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Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
If i were to make a list of things that make a great fighting game, ki would have none of them but it still somehow manages to be amazingly fun. Probably because of how different it is compared to every other fighter ever.
Mortimer Brewster
Member
Watch it be a Killer Instinct themed mini game in MicrosoftLand Only for Kinect.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Will always remember going to a local arcade, and seeing Killer Instinct for the first time.
Damn, was that looking good.
They could still do a good fighter out of what it had on characters and lore.
But I somehow worry, if contemporary RARE gets to do this new game....
Damn, was that looking good.
They could still do a good fighter out of what it had on characters and lore.
But I somehow worry, if contemporary RARE gets to do this new game....
IOnEI Falcon
Member
I don't know how likely it is but if there is a KI game coming out, if Rare isn't developing it Starfire Studios could be working on it perhaps?
http://www.starfirestudios.co.uk/about-us
Their first game was a MS exclusive and Chris Tilston was the Lead Designer and Gameplay Programmer for the Killer Instinct series.
http://www.starfirestudios.co.uk/about-us
Their first game was a MS exclusive and Chris Tilston was the Lead Designer and Gameplay Programmer for the Killer Instinct series.
PIMPBYBLUD
Member
At this point just give me KI 1/2 in HD on XBLA and I'll be happy.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Why do people have to be such Debbie Downers regarding Rare nowadays?
In Rare/M$ I trust.
In Rare/M$ I trust.
gaming_noob
Member
Ultras were great, but Ultimate was the way to go!
The first time I pulled off an Ultimate was by accident... the voice over seemed so subtle in comparison to "Ultraaaa" but more of a brooding/evil sound.
Eh, manual Ultra combos at the arcade was the shit.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Rare probably has less faith in Rare then you do lol.
No. Keep 4J away from old Rare properties. They botched the fuck out of the Perfect Dark port.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
What's wrong with the PD port? The only issues I had with it was the input lag for online Co-op.
NeoGIF
Member
Dat Orchid!
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Screw you guys. I enjoy KI, and it holds up just fine for me. Sure, it's not a tournament-quality game but I find it fun to play.
I'm hoping for XBLA releases of 1+2, mainly.
I'm hoping for XBLA releases of 1+2, mainly.
So it will be like the original then, gotcha.
daninthemix
Member
Agree with you completely on both points.
Mortimer Brewster
Member
Killer Instinct wasn't even that good in the glory days of Rare with all its top tier talent.
Its not that it wasn't that good, its more like it was terrible. A new KI would be a disaster.
Ironchef3500
Banned
Jesus, am I the only one who enjoyed the shit out of killer instinct in the arcades???!! :O
And this opinion is based on a game that came out almost 20 years ago.
Makes sense. The game would obviously be exactly the same!
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
In all the SoCal arcades (in the 90's), it was a flop. One Family Fun (actual name) actually had free sessions quite often.
Why do I have the feeling that people posting in this thread never played the game at all when it came out? PoserGAF in full effect as usual
Killer instinct's impact in the arcade was gigantic. It made every other fighting game feel 'old' and primitive. The linups were huge and emptied the *sf2*, mk2 and neogeo cabs. It even manage to seriously take away from the thunder of the release of MK3 which came out a bit after, which THE arcade franchise at the time. VF2 was seriously hurt by it too. I remember that it came out at around the same
Fans are always bugging Ed Boon everyday about a KI vs MK game, so the franchise still has a following.
Of course the fighting engine feels primitive now, but back then it was pretty damn neat. I think the lore and characters need a refresh, they REALLY REALLY smells of the '90.
Killer instinct's impact in the arcade was gigantic. It made every other fighting game feel 'old' and primitive. The linups were huge and emptied the *sf2*, mk2 and neogeo cabs. It even manage to seriously take away from the thunder of the release of MK3 which came out a bit after, which THE arcade franchise at the time. VF2 was seriously hurt by it too. I remember that it came out at around the same
Fans are always bugging Ed Boon everyday about a KI vs MK game, so the franchise still has a following.
Of course the fighting engine feels primitive now, but back then it was pretty damn neat. I think the lore and characters need a refresh, they REALLY REALLY smells of the '90.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Gigantic is as hyperbolic as I've read. I frequented many arcades across Southern California a lot in the 80's and 90's. It was terrible and most around me agreed. It never earned its money back and as I said, was basically allowed to be played free at one arcade I visited often.
You may as well scrap most of the characters as they weren't that good. As you said, scrap it. Keep the name and try and sell it on whatever appeal it may have.
Takamura-San
Member
What? I'm sorry but the only Gigantic thing about KI was the cabinet.
Some issues were patched later, but
- Releasing it with the original control scheme nowhere to be found, which is like re-releasing Street Fighter without a separate kick button. Even Halo and CoD have a Perfect Dark control scheme option. Didn't even have lefty swap either, which is a standard FPS feature (and an option you can set as default in the dashboard). Was eventually patched back in, although it's still broken for zooming and quick-weapon selection
- Online multiplayer only allowed to to search for games by yourself. The only way to go in as a party was to be in the same box. You had to all start search at the same time and hope you ended up in the same game. You were better off in private games.
