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'Stop Giving Evil Characters Brown Skin'
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Interfectum
Member
Scar? Lol
It is pretty ridiculous.
Do you think they just randomly used whatever colors they happened to pick up when designing these characters?
The Hamburglar
Banned
so some 30 second twitter clip that only shows one game is proof this horrible pattern?
Hatty
Member
like an olive green, yes
it was even more green in the game
That's not olive green. And why should he be olive green anyway? Gerudo do not have green skin.
scrolling through that there's actually a really nice amount of diversity on display
pretty cool
It is a bit strange though, considering that Ganondorf as a character pre-dates the Gerudo. In ALttP, he was simply referred to as a thief, with no indication that he wasn't Hylian, since he didn't appear in human form at any point. Before that, there was no indication that Ganon was ever not a pig-demon.
It is certainly possible that they designed the Gerudo as a whole to match Ganondorf's backstory as a thief. It is true that the OoT Gerudo have very little role outside of being Ganondorf's followers. Breath of the Wild was the first time the Gerudo escaped that role as thieves, pirates, and brigands.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
I really liked how Breath of the Wild ironed over a lot of these issues so well. All the care they put into developing the Gerudo culture, the variety of skin tones for Gerudo and Hylians, and Urbosa's line about how
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she was furious that Ganon had once taken the form of her people and unfairly placed a blight on her culture's history
SixMachine
Member
Stop whitewashing evil characters I say
Fuck you Nomura.
Xehanort has always been dark skin. Even in the prequel, Birth By Sleep, the original old guy had the same skin color, so they didn't do any skin swapping. The only time there was a skin change is Terra but that is because he literally is sharing a body with that guy.
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
Olive green, I've heard it all.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Ok, but dark link and samus are black, not human skin black, literally black. They're dark as in evil.
Dark pit isn't even a villain.
BTW, and completely offtopic, I just realized that LeChuck image (#9) its actually modified with a paint drawn beard lol
But Evil Ryu is stronger than regular Ryu.
Look at this irrefutable proof.
https://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/sf4/
That tweet is offensive to me , because he is insinuating brown characters are not allowed to be stronger.
Look at this irrefutable proof.
https://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/sf4/
That tweet is offensive to me , because he is insinuating brown characters are not allowed to be stronger.
That's not olive green. And why should he be olive green anyway? Gerudo do not have green skin.
it's funny because the green of you quoting me almost matches ganondorf's skin color in that oot screen, except ganondorf is more green
also olive green:
Separate from skin tone, darker hues, and specifically black, represent evil. I don't think that symbolism has any racist roots. It's more like angels wearing white or wearing a white wedding dress vs or dressing in black for a funeral or hiding in the shadows.
Whether something is black or white can evoke an emotion while not being inherently racist.
It never even crossed my mind that Gandondorf has a skin tone. In my head he's a drab green.
Granted, I'm a white dude.
Whether something is black or white can evoke an emotion while not being inherently racist.
It never even crossed my mind that Gandondorf has a skin tone. In my head he's a drab green.
Granted, I'm a white dude.
There's a difference between "stop making your bad guy look closer to minorities" and "stop using themes like light vs dark"
Like, Dark Samus are you forreal.
Also, shittin' on Ganondorf is fair game and the green skin thing is stupid semantics since the ultimate point is that Nintendo coopted some gypsy-esque imagery for his design.
I always thought Evil Ryu looked cooler too
One of the reasons why I dislike Akuma as a character. The satsui no hado magically made a Japanese guy go from yellow to brown.
They did Thailand dirty too making all their reps evil with Adon, Sagat and Bison. Atleast Sagat got a face turn.
As glad as I am that Indians are the good guys with Dhalsim and Dudley, Street Fighter is still evil minorities the video game.
Play Guilty Gear instead, y'all.
They did Thailand dirty too making all their reps evil with Adon, Sagat and Bison. Atleast Sagat got a face turn.
As glad as I am that Indians are the good guys with Dhalsim and Dudley, Street Fighter is still evil minorities the video game.
Play Guilty Gear instead, y'all.
with sf its done to differentiate
even in sfiv when they were using 3d models since ryu had this as an alt costume and looked too similar to e ryu
the most current e ryu artwork has him white
Oh no the white washing has begun
James Scott
Banned
I agree with the premise, essentially that if your hero is fair skinned/white don't make the bad guy notably darker skinned since that can internalize it at an early age.
Though it's a bit weird that all the characters shown are like 15 years old at this point.
Cia, as mentioned in the OP is a bit newer, however. Probably other examples the video could have cited
Though it's a bit weird that all the characters shown are like 15 years old at this point.
Cia, as mentioned in the OP is a bit newer, however. Probably other examples the video could have cited
panama chief
Member
Ain't that some shit.
I actually am a little disappointed that the Gerudo are not the thieves they were potrayed as in the past. Thieves don't need to be inherently evil as a concept. A dark-skinned women-only thief clan was always a very cool idea.
dmcRedgrave
Member
Ok yeah that's pretty bad.
SenkiDala
Member
Kinda tired of those false debates... "Blabla girls are stereotypes, sexy, but boys are not" (mostly not true) "blabla in RE5 you kill black persons, it's racist" (yeah because Spanish persons in RE4 was perfectly fine)...
I feel those articles are all for the buzz.
It's true we often say "black side" "dark side" as the opposite of "bright side", it's not about race... Wait, in night, it's actually dark... Are nights racists then?
A LOT of vilains are white, in fact most of them.
I feel those articles are all for the buzz.
It's true we often say "black side" "dark side" as the opposite of "bright side", it's not about race... Wait, in night, it's actually dark... Are nights racists then?
A LOT of vilains are white, in fact most of them.
CrackPebbles
Member
Yeah i've noticed this since I was a kid and still see it often, especially in Japanese games. I was gonna bring up Fire emblem but someone already pointed that out.
cr0w
Old Member
Are you aware of the Jungian concept of the shadow self?
Dude, for all intents or purposes he is supposed to be dark-skinned as he is a Gerudo. Again, why should his skin colour be green again?
Napalm_Frank
Member
We need more scottish villains aside from Ganondorf.
Icyflamez96
Member
Lol this made me laugh. I didn't know that.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Compared to the rest of the lions, yes.
Yeah but its scar from the damn lion king..... in Africa lol
EatinOlives
Member
Compared to the rest of the lions, yes.
He looks italian to me and i'm italian.
From the picture the user posted, the mans skin is grey. I don't understand how this is an issue.
HellforLeather
Member
reaching...reaching real hard.
I don't know but it is in the game
The badass brown desert people. What's the problem?
finally, a good example
surely this will stop the "dumb coloreds will complain about anything" posts
CrackPebbles
Member
"most villains are white"
That's probably because most characters in games are white. Period. Doesn't change the fact that this happens far too often. I can't even list all the times as a kid i'd play a game and the only character with darker skin like mine was either a villain or generic enemy.
That's probably because most characters in games are white. Period. Doesn't change the fact that this happens far too often. I can't even list all the times as a kid i'd play a game and the only character with darker skin like mine was either a villain or generic enemy.
Weltall Zero
Member
To quote myself:
Cia is a ridiculously sexualized character design, which is not something I expected to say of a Zelda character. This is sexist per se, but bundling evil, sexualized and black together frankly makes it pretty embarrassing. She even has a "non-evil" costume that is more modest... and makes her skin light.
The ones that everyone else views as thieves, pirates, and are scared of?
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