruse, but he did shitcan the iconic series theme, so I can believe he would leave the series star out in the cold in order to chase Hollywood even harder.
SuperDowns
Banned
Good, time for something new.
The thing is that Kojima is the only one that doesn't seem to realise he's parodying himself with the most recent MGS games. Making them po-faced instead of ironically camp will only make them worse.
No. When you have an established voice for a character, changing that ruins the character and (probably) the game. Hayter IS snake. No Hayter, no snake.
If they change Snake's voice, I'm buying this used. Fuck Konami. Don't ruin iconic characters.
Only if it's a whole new non Big Boss or cloned (Snake) character.
Liquid was a clone but sounded totally different & looked completely different.
Oddly the MGS 1 ending ocelot told the president that the inferior clone won, How would Snake be inferior when he is a carbon copy.
Alcoholikaust
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very foolish decision Kojima, what are we NOT playing as snake in this game as well?
fuck another mgs2 atrocity.
fuck another mgs2 atrocity.
Arozay
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I always thought it was weird that Hayter voiced Big Boss in MGS3 (regardless of the Japanese version keeping the same actors), even if they are clones it's better to make a character stand on its own (Liquids voice!).
Plus when/if we get to a point where there's dialogue with Boss and Snake (pre-Old Snake) it would be hilarious if it wasn't changed... wait, keep Hayter.
Plus when/if we get to a point where there's dialogue with Boss and Snake (pre-Old Snake) it would be hilarious if it wasn't changed... wait, keep Hayter.
Pyrrhus
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Snake was a clone with all the dominant genes. Liquid was the one with all of the recessives. Neither would inherently be the superior or inferior clone based on that alone. Liquid thought he was the inferior copy because he was stupid and slept through Biology. But in fact, none of these genetically manipulated clones would look, sound, or act anywhere near exactly like Big Boss. And actually, Solid Snake has blue eyes so he couldn't possibly have nothing but Big Boss's dominant genes. Why am I investing this much thought into this?
jetsetfluken
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Spoiler alert:
This is more than likely due to how the "heroic Big Boss" and the "villian Big Boss" can be seen as somehow different characters and personalities. This game will most likely really illustrate how Big Boss transformed into the villianous mastermind role possibly even etching the beginnings on Solid Snake, possibly even him in this game (child or flash to the near future segment)...and it would be strange to have two characters talking to each other, or even in the same game, with the exact same voice...clones or not.
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. I wouldn't write off Hayter not being here, just not reprising the role of Naked Snake/Big Boss...but Solid Snake. If a later part of this game features him. Even if not, I do think this game might have the cloning process take place instead of just referencing to it like the other games. I think the hospital part may just be where Big Boss was being cloned. Maybe it wasn't on purpose but forced upon him or a mistake, as to why he's trying to escape.
It could also be that the hiring of voice actors part of development simply hasn't happened yet...and if it has, maybe just the Japanese staff, not English yet.
This is more than likely due to how the "heroic Big Boss" and the "villian Big Boss" can be seen as somehow different characters and personalities. This game will most likely really illustrate how Big Boss transformed into the villianous mastermind role possibly even etching the beginnings on Solid Snake, possibly even him in this game (child or flash to the near future segment)...and it would be strange to have two characters talking to each other, or even in the same game, with the exact same voice...clones or not.
In
MGS4, Old Solid Snake talked with Big Boss at the end, both with different voice actors
It could also be that the hiring of voice actors part of development simply hasn't happened yet...and if it has, maybe just the Japanese staff, not English yet.
jetsetfluken
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No, that was on purpose. The "rugged" touch to it for MGS4 was obvious due to Solid being old, and Peace Walker's rugged touch was relating to how battle-hardened and older Big Boss was becoming...if you can even call it more rugged than before.
Pyrrhus
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The man also smoked cigars like a stack.
jetsetfluken
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Yeah, that too.
Poetic.Injustice
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Time for an internet petition.
This is deplorable.
This is deplorable.
Messypandas
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I'll laugh if this was just subterfuge for Hayter to get a surprise cameo, the daggers are out for him. Poor guy.
bitoriginal
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Hayter = Solid Snake. People talking shit about Hayter in this thread weren't around in 98.
Yes. I really don't like that it isn't Hayter anymore. What the fuck was Kojima thinking?
Every time I would turn MGS1 and see it in bold that David Hayter is the VA for Snake and recognize his voice immediately especially since I was still learning English back then, so it made it matter more.
Maybe it is another troll attempt by Kojima, but until that's confirmed, I will be VERY skeptical of buying the game.
Agreed, they probably played crap games like Final Fantasy. Real men played MGS.
*runs away*.
Future PhaZe
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For me Hayter = Solid Snake.
Really hoping Sutherland takes over as Big Boss full time.
Really hoping Sutherland takes over as Big Boss full time.
SolidSnakex
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Well, to be quite honest the Hayter voice from 98 hasn't existed since 98. So I don't really view him as being irreplaceable. He's sounded like a guy doing an imitation of Snake's voice ever since the original. I don't view him as being as important to Snake as Nolan North to Nathan Drake. I absolutely can't imagine Drake being voiced by anyone else. But Snake? Well, he sounds different in every game because Hayter continues to chase that 98 Snake.
Or maybe because Snake was getting older throughout the series...?
Drake was pretty much the same age in every single game, but you're right about that.
ed: Same with Quinton Flynn, MGS2 Raiden, MGS4 Raiden. Completely different. I'm guessing they purposely change the voices a bit to better suit the characters more. I always viewed MGS1 Snake as a bit of a loose cannon, always shouting and being angry most of the time. In MGS2 he seems a lot more calmer and much more experienced. I'm guessing due to the change in the roles he was supposed to come across as a wise person because he was like a mentor to Raiden. Same in MGS3, seemed experienced.