brandonh83
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Mediocre... lol jesus
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Michael Giacchino posts Clip from Spider-Man Homecoming OST -> Classic Theme
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peanutbutterlatte
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Didn't blow me away but it's nice, what irritates me more is people saying Tyler Bates' Guardians or Silvestri's Avengers themes aren't memorable. Not memorable to you. Not to you.
peanutbutterlatte
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You can post clever analytical videos all you like man, the themes are very, very memorable to me
I walked out of the theatre humming Avengers. That's the test of thumb really. Can't recall a time I did that since Harry Potter.
All of Silvestri's themes for the MCU are fantastic. He is such a varied composer that he should have done the scores to all of the films.
Tyler Bates' theme for Guardians is ok, but major props for using it again in Vol. 2. That's the kind of consistency that the MCU needs in its scores.
I like both themes.. but both sound way too similar. I constantly confuse the two.
TheSecondSpitter
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I'm still bitter the word "un-glamorous" has been used in MCU.
ComputerBlue
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A cover of classic theme doesn't make it good. I don't have faith in this movie, decent composer but generic template everything when it comes to MCU and I expect the score to follow that template.
The only time a marvel movie had a great and memorable soundtrack start to finish was Elfman's SM. Horners was okay, but nothing special. Even Zimmer's SM sucked.
Guardians and Elfmans SM are the only memorable themes for me.
I saw this a while back and while I agree with the video that the MCU soundtracks are extremely generic, there's a problem with this video. They're asking people to hum themes from 3 extremely popular movie franchises that have been around for a long time. Ask those same people to hum the theme from Forrest Gump, it's very memorable, I can hum it, but I bet the average person on the street can't.
The only time a marvel movie had a great and memorable soundtrack start to finish was Elfman's SM. Horners was okay, but nothing special. Even Zimmer's SM sucked.
Guardians and Elfmans SM are the only memorable themes for me.
I saw this a while back and while I agree with the video that the MCU soundtracks are extremely generic, there's a problem with this video. They're asking people to hum themes from 3 extremely popular movie franchises that have been around for a long time. Ask those same people to hum the theme from Forrest Gump, it's very memorable, I can hum it, but I bet the average person on the street can't.
Bobby Roberts
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If I remember correctly,it's the assault on Death Star II.
Glass Rebel
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Ask someone to hum the Inception theme and they'll do the brrrraaa from mind heist.
Ergo, Inception has a crappy soundtrack and Hans Zimmer is a hack.
My very scientific methodology says so.
Ergo, Inception has a crappy soundtrack and Hans Zimmer is a hack.
My very scientific methodology says so.
WrenchNinja
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MCU music I'll actually remember
Fancyarcher
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In regards to MCU, I think the first Cap score is fairly solid, but if you're gonna go back, then I'd argued both the first two Punisher scores and Howard The Duck (yes) have legit scores I would consider great. X-Men 3 has also a superb epic score, & X-Men: Apocalypse's score was very good as well.
And in regards to the Gump thing, most people wouldn't remember most music outside of the main themes for franchises because they hear it over & over again. The MCU has music but they have intentionally terrible continuity when it comes to keeping their themes around. It's why I find the Every Frame a Painting video to be very flawed.
As far as forgotten MCU films go, Ant-Man also has a pretty solid score.
Even the music shrinks and gains size. Its fun listen to because its actually a smart soundtrack
Fancyarcher
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Well I wouldn't consider Ant-Man forgotten exactly, I mean they are making a sequel.
I wouldn't consider it great, but it has a fun theme & a decent secondary theme as well. Yeah, it's pretty solid. Hopefully Beck doesn't get replaced on the sequel, otherwise the main theme will probably be tossed aside, which would be a bummer.
Kind of a terrible example because Time is super memorable.
Fancyarcher
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Personally I'd like the winter soldier score more if the winters soldier theme didn't irritate the heck out of me. Taking A Last Stand is fine.
Great? No. But when your competition is Iron Man 1-3, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Thor 2 and so on?
(Some film music critics like the Brian Tyler scores but I can't stand him.)
Think his point is that you go up to a random person like in the much posted video you'll find that people typically don't remember shit. I couldn't recall Time for you and I love that movie.
I don't agree with your opinions on the Star Trek score - I think it's the best score in Star Trek film history and one of the most memorable scores in event films over the last ten years - but I will say this for Michael Giacchino: He completely outdid every TV show ever with his LOST score.
This video is such a joke, it's terrible that people have given it such credence. Really, the only response here should be to laugh at it.
brandonh83
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You mean average joes who don't give a shit about this stuff didn't pay attention or cared about a film score? You don't say!
What did he mean by this?
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There's a Guardians theme? Legit didnt know, unless its Hooked on a Feeling
Them horns, though.
You mean average joes who don't give a shit about this stuff didn't pay attention or cared about a film score? You don't say!
Among other things...
