Game will probably run better on the original Xbone than on slightly old i7's.
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Turn 10 Confirms That Forza Motorsport 7 Intentionally Runs Mostly on One Core
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Game will probably run better on the original Xbone than on slightly old i7's.
Adry9
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The new "it's not a bug it's a feature".
lmao
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lmao
Now I need to know the source of the video
This thing is the best thing. I love CPU 2.
Khalifa Jayy
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OMFG this is incredible.
CrimsonEclipse
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LOL! So so good!
This decision doesn't seem to make any sense to me. Turn 10, come on now...I know you guys can do better than this.
Thats...odd.
Menus are stuttery on Xbox as well. Gameplay runs smoothly though.
Serious Sam
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Which PC are you talking about specifically? Because it runs silky smooth on mine all maxed out with 200% resolution scaling and 4xMSAA, all that with a 2.5 year old 980Ti. Not bad, not bad at all.
KainXVIII
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That's a relief!
well, not really, but still
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oh my fucking goodness
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CPU 2
Insane Metal
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This is absolutely one of the best .gifs I've ever seen. Fucking LOL
Elfforkusu
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Just a bit of insight, there is actually some advantage to eliminating as much context switching as possible from a programming perspective, and it can reduce latencies in certain scenarios. Node.js is the new hotness and is entirely single-threaded.
That said, i don't know if it this excuse has any legitimacy. The xbox version being 60fps would have me learn towards no..
That said, i don't know if it this excuse has any legitimacy. The xbox version being 60fps would have me learn towards no..
CrimsonEclipse
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Interesting, still not sure why there isn't an option for multi-threaded. In any event, hopefully they fix it for people who will be playing this on PC.
Well that's a great attitude to have.
How can I be sure this is the cause of the performance issues?
- Here is the performance I get without doing any tweaks to the game.
- And this is the performance I get after enabling Game Mode and then disabling Forza on the first 25% of the available cores, to force the CPU workload to be spread more evenly across all available 8c/16t.
Then see how much smoother the frametime and GPU usage graphs are, and how much smoother the game is running in the second clip.
The game still seems to stutter at specific points on the track regardless of how smoothly it's running otherwise, which the second clip captures - once in the clip, and there is also evidence of another stutter in the GPU usage graph history, since it's polled at a slower rate than frametime.
Videos recorded directly on a PC often seem to have stutters not present during actual gameplay, so trust the graphs more than the clip.
It's absurd. Seems more like an excuse than an actual reason to do this to the port. Got to make the Xbox One X's 2.3GHz Jaguar look good.
Technically there may be latency benefits to what they're doing.
Most games don't seem to have an issue with it, and if this did improve things, it should be an option rather than the default behavior for the port.
They never mentioned anything about latency with the Forza Horizon 3 port when they patched in an option to enable better multithreading - though it is strange that it was an option at all.
ss_lemonade
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Spartancarver
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Nope.
Spartancarver
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This is incredible
GameAddict411
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This is just absolute bullshit from Turn 10. Forza Horizon 3 and even Forza 6 suffered from lack of multi threading making it almost impossible to play on any CPU but the best on the market to hit 60 fps especially Horizon 3. They released a patch to enable multi threading and now those games run like a dream. Nobody complained from input lack. They are just too lazy to implement multithreading, or there are other ulterior motives to practically sabotage the port. Fuck you turn 10.
I wonder what it is that becomes very important in achieving and maintaining framerates in excess of 60? Oh that's right, it's multiple cores.
Turn 10 professing the inclusion of high framerates in all their pre-release spiel, and then locking the game down to a single core is just mind-bendingly stupid.
Miniature Kaiju
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Running the code mostly single-threaded can indeed provide latency benefits, but any gains on a competently developed multi-thread flow would be pretty minimal.
It's baffling that this is even a thing. If anything, threaded rendering should be default and this an option for those with higher-end CPUs.
It's baffling that this is even a thing. If anything, threaded rendering should be default and this an option for those with higher-end CPUs.
BigEmil
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Lol
MrTroubleMaker
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GHG
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This gif is incredible.
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This is funniest gif I've seen AGES. Good lord my sides!
This was my experience as well. Actually racing was fine but the menus was another matter. I was actually surprised how better things were when the race start because of this. I only did the first and third car twice though. So I have no clue how my PC would have held up under a longer play session.
Silent Hill
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It ran pretty bad for me
DodgyGeezerFella
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The menu stutter stuff just seems to be when its loading up the race map and things, would spreading the load across CPU cores fix that ?
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This gif is incredible and should be sent to the developer. It is really funny lol.
OneEightZero
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The guy said that it's normal for one core to run at near 100%. Not that the game only uses a single core. And yes, his latency excuse could be valid. Thread interference is a real thing when trying to access shared resources between multiple threads etc.
I've only seen the stuttering on the menus. Do people have it happening during gameplay? Just saying I've ran the demo on slightly older hardware that I didn't think would make the cut, but it ran perfect. So, uh yeah.
I've only seen the stuttering on the menus. Do people have it happening during gameplay? Just saying I've ran the demo on slightly older hardware that I didn't think would make the cut, but it ran perfect. So, uh yeah.
pixelation
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This is silly... like didn't they learn nothing or what?
it freezes for some people for a few seconds
888
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Menus are awful. I booted it up and didn't press anything and it was windowed and running butter smooth on the menu with the camera going around the 911. Then I pressed a button and it went full screen and bam stutter. Game loads ok and then going around the track I get a hard pause for a bit and then maybe it starts back up. Sometimes crashes. My main pc is down needing a new water cooler but I am playing on a 1070 i5 2400 and it is rough.
hanspampel
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Best cpu ever
Wonder Peter
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1 core 1 life. Working as intended.
Better get a brand new Pentium 4.
Better get a brand new Pentium 4.