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[MCV] Nioh a 'triumphant return' for Koei Tecmo as it eyes the western market
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SocksAndShoes
Banned
Well deserved, the game is phenomenal.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Will probably become TK's best selling title of all time.
razors4edge
Member
Good to hear. Nioh made February great! Looking forward to the next Ninja Gaiden. They better make different stances with individual attack animations the norm of their games.
I want the (Bluepoint) Ninja Gaiden Trilogy remaster! Why not give the Nintendo Switch Ninja Gaiden 3: Razors Edge, would be nice to have on the go.
I want the (Bluepoint) Ninja Gaiden Trilogy remaster! Why not give the Nintendo Switch Ninja Gaiden 3: Razors Edge, would be nice to have on the go.
All of the games you mentioned are picked up and published by significantly smaller outfits. The Xseeds of the world have different priorities and different metrics for success that make a niche title worth bringing over than the Koei Tecmos.
thepenguin55
Member
I don't have a particularly strong interest in ever playing Nioh but it's nice to hear this game is doing well in the West. For a long time it seemed like Tecmo was a Japanese company that designed games specifically with western audiences in mind but recently it has seemed like they had lost that audience almost entirely (or it at least wasn't as big an audience as it was).
Team Ninja needed Nioh. People had lost faith in Team Ninja's ability to make great games that didn't have DOA in their name. As for Ninja Gaiden my guess is that a new Ninja Gaiden will go into preproduction soon. Just a guess. They should take as much time as they need as they need to get this game right.
I have the unpopular opinion that NG2 (I'm including Sigma 2 with this) is the best game in the reboot series and NG3RE is number 2. I've owned every version of the reboot NG1 and have beaten it but only because it always felt like a game that SHOULD like so I kind of forced myself through it. For whatever reason it never grabbed me (I think my issues mostly stem from the progression system and the pacing of the game). It's funny because I actually really like NG3RE but I consider NG3 vanilla to be utter trash.
Whatever they do with NG next I don't think it can really be a direct sequel to what they have been doing. Even though Itagaki wasn't involved with NG3 I feel like the entire reboot trilogy very much reflects Itagaki's style. I think they should make a clean break and do something completely new with the series. Having said that, I think remaking the NES trilogy in the reboot NG2 style would be awesome.
Team Ninja needed Nioh. People had lost faith in Team Ninja's ability to make great games that didn't have DOA in their name. As for Ninja Gaiden my guess is that a new Ninja Gaiden will go into preproduction soon. Just a guess. They should take as much time as they need as they need to get this game right.
I have the unpopular opinion that NG2 (I'm including Sigma 2 with this) is the best game in the reboot series and NG3RE is number 2. I've owned every version of the reboot NG1 and have beaten it but only because it always felt like a game that SHOULD like so I kind of forced myself through it. For whatever reason it never grabbed me (I think my issues mostly stem from the progression system and the pacing of the game). It's funny because I actually really like NG3RE but I consider NG3 vanilla to be utter trash.
Whatever they do with NG next I don't think it can really be a direct sequel to what they have been doing. Even though Itagaki wasn't involved with NG3 I feel like the entire reboot trilogy very much reflects Itagaki's style. I think they should make a clean break and do something completely new with the series. Having said that, I think remaking the NES trilogy in the reboot NG2 style would be awesome.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Switch port begging people dogpile and shit on but apparently PC port begging is ok?
Jawbreaker
Member
One of the best games of the generation, so naturally, I think they deserve all the success they can find.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Gimme ninja Gaiden rather then console exclusive games please.
Pretty disappointed I'll never get to play nioh, but I want ninja Gaiden more.
Pretty disappointed I'll never get to play nioh, but I want ninja Gaiden more.
Jimmyfenix
Member
What if ninja gaiden is another sony collab? Clearly the help with publishing helped nioh sell like it did as stated in the article
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
BuckRobotron
Member
Nioh has been a favorite this year, platinumed and continuing. But I've also gotten more into DOA5 Last Round after picking it up recently on PS4 and DOAX3 still makes the rounds. I also granted them a few bucks towards a couple costumes in DOA5 and most recently picked up the season pass.
So the past few months have had a more Koei Tecmo focus than usual for me, and that will continue. Led by Nioh.
So the past few months have had a more Koei Tecmo focus than usual for me, and that will continue. Led by Nioh.
Jawbreaker
Member
For a Nioh sequel, I want Sony to lend them help from Japan Studio, and hook them up with recording sessions at AIR Studios. Give them the full Bloodborne treatment, and up the budget.
DriftingSpirit
Member
The idea of catering to the west is often mocked in Media Create threads but I'm glad there is clear evidence that shows it is a viable option for Japanese devs. It is just a matter of how they handle it. Koei Tecmo seems to be on the right path so far.
I still need to buy Nioh.
I still need to buy Nioh.
sixteen-bit
Member
NGB is still my fave OG Xbox game. Possibly favorite Gen6 game period.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
The idea of catering to the west is often mocked in Media Create threads but I'm glad there is clear evidence that shows it is a viable option for Japanese devs. It is just a matter of how they handle it. Koei Tecmo seems to be on the right path so far.
I still need to buy Nioh.
Only by those that are ignorant. One only needs to look at sales and there are many comments from other Japanese publishers to see why they focus on overseas sales.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Well, good to see them finding success here. I dunno why Japanese devs spent the last decade thinking that to appeal to the west, they needed to emulate western games. This is the kind of thing we wanted all along.
