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Baleoce
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(02-16-2015, 05:52 PM)
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Brilliant OP btw
K.Sabot
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(02-16-2015, 05:59 PM)
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Alright, what an OP!
Kimosabae
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(02-16-2015, 05:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by sinxtanx

Platinum age been going for two years almost already
and we still got EVO this year

I'd say that counts as an age

It's a new era, yes. My point is that you might want to save the "Platinum" label for the actual history books, considering the game is still on a rising trajectory. "Modern Era" would suffice, were it me.
Spade
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(02-16-2015, 06:38 PM)
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Very well done OP! It's insane to look back on the last 10 years and see just how far it has all come. Exciting to think of how far it might get in the next 5+ years.
daxgame
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(02-16-2015, 06:46 PM)
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wow great work there.

All is missing is Azen vs Ken in the classics :D
Laughlin
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(02-16-2015, 06:54 PM)
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As someone who just got into competitive Smash in the past year or so this is awesome!
Nyoro SF
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(02-16-2015, 07:02 PM)
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Wonderful OP writeup, very succinct and introduces us well to the present day.

I find it extraordinary that a classic game has enough respect from its players to continue to be played long after its release.

And I'd buy a Melee HD. :P
Lucumo
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(02-16-2015, 07:54 PM)
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Not even on the first page. Damn work preventing me from posting/reading earlier.

Originally Posted by Anth0ny

The top Smash Bros. streamer is VGBootCamp. Run by GIMR, it has the highest production values of any stream in the Smash community. As a result, VGBC is usually in charge of streaming at the biggest Melee events.

I would actually disagree here. Salty Playground had everything VGBC had + insta-replays and bracket on screen + nationalities. For Apex 2015, VGBC got the insta-replays technology from the former but didn't really use it. Too bad Liva departed somewhat recently from them.
chaosblade
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(02-16-2015, 08:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lucumo

Not even on the first page. Damn work preventing me from posting/reading earlier.


I would actually disagree here. Salty Playground had everything VGBC had + insta-replays and bracket on screen + nationalities. For Apex 2015, VGBC got the insta-replays technology from the former but didn't really use it. Too bad Liva departed somewhat recently from them.

I don't know why replays weren't used more at Apex. Even at Xanadu it seems (or seemed, haven't watched since they first dropped PM streaming) like they were used a lot more. At one point they were doing one for nearly every match.
SoldnerKei
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(02-16-2015, 08:00 PM)
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seems like I'll be hanging around here too

great OP, really lovely
Lucumo
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(02-16-2015, 08:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by chaosblade

I don't know why replays weren't used more at Apex. Even at Xanadu it seems (or seemed, haven't watched since they first dropped PM streaming) like they were used a lot more. At one point they were doing one for nearly every match.

No idea. I would guess he was too busy with something else. Then again, he had only that stream. Maybe he isn't that accustomed to it?

Replays are definitely worth it to highlight cool or/and good plays.
Anth0ny
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(02-16-2015, 08:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by FSLink

Speaking of which, using Nintendont on Wii U + Gamecube adapter, is it good enough to play Melee on that instead of my GCN all the time?

I haven't tried it myself, but I read somewhere that Gamecube adapter support has been added to Nintendont, so I think it would be fine provided you have a lag free monitor!

Also, I'm taking a note of every suggestion for the OP. I'll be adding/changing stuff as soon as I get the chance!
LonelyGreyWolf
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(02-16-2015, 08:45 PM)
GIFS!



chaosblade
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(02-16-2015, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by LonelyGreyWolf

That knee->uair->wall jump knee is siiiiiiick. I want to do that.
Blackquill
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(02-16-2015, 08:52 PM)
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Great thread, didn't know the wombo combo "revived" Melee

I really want to play melee competitively but the lack of proper online play and the "poor" roster compared to Sm4sh (Greninja and Ike are my favorite characters in the series :( ), doesn't really help. And someone never give me back my Melee copy...

While I don't want a 2.0 Melee, I'm disappointed that Sm4sh took too much from Brawl but it's still me for me the best in the series because of the reasons above.
Scythesurge
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(02-16-2015, 09:01 PM)

Originally Posted by LonelyGreyWolf



If Mango actually switches to Falcon for top 8's then the gif potential might be out of control lol
K.Sabot
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(02-16-2015, 09:14 PM)
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Marginally related, but I thought Hungrybox's chat with Anthony Fantano yesterday was pretty entertaining. A lot more of it about music than smash though.
Mumei
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(02-16-2015, 09:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by LonelyGreyWolf

GIFS!

Love this. I think there's a slowed down version in that Melee documentary in the OP.
Azure J
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(02-16-2015, 09:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by chaosblade

That knee->uair->wall jump knee is siiiiiiick. I want to do that.

That isn't even the final form of wall jump Falcon combos.
chaosblade
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(02-16-2015, 10:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Azure J

That isn't even the final form of wall jump Falcon combos.

Also nice, but it's really the whole thing in the other