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Wii redesign [Pictures, No Backwards Compatibility/GameCube Controllers, Keeps Wi-fi]
- Thread starter Cosmonaut X
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Actually that's why they even made the Wii inthe 1rst place! the whole Wii marketing was about bringing everyone in, not just putting a thing for the family and the others can go take a hike.Ydahs said:
I'm arguing that they're changing their whole marketing to chase a demographic they either already have or shouldn't be chasing anyway.
Ydahs said:
The catch is that it's not the expanded audience anymore! Why? because they're already their core audience now (see wiisports, wii play, wiifit and wiisport resort)
Cygnus X-1
Member
Mr_Zombie said:
It isn't. This is a step back for a core gamer perspective. Will not affect casual market though. On the contrary: this pack is pretty attractive for a family point of view.
They're trying to lure in the customers who haven't bought the system yet by offering it at a tempting lower price, customers who probably don't care about the successor launching so soon (since they waited so long before biting in the first place).Hanmik said:Have the Japanese companies lost their minds..?
New-PSP without Wifi..
New-Wii without BC..
and those arrive few months before a new succesor for the console arrives..
Damn them for changing the power LED color!Medalion said:
(which *could* mean loss of WiiConnect24, by the way)
Cygnus X-1
Member
Hanmik said:
It's just Gamecube BC. Do you think the targeted people will give a shit to its omission? Go asking what a Gamecube was; they'll even not remember it!
Its initial inclusion was just a move to make Gamecube owners shift to the Wii more easily, since the console was very casual oriented from the very beginning. Twilight Princess GC version also helped that decision probably.
Cygnus X-1 said:
Hell, they did the same thing with the original NES, removing the A/V jacks for the top loading NES, leaving it with just the RF.
Sony did the same thing with the PS3, removing PS2 compatibility, extra USB ports, etc.
It's not as if this is anything new, and it makes a lot of sense if this is coupled with a price drop to $99.
rollingstart
Banned
Jocchan said:
honestly, I think people just forgot what the Wii looked like. I did.
compared to other systems, especially Nintendo's past (and future, as the Wii U is a step up) hardware, the Wii is just an angular white box. Clinical and charmless. Tightly packed for efficiency.
The only oddity from the Gamecube's omission is the number of software that have Gamecube "stuff" in them. Sonic Colors has an entire interface for the Gamecube controller.
Would be neat if Nintendo released a new Classic Controller modeled after the gamecube controller.
davonaytor
Member
I think what they might be doing is changing up the look of the Wii-U, because of all the confusion of it at e3, and making this model resemble the Wii-U we saw at e3.
They know it confused a lot of people, and that many thought the console shown in the trailers was just a Wii. If they got that Wii-U out of peoples minds by giving out this similar looking Wii, they could show off a new Wii-U that differentiates itself enough so people understand it's a new console.
They know it confused a lot of people, and that many thought the console shown in the trailers was just a Wii. If they got that Wii-U out of peoples minds by giving out this similar looking Wii, they could show off a new Wii-U that differentiates itself enough so people understand it's a new console.
Nora Kisaragi
Banned
CRAP. Does this mean a new system dash update is coming out soon?
Better update to 4.4 while I can...
Better update to 4.4 while I can...
Mael said:
Pretty much.
The message is well taken from where I stand.
I've owned mutilple generations of Nintendo consoles but they've really fallen in my eyes.
Wii is absolutely a joke right now and the few games I actually want to play I have to import.
Then on 3DS, I'm playing more DSiWare and VC games than anything else and even that was only possible once the shop channel came online months after launch.
Then they kindly let me know I wasted $80 but I at least I get some old ROM dumps in return!
My attitude towards this company has changed immensely in just a few months.
Now they have work to do to regain my confidence in their products.
*This* gimped Wii is just something else for me to ignore.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Nessus said:
I do think that the inclusion of a second game is the "Nintendo way" to make it a better deal. I do not think a 99$ price point is nowhere near. They have to offset 3DS losses in every way at this point.