I could be interested in a pervy volleyball game with Wirriam, Ryu Hyabusa and Bayman. Can include the Oni too but no thongs.
Seriously though, Congrats to Tecmo on this. I feel like theyve been pushing this particular brand of Japanese quasi-history for a while now in their games so glad its paid off. I just hope they dont confuse chasing western success with trying to emulate western gaming trends because that did not work out for Japanese devs before. They just need to carry on doing what they do which is making great Japanese games. Keep giving us that gameplay perfection that few other countries can match.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
Well deserved. Nioh is fantastic. It's up there in my top 5-10 PS4 games.
Then KT should change their priorities or metrics.
Blaming the outlets for your insecurity in your product is lame, and it's just playing around with your customers. DOAX3 has already been talked on the media, and will be no matter if it's releases here or no. If they don't release the game here, is only on them.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Because western games really sell a lot. Nobody bats an eye if a western AAA game sells 1M, it's just a norm.
And Japanese games with western aesthetics tend to do better.
Demoskinos
Member
Hey. You know what? Take your time with Ninja Gaiden 4. I want it done right. And I don't want to have to wait for a reissue like NG3 for it to be playable. I am however insanely excited by the prospects of seeing Ryu Hayabusa full next gen splendor. Ninja Gaiden Black is still one of if not still my favorite game of all time. Nioh has been a pretty good stand in for the moment being. I need my boy Ryu Hayabusa though.
Jawmuncher
Member
Just let me play as Ninja Gaiden in Nioh.
Bloodporne
Member
Yeah more praise from me as well. I especially liked how they handled the demo cycles. I was really skeptical since they had been pumping out crap for my tastes for years and years but they definitely delivered.
Great to see that their philosophy of making the game they want and fuck it paid off in the end. Hopefully all these lessons will make the inevitable Nioh 2 even stronger.
Great to see that their philosophy of making the game they want and fuck it paid off in the end. Hopefully all these lessons will make the inevitable Nioh 2 even stronger.
ramoisdead
Member
Congrats on them for the success Nioh is having. However, if you want to appeal to the west in a favorable manner, K-T can start caring about the quality of their PC ports.
Great news to read (again). They deserved every bit of this success for how well they marketed and promoted this game. All hail Nioh!
Pretty much, yeah.
Again, there's no way I can imagine that Capcom will eventually bring their stylish action hero back into the mix and Team Ninja won't want to have their own guy primed and ready for his own return tour. And it helps that he still maintains visibility thanks to DOA and collab products like Musou Stars.
I just don't know it's in the cards for Ninja Ryu to make any announcements, this year. Team Ninja is another one of KT's busy and efficient squads, but I'd imagine that continuing to nurture Nioh and DOA6 are probably higher up on the docket. Not to mention Dissidia AE...
Pretty much, yeah.
Again, there's no way I can imagine that Capcom will eventually bring their stylish action hero back into the mix and Team Ninja won't want to have their own guy primed and ready for his own return tour. And it helps that he still maintains visibility thanks to DOA and collab products like Musou Stars.
I just don't know it's in the cards for Ninja Ryu to make any announcements, this year. Team Ninja is another one of KT's busy and efficient squads, but I'd imagine that continuing to nurture Nioh and DOA6 are probably higher up on the docket. Not to mention Dissidia AE...
Played it recently, and while its not in the same genre i find it a huge step down from NG2 as an action game.
Its not a bad game by any mean, but its extremely boring, just rush for the and skip all the aweful level design boss because all the fun is there fighting them.
Better than nothing i guess, and definitely better than anything they produced since NG2.
Its not a bad game by any mean, but its extremely boring, just rush for the and skip all the aweful level design boss because all the fun is there fighting them.
Better than nothing i guess, and definitely better than anything they produced since NG2.
fi1ip
Member
I feel the same way. NG3RE had its issues, but the game did a lot of the things right and is actually one of the better Ninja Gaiden games in general.
NG3 is complete trash, I agree. So after the NG3RE, I have a felling that Team Ninja knows what they should do with the series and I have very high hopes for the next game in the series.
sixteen-bit
Member
They'd rather relegate Ninja Gaiden to the musou crossover.
Augemitbutter
Member
day one.
Do you have reading comprehension issues? Where did i beg for a PC port?
pretty done
Member
Nice, glad to see a Japanese dev/pub see success by putting an action game on console where it belongs, and at 60fps too. Take some fucking notes Capcom.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Yep, I agree. I just choose to let it be now. I don't have to argue with brick walls.
Either way, good on KT and I wish them the best with their future products.
BakedTanooki
Member
Super happy about the success.
I got the platinum a few weeks ago, and still feel the gameplay / controls in my fingers and in my mind! It's truly something special.
I got the platinum a few weeks ago, and still feel the gameplay / controls in my fingers and in my mind! It's truly something special.
Nioh was a fantastic proof of concept and blueprint for the series going forward. I expect this to be the "Demon's Souls" of the IP, and the next game will expand greatly on the enemy and level design and world-building. They nailed combat, performance and graphics, so if they just work on tying the smaller levels together, bringing in more enemy variety and working on lore, it will be a workhorse going forward.
Very impressed with the turnaround from NG3.
Very impressed with the turnaround from NG3.
Bloodporne
Member
Said best right here. Right on.