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The Kiseki / Trails (of the Sky/Zero/Ao/Sen/Etc) Community Thread: SPOILERTAGS OR DIE
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R_thanatos
Member
Where to go to discuss Kiseki ? I guess i'll need a discord invite guys !
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
Same here. I'd appreciate the invite if it's possible.
Evoker1995
Member
I would greatly appreciate an invite as well! Thanks!
I echo this sentiment.
klabautermann
Member
Wouldn't mind an invite as well, thanks!
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Got discord set up, shoot me an invite on "SatelliteOfLove" please.
Arcana Wiz
Member
I would like an invite too. I been mostly a lurker but i always liked to visit once a while this OT.
When Neogaf was closed this community was the one i missed the most since i wouldnt know where to find other Kiseki fans
When Neogaf was closed this community was the one i missed the most since i wouldnt know where to find other Kiseki fans
Shouta
Member
After stewing on Sen III a bit since I completed my playthrough, this game probably ranks pretty high on my overall list within the series as whole. It's above Sen 2 but below Ao and Zero.
It has its problems at times but I feel like they've really polished what they built in the first two games and made a pretty great one. I sort of wish the story developed wasn't so back-heavy but it really makes the end pretty wild.
Mind you, I rate the games based on story and gameplay, lol.
It has its problems at times but I feel like they've really polished what they built in the first two games and made a pretty great one. I sort of wish the story developed wasn't so back-heavy but it really makes the end pretty wild.
Mind you, I rate the games based on story and gameplay, lol.
NoctisCaelum
Member
is this a different discord channel from the subreddit?
purseowner
Member
If someone could send me a Discord link on Twitter (@nonarylame), that'd be much appreciated.
Love you all.
Love you all.
The one being sent out in here is a different one.
You might just be the only (ex)mod that posts on this forum after everything. Anyway, I heard similar impression from a lot of people. Glad Falcom put their shit together.
Shouta
Member
Yeah, I'm probably the only ex-mod posting regularly. This has been like home to me as I've been around getting close to 20 years now? I was one of the mods before it became Neo. Gonna hang out and see where things go, if it doesn't work out, I'll gravitate to where I can get discussion in this format.
Anyway, I definitely hope they can provide a final Sen game that really delivers. They have all of it there so I really want then to break the mold with the structure like they did with Ao a bit by focusing on different concepts, at least as I recall, in each chapter as they move towards the finale.
Gameplay definitely needs a difficulty boost or I'm just gonna okay nightmare right away. Hard was super easy this time.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Regardless of what's happened, Falcom discussion's getting stronger across forums, BBSes, and imageboards alike. I'd be glad to see this NeoGAF thread continue even if many of us prefer another platform.
The best thing I can say with certainty about Sen III is Falcom's brought back Vantage Master, even if just for a mini-game slot. More people ought to learn about VM Online and help us
build a playership of sorts.
The best thing I can say with certainty about Sen III is Falcom's brought back Vantage Master, even if just for a mini-game slot. More people ought to learn about VM Online and help us
figure out how to connect and play online
Really? I got the impression that Sen 3 is actually hard. I think Famitsu review also mentioned that. I wonder how long it will take for this game to get localized.
Shouta
Member
Well, I might be a bit more experienced than most but I found Hard a cakewalk. The new order system, sub-master quartz, break system, and revamped quartz really put a lot of power in the hands of the player. You could destroy enemies very fast abd take minimal damage if done right
In particular, the new Scorpio quartz is ridiculous. It increases the damage you do to enemies when they're in break status so all you have to do is get them there and go to town the proper brave orders and crafts it attacks.
NoctisCaelum
Member
can I get an invite as well?
Shouta
Member
I was looking at the timeline for the series in regards to Sen III and where it puts us for the next game. A bit of speculation and Sen III spoilers, of course.
I'm tired so it's half rambling but I'm really excited for Sen IV even more so after thinking about the stuff in Sen III, lol
Considering that the game ends in July of 1206 and the liberation of Crossbell is, at some point, in 1207, I fully a expect another time skip of 5-6 months with Rean and Valimar mk2 to be imprisoned the entire time so as not to interfere with what the Gnomes and Ouroboros are up to. This will allow the various players still within the story to set up what will happen with Erebonia.
What that entails is a mystery, obviously. However, we do know that the situation in Erebonia became unstable enough for Crossbell to push back the Empire and declare themselves independent. The other possibility is that the Empire had to withdraw from Crossbell which seems like the potential outcome to me.
Considering all of the foreshadowing, Sen IV might have an all out war there with Calvard which will lead to Crossbell independence. It makes the most sense considering all of the huge train cannons and the building they were doing at Tangram gate in the game. Then the question becomes will it be Calvard pushing the Empire back or will it be internal strife that causes Erebonia to retreat? The questions. If it's the former, I wonder what kind of forces would Calvard have to do that when Erebonia has Panzer Soldats.