PeakPointMatrix
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It's no Elfman/Raimi theme, that's for sure. I mean it's the classic original theme rearranged, so cool? Don't see how it's mindblowing or anything though.
Fancyarcher
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Great? No. But when your competition is Iron Man 1-3, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Thor 2 and so on?
(Some film music critics like the Brian Tyler scores but I can't stand him.)
It's a good score & I prefer it to Tyler's efforts overall, although I do like parts of Iron Man 3 myself.Tyler's music at least when it comes to his blockbuster efforts often feels a bit too RCish for my tastes (though I'm sure that's not entirely his choice).
It's crazy that this is even better than the MCU's best offerings. The Simpsons Movie had a surprisingly great score considering people expected nothing out of it.
Apparently Williams was pretty thoroughly pissed off at his score getting hacked up. Some folks have thought he put less effort into AOTC's score because he was still annoyed over them cutting up his TPM score.
Then of course they cut the AOTC score he wrote up again anyway.
Bobby Roberts
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What's wrong with it? I'm a huge MCU fanboy but the music has never really been a big part of why I like the movies so much, it's pretty much just kinda...there.
Listened to it once, hated it.
Listened to it again, kinda liked it. Still, nowhere near as good as the original Spider-man movie theme.
Of course, being able to hum from memory isn't the be all, end all of good music, but even beyond that I don't remember ever thinking that the music is particularly good in a Marvel movie, outside of licensed songs.
Listened to it again, kinda liked it. Still, nowhere near as good as the original Spider-man movie theme.
What's wrong with it? MCU has pretty boring and unmemorable original soundtracks, and I think the video explores why that is quite well and provides interesting insight to film scores.
Of course, being able to hum from memory isn't the be all, end all of good music, but even beyond that I don't remember ever thinking that the music is particularly good in a Marvel movie, outside of licensed songs.
SEGAvangelist
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So generic. Movie composers are so bad lately. Much better composition in video games these days.
Bobby Roberts
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Interestingly, Giacchino is also one of the best composers in video game history, too.
Ascenion
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Eh, Silvestri was bested by Elfman in this instance. New Avengers from Age of Ultron is the definitive theme imo, plus Elfman has elements of Silvestri in there. Also Captain America March is the GOAT MCU theme and it isn't debatable.
MagnaderAlpha
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Hans Zimmer's decade of ultra memorable scores/soundtracks will be the 90s. I look back at all the movies he scored back then and, holy HELL, mostly ALL of them are filled to the brim with memorable, iconic melodies.
Fancyarcher
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My problems with this video are...
It's an incredibly selective amount of people. The average person on the street doesn't remember themes beyond those used in regular film series.
Temp-tracking is not a huge "problem" unless the producers falls in love said temp-track and doesn't let the composer do his own thing with it. Star Wars was temp tracked to hell (Gustav Holst, anyone) so that shouldn't really be a main concern with Marvel music in general.
Marvel's overall music problem, aside from the fact that Hollywood is allergic to memorable themes these days, is that the actual themes are barely re-used within the same series so it's hard to really remember or get a familiarity with said themes, when they have little chance to be developed or built upon, especially when it comes to musical continuity. Imagine if the Salkinds were so pissed about Williams deciding not to return for Superman II, that they asked Ken Thorne to dump his original theme & compose something entirely different. Would Williams theme be as iconic? Maybe not! The MCU is supposed to be a big interconnected film universe, musically it's an absolutely goddamn mess.
I hope this post helps. The problems of the MCU & memorable music can really just go back to modern music in general, however that does not mean it is the only issue with Marvel's use of score music. They dump themes like there's no tomorrow, regardless of whether or not they're actually memorable.
That's uh, wow. Yikes.
Tears in my eyes. Please don't disappoint me film.
Movie composers are so bad lately?
Ha. You watching 2 blockbusters a year or something?
The Elite
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I really love his work with some of the classic Mission: Impossible tv themes as well. Love how he incorporates some of that old stuff into the films.
Ugh, whoever thinks film music should not be noticed SUCKS. But it's absolutely a prominent thing these days. It's even hitting video games as a result, too.
Music is extremely important to me, so memorable music and themes can boost my feelings for a film BIG TIME. This video does a good job showing how even some of the good themes in the MCU films are played more as background music rather than the focus of a scene, and that's painful to watch.
There is only one scene in the entire MCU, imo, that fucking NAILS IT, and it's right here, and it's a memorable scene and memorable piece of music as a result.
That's pretty sad considering just how many MCU films there have been, and how many opportunities they've had. I can think of one example. And I fucking adore these films and characters.
Glass Rebel
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Even when they have something positive to say about the MCU I can't fuck with Snyder fanboys' opionions. 🤔🤔🤔
CosmicGroinPull
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I have no strong attachment to the classic theme (huh spiderman has a classic theme?) so my reaction is 'eh'.