Damn, and there's no way to stream here in Britain either. I'm gonna have go on a major blackout next week then as I won't be able to watch any of it until at least next weekend. Sometimes I wish TV didn't exist so executives would finally realize that the internet doesn't just exist in America.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 Premieres May 21 - 2 Hour Premiere
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Damn, and there's no way to stream here in Britain either. I'm gonna have go on a major blackout next week then as I won't be able to watch any of it until at least next weekend. Sometimes I wish TV didn't exist so executives would finally realize that the internet doesn't just exist in America.
I would vote for using spoiler tags for discussion of parts 3 & 4 until they officially air on May 28th.
Well to me it makes sense to keep 3 and 4 spoilers tagged to be courteous, but considering they'll be out it'll technically be fair game?
They won't be available in certain territories. I think I saw that UK viewers have to wait until the 28th, for example.
CrichtonKicks
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I was initially suprised by that answer but I kind of imagine that Mark Frost was probably the keeper of the lore, as it were, anyway since that's what he did on the original show. I can imagine it Frost was probably the one who may have had to remind Lynch of smaller details, if relevant, from the original.
Puck Beaverton
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Man rewatching this series makes me want to play Deadly Premonition again
All four episodes up 2pm Monday.
Waylon Drums
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I'm hoping we get more Invitation to Love during this season.
Me too. I really missed that in season 2.
There are some characters I really despise going into the second season. And I don't mean they're bad people, I mean they're awful characters that I want off the screen. This shut-in botanist is the fucking worst and oh great, Josie's back. Show's certainly not without its flaws.
Zombie James
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Oh, keep going.
Puck Beaverton
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On one hand, Josie isn't great.
On the other hand, she's hot.
On the other hand, she's hot.
Wow, that's pretty good. Probably gonna hold off on 3 and 4 still at least for a bit. Having a week off would be torture.
CrichtonKicks
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That was evidently a Mark Frost thing that Lynch wasn't a big fan of. Don't get your hopes up.
Wtf the shut in was great and had one of the saddest stories in the show
This is the only fair way to do it. Unmarked discussion for eps 1 and 2, but 3 and 4 have to be behind black bars for a week.
Yeah, I don't think I can watch 4 hours in one day and then wait two weeks for another hour.
I'm the opposite. If there's new Twin Peaks to watch, there's no way I can resist watching it immediately.
Depending on how episode 2 ends... I may be the same.
I think 4 hours of whatever it is going to be will give us plenty to talk for two weeks.
It's like the feeling when you're binge watching a show at two or three episodes a day and then catch up and have to wait. Also known as the most dire of first world problems.
Man with Knife
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I'm just glad all the episodes are finished this time, because this might flop harder than a Barca football player. I don't know if a younger audience cares about this show at all, it's probably just the die hards.
wanderingprostheyltite
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lol ain't that the truth. If there was ever a show season I wanted to be released Netflix/Amazon style its this one, especially considering its one big film! Not really sure if that makes it good for binging or not though. Very curious how the pacing will feel for the different parts. Will it be consistent like the original run, or a mix of that and more experimental, avant garde parts?
31GhostsIV
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In The Secret History,
we learn of the existence of Harry's brother, Frank.
Episode titles for the first 8.Doesn't spoil anything to be honest but I'll tag them anyway:
Part 1: My log has a message for you.
Part 2: The stars turn and a time presents itself.
Part 3: Call for help.
Part 4: ...brings back some memories.
Part 5: Case files.
Part 6: Don't die.
Part 7: There's a body all right.
Part 8: Gotta light?
Part 2: The stars turn and a time presents itself.
Part 3: Call for help.
Part 4: ...brings back some memories.
Part 5: Case files.
Part 6: Don't die.
Part 7: There's a body all right.
Part 8: Gotta light?
If they released all 18 hours at once, it would be very unhealthy for me.
Airola
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They knew about continuing the show for a second season just some days before the last episode of season 1 was aired. Mark Frost said they had even shot a different ending to the last episode so that if the series don't continue they could have a diffent ending to it (he said it in the Donahue show which can be watched on Youtube).
The last episode of season 1 aired in May 23rd.
The second season started in September 30th.
There would've been roughly 4 months to write and film 22 episodes.
Not sure if that could've been possible.
Anyways, you can read scripts for most of the episodes here:
http://www.glastonberrygrove.net/texts/
You can find the dates of the scripts there too.
The first episode of season 2 had its final(?) version done in July 24, 1990 (the episode was aired in September 30, 1990).
The last episode of season 2 had its final(?) version done in February 28, 1991 (the episode was aired in June 10, 1991).
So, yeah they made it during the airing of the episodes.
wanderingprostheyltite
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You'd need the sting of the 48 hour blend to get through that
New NY Times article
Apparently I'm not the only one that got that timeline wrong (Wild At Heart screened at Cannes before season one finished airing).
Airola
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Yeah, apparently Lynch himself claims he was busy with Wild at Heart while season 2 was being made while it can't be possible.