I almost can see Iwata with its staff thinking at every way to make costs go down. I wonder if DSi and DSi LL will also follow the same fate.
I never said anything that disagrees with your viewpoint. I'm just saying that it's evident that they are targeting it more towards families, even though it's an audience they have been targeting all along.Mael said:
Why? Beats me, since it was their focus from the start, but it's likely a marketing decision to lure in more non gamers during the holiday period where there will be a price cut. Smart move if there is a price cut (since it can be accompanied with a new campaign), but confusing if it's just a new bundle for the same price (which makes no sense with the removed features).
Cygnus X-1
Member
Mael said:
Wii Party came out later than WSR.
I know. This is not a better deal in any way. Casual market will not notice though.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
Not different, but replacement. This will be the Wii.Jocchan said:
Old Wii wil disappear from shops, this one will stay.
This is no redesign, this is just the wii. This is like PS3 version CECH-3001B wil be replaced with CECH-3000B. Also not a redesign, just a replacement.
This is what I believe they're trying to do. They need to meet their hw sales forecasts, so a family-oriented pack just in time for Christmas could be very helpful.Ydahs said:
More than them changing their target market, it looks more like a last minute attempt to fix a bad year and control damages.
Is this confirmed? Very stupid if true.Ruud_Luiten said:
Sammy Samusu
Member
So... where's the redesign?
Teknoman said:
Metal Slug doesn't support the CC, I know it's an early Wii game but still.
And the analog placement for n64 is wrong on the CC.
Cygnus X-1 said:
Except they're already not buying that packing and NOT buying Wiiparty anyway, wtf is that going to make it more appealing in replacing a popular game with a game no one wants?
Better make an hardcore bundle with Other M while they're at it.
lobdale said:
I'll admit that was a bad subtle joke about people not knowing what the wii looks llike when powered on...
Cygnus X-1
Member
Shiggy said:
Maybe black costs less than white. :lol
Pics?
At least you got something for being an early adopter. When Apple releases its updated hardware, people don't get 20 free apps... despite releasing updated hardware yearly in many cases (with much more than $80 of savings to be had). Most companies shun their early adopters, and most products are either reduced in price or revised sooner or later.Diffense said:
You get 20 free games, you get to have the console straight away, and there is more chance of good third party support (meaning more/better games for you to play) in the future. What have you lost? If you have regrets about being an early adopter, then perhaps you should wait for the platform to be established, since this kind of stuff often happens.
Oh, and this Wii update is designed for you to ignore.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Mael said:
Maybe exactly because of that? A game that appeals can sell by itself, whereas the inclusion of a game who does not appeal is the best way to reduce the stockpiles in excess. Of course alone would kill the sales of whole package, but since it packed with Wii Sports, no-one will notice the difference.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Another thought: So this is how they celebrate 10 years of GameCube
Plus, power surge=dead power brick rather than dead system.
I assume there is no financial incentive to a smaller brick if this thing even uses much less power.
*-It flashes at 4AM to tell you about the firmware update you downloaded several weeks ago...
*insert PS3 joke?*
The reason for these power bricks (and why they won't change) is it means aside from serial number and firmware every Wii is the same meaning manufacturer can easily change regions to suit demand lowering production costs. Since different parts of the world use different voltages, it falls to the power brick to ensure the Wii gets the right power supplied. I think systems used to do this in the plug due to the power the systems required being small. As systems consume more energy this would make the plug a fire hazzard (it used to be a problem with importing as with each next gen came needing a higher voltage step-down convertor).Scotch said:
Plus, power surge=dead power brick rather than dead system.
I assume there is no financial incentive to a smaller brick if this thing even uses much less power.
I hope so. That feature manages to be both useless* and extremely dangerous.Jocchan said:
Corruptor of Gamecube memory cards, melter of GPU