Then there's the movements of the Gralsritter. It seems like they'll have a big part to play in Sen IV considering the curse has spread so far.
What that entails is a mystery, obviously. However, we do know that the situation in Erebonia became unstable enough for Crossbell to push back the Empire and declare themselves independent. The other possibility is that the Empire had to withdraw from Crossbell which seems like the potential outcome to me.
Considering all of the foreshadowing, Sen IV might have an all out war there with Calvard which will lead to Crossbell independence. It makes the most sense considering all of the huge train cannons and the building they were doing at Tangram gate in the game. Then the question becomes will it be Calvard pushing the Empire back or will it be internal strife that causes Erebonia to retreat? The questions. If it's the former, I wonder what kind of forces would Calvard have to do that when Erebonia has Panzer Soldats.
Then there's the movements of the Gralsritter. It seems like they'll have a big part to play in Sen IV considering the curse has spread so far.
I'm tired so it's half rambling but I'm really excited for Sen IV even more so after thinking about the stuff in Sen III, lol
I'd love to see a new release of Vantage Master on Steam and GOG.
Such an cool game. (Also, it was hard as hell, for what I remember)
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Realistically, the best way XSEED could repackage and release VM on digital distribution would be to provide a far more compatible way to play online. IPv4 TCP/IP play just doesn't work decent (if it all even with Hamachi or another VPN) on modern Windows, let alone other OSes. But that might be a fool's errand depending on how the game's programmed. It'd be easier to extract the game assets and make a play-by-email webgame at this point. Getting a proper English TL of the campaign story and menus would make my day, though, and I hope we at least get fan patches for VM V2 (+ VM Japan at some point) and then the Lord Monarch games up through Monarch Monarch.
Vantage Master Online is V2. It's the original game that remains untranslated.
Yes, I was referring to V2, english language and freeware too! Glorious Falcom!
(I don't find the game website anymore, HG101 seems to have deleted its article in the process of changing site)
Shouta
Member
So, it turns out using the Vita TV to stream Ao no Kiseki Evolution isn't too shabby. It's gotten my motivation to play the game to go up as a result. I've had it for ages but didn't get around to it since I had finished Ao not that long before Evo came out. It's also nice to use a
PS3 controller again, lol.
I did notice something pretty interesting right away though.
I lost my save data from when I did Zero Evo though so I might consider going through that quick to get a file to transfer over to Ao Evo if I do stream it.
PS3 controller again, lol.
I did notice something pretty interesting right away though.
In the prologue, they're talking about the medications that were used in Zero being Azure color but there was mention of a more powerful version being red/crimson colored, I think. I was only skimming the dialogue so I'd need to go over it again but I thought that was sorta of interesting in light of what we know from Sen III!
I lost my save data from when I did Zero Evo though so I might consider going through that quick to get a file to transfer over to Ao Evo if I do stream it.
JohannCK
Member
Hey there, my review for Sen 3 has gone up on Frontline Gaming Japan.
I actually wrote this right after clearing the game last year but then the site's launch got delayed and we decided on spacing out reviews since none of the ones we had queued would be fresh anyway.
The review is based on my first run through the game which was an attempt at getting 100% and S-ranks for everything; Unfortunately I missed a couple of profile updates to characters (turns out Kenneth Lakelord hangs out in a cabin outside of the town for a few days and that's where you get his updates) but otherwise did everything else; Got all the books and recipes, defeated the superboss, etc.
I plan on taking a week or two off when 4 is out to marathon it.
I actually wrote this right after clearing the game last year but then the site's launch got delayed and we decided on spacing out reviews since none of the ones we had queued would be fresh anyway.
The review is based on my first run through the game which was an attempt at getting 100% and S-ranks for everything; Unfortunately I missed a couple of profile updates to characters (turns out Kenneth Lakelord hangs out in a cabin outside of the town for a few days and that's where you get his updates) but otherwise did everything else; Got all the books and recipes, defeated the superboss, etc.
I plan on taking a week or two off when 4 is out to marathon it.
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NovumAngel
Banned
Nice review, good to see there are still Trails fans left here.
Can I ask roughly how long it took you to complete your first run?
JohannCK
Member
Going in completely blind and trying to do everything (talking to all NPCs, etc) clocked in at just a bit below 100 hours, IIRC.
NovumAngel
Banned
Lots of new info up for Cold Steel IV, as expected it's a minefield of spoilers.
Sharon's new outfit is pretty questionable...
https://gematsu.com/2018/05/the-leg...rologue-alisa-reinford-and-related-characters
Sharon's new outfit is pretty questionable...
https://gematsu.com/2018/05/the-leg...rologue-alisa-reinford-and-related-characters