Maybe he's just old
Generally GAF policy is that open spoilers are fair game once it has aired in a territory if I'm not mistaken. Happens all the time with foreign shows for Americans and vice versa. I don't think this is that different.
But yeah, personally I'd prefer if people don't go and spoil things.
Yeah, but it didn't have a wide release until August 1990, so he potentially could have been busy with promotion and distribution while Season 2 was being written and filmed.
wanderingprostheyltite
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edit: This was said by Madchen on Last Call with Carson Daly last night:
Interesting. Also what does everyone think of neither Frost nor Lynch going back for a refresher of the old seasons when approaching the writing of the new one? Frost said season 2 finale events were a springboard for continuity but little else. Would explain continuity issues in the book. With that Madchen quote wondering if we're dealing with a different timeline entirely.
Interesting. Also what does everyone think of neither Frost nor Lynch going back for a refresher of the old seasons when approaching the writing of the new one? Frost said season 2 finale events were a springboard for continuity but little else. Would explain continuity issues in the book. With that Madchen quote wondering if we're dealing with a different timeline entirely.
BenjaminBirdie
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What's this from?
Sounds like this season will drive those trying to put a continuity together absolutely insane.
I'm down for whatever Lynch and Frost wanted to make.
CrichtonKicks
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Eh, it's a bunch of BS.
Lynch was more involved with the first part of the second season than he was with Season 1. If any period was effected by Lynch being distracted by Wild at Heart it would have been the first season.
With the second season, he personally directed 4 of the first 8 hours of the second season and had a major acting role in another episode. All of that was happening during the direct lead up and release of Wild at Heart. And a lot of the season's worst subplots were being seeded in those early episodes when he was still actively involved.
I think he just got frustrated with the network demands during the first start of Season 2 and stepped away as soon as he could. Reading interviews with the cast from the time it seems many of them, including MacLachlan, felt betrayed that he left them high and dry. I've been reading the Essential Wrapped in Plastic and much of the cast is incredibly frank about how awful the material they had was and how frustrated they were that Frost/Lynch were no where to be found. I think he has been packaging this Wild at Heart excuse over the years as a way to avoid taking personal responsibility.
Personally, I think Mark Frost's absence was the bigger issue. He was the guy who was actually experienced at running a TV show day to day and he was off making a movie during most of Season 2 and arguably had less involvement than Lynch. Peyton and Engels seemed to become the default showrunners and neither seemed experienced enough to handle it.
What I found truly bizarre is that evidently Lynch was a part of the interview process for casting Ted Raimi in the throwaway role as one of
Earle's
NY Times interview posted earlier
Wow, didn't expect Madchen could give info like that away
Shits not gonna be straightforward that's for sure. Being honest, the only thing I hope they don't completely ignore that I'm worried they might is Annie.
plagiarize
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Well... I think she's just being extra cautious.
But that said, I fully expect Walter Owmylegkneeian to be playing someone new, because there's no way I can fathom that a 25 years older Jacques would show up as a spirit or in the lodge, and I can't fathom how exactly he'd still be alive either.
I mean, unless with makeup he can still pass as 25 years younger. Maybe they're going to paint him as one of Bob's victims? Hard to say.
And as far as Mark and David not going back for a refresher... there'll have been other continuity people involved in the new series keeping an eye out for flubs, just as I'm sure there was with the book. Major changes will be intentional (if Annie truly has been retconned).
But just looking at Ben Horne's desk you sure as shit know that at least someone involved in the production went back and revisited the originals.
wanderingprostheyltite
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VistraNorrez
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So Twin Twin Peaks. Maybe the Black Lodge has spread everywhere and doppelgangers abound.
Silent Hills lives on.
There has been some cool speculation about Twin Peaks kinda becoming "locked off" from the world which could be interesting.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Good eye/point about overall continuity. Walter is an interesting pick, some speculated he had some twin running around but that'd be ridiculous unless they're plumbing the soaps well in that particular vein again. Maybe he's a doppelganger xD
BenjaminBirdie
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This
Is cited as "Kyle MacLachlan in the show. Credit Suzanne Tenner/Showtime"
Does that mean it's from the new series?? (Bolding mine)
Is cited as "Kyle MacLachlan in the show. Credit Suzanne Tenner/Showtime"
Does that mean it's from the new series?? (Bolding mine)
plagiarize
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It's not. Many many people who played characters late on in season 2 say that David was never on set, and that they had almost zero involvement with him when working on the series.
As far as those subplots, the main problem has always been, I think, that they were never meant to carry the show. The problem with the awful run of episodes is that there is no main thread. It's just a bunch of subplots... many of which are comic relief in nature. Imagine if they were contrasting something else more serious in tone, and we probably wouldn't hate them as much.
Other than the utterly dreadful Evelyn Marsh stuff, and nothing in David's episodes seeded that nightmare.
If they hadn't had to abandon their main storyline, and hadn't been forced to drop what was meant to be the major plot to follow it, there's no way the show would have followed James out of Twin Peaks and spent so much time on that shit. It never followed Josie to Seattle, or Jerry overseas. The only other place we had ever gone was up the river to One Eyed Jacks.
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