- In private online games, you cannot select the team you are on, nor can the host assign teams. You can only select prefabbed (random) teams or configurations like Humans Vs Bots. WHY. (You can select and assign teams in offline/splitscreen games like the original game)
This the team options online:
Switch the lobby to local and suddenly you can actually select teams:
wat
- Hey, we have a first person shooter that a lot of people wish they could have LANned back in the day. Let's omit LAN completely.
- Can't use cheats for private games online. If you want to play with infinite ammo no reloads or infinite laptop turret ammo, you can only do it in splitscreen. No DK mode, no Hurricane Fists, etc for online play.
I'll give them credit for cool stuff like counter-op matchmaking, the splitscreen option for online co-op (sounds strange, but it's a feature I really like and thought it was cool for them to include as an option, really helpful in coordinating speedruns) but otherwise, keep 4J away from porting Rare games ever again plz
Wonko_C
Member
I know this is an unpopular opinion but I loved the franchise because of the unique combo system. KI 1 maybe not so much because it was a turtler's paradise: matches were reduced to the two players crouching for hours doing nothing because the defense system was practically "free parrying" from SF3. The combo system was convoluted because knowing which button continued the combo was totally arbitrary and restrictive.
The combo system became more logical in Killer Instinct 2 with the Opener--->lower strenght button for auto-double--->linker--->lower strength button for auto-double--->finisher, while still having some leeway for manual combos and juggles. And most of them were ground-based combos, not this pinball shit from UMVC3 (don't get me wrong, I like Marvel).
The combo breakers were simplified from "getting lucky guessing which one of the 6 buttons breaks the combo" to "break it with punch or kick depending on which one did the opponent used", which lead to some great mind games. And the defense was fixed so no more turtling.
KI2 on the arcades even had multiple endings per character depending on who you spared and who you killed. (Sadly absent in KI Gold for N64)
The combo system became more logical in Killer Instinct 2 with the Opener--->lower strenght button for auto-double--->linker--->lower strength button for auto-double--->finisher, while still having some leeway for manual combos and juggles. And most of them were ground-based combos, not this pinball shit from UMVC3 (don't get me wrong, I like Marvel).
The combo breakers were simplified from "getting lucky guessing which one of the 6 buttons breaks the combo" to "break it with punch or kick depending on which one did the opponent used", which lead to some great mind games. And the defense was fixed so no more turtling.
KI2 on the arcades even had multiple endings per character depending on who you spared and who you killed. (Sadly absent in KI Gold for N64)
sixteen-bit
Member
If this results in an actual arcade-perfect home version of KI, good.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
If all we get out of this is arcade-perfect ports of KI1 and KI2 on XBLA, then it'll be worth it.
I know of a Play N' Trade in Jensen Beach that has a KI1 cab set to free play, but I don't want to drive 45 minutes to relive some of my childhood.
I know of a Play N' Trade in Jensen Beach that has a KI1 cab set to free play, but I don't want to drive 45 minutes to relive some of my childhood.
MightyHedgehog
Member
You'd think they could have had a better photocopy than that. Looking forward to an eventual KI HD collection and maybe even a new game. I enjoy the craziness of KI absurdity.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Are people trying to claim that KI wasn't a massive hit when it came out?
Talk about revisionist history.
Talk about revisionist history.
atomic moth
Member
I think I was too busy playing Mk2 in the arcade to remember playing the KI cabinet, but I do remember almost every one of my friends having that black SNES copy.
I'm sure someone can find numbers on how well it did.
I'm sure someone can find numbers on how well it did.
Not on this fighting game IP, anyways.Don't waste a development team on a fighting game
Syphon Filter
Member
SentientStone
Member
One of the few thing that will get me to get a 720 at launch. MS has a new customer if the can do this in as good quality as the MK reboot.
Diddy Kong
Banned
Yup
SF2, KOF and Samurai Showdown was still far better than that shitty mash up of Street fighter and MK with it's "Dial a combo" crap( then MK felt the need to rip off that aspect in 3 for some reason). Don't even get me started on the awful character designs, which was a shame since for the most part at the time it had excellent graphics but Rare's art design killed it. Still many of my friends loved the game, i wasn't feeling it at all.
If KI is truly making a comeback it would need a massive overhaul for me to give a shit. Rare/MS should just handle the graphics aspects and hire someone like DIMPS to work on anything that has to do with gameplay and for the love of all that's holy hire a decent character designer!
IdreamofHIME
Member
There's definitely some KI game coming, no way would MS chase this down and spend money just to keep the patent in the archives.
gaming_noob
Member
Most useless comments in Rare threads belong to Diddy Kong.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Mk3 and KIs combo systems were completely different.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I certainly hope so. We need a good beat 'em experience up on the market.
Yeah, it wouldn't fly in a lot of threads. Gotta love the stupid "Kinect" jokes too.
I absolutely loved Killer Instinct in the Arcades (and the poor console ports..lol). I would be all over HD remakes or a sort of "Ultimate Killer Instinct" with all the old characters and some new ones.
Of course I would like a new Perfect Dark and JFG too. Heck, I want a new Conker and Banjo to go with it too. I'll take any GOOD/AAA remake/sequel at launch. I suspect RARE is working on Perfect Dark...just based on who they have hired.
Impeccable
Member
If people didn't the thread would be dead
Truth be told my memory of KI was fun for a day then I hated it because I sucked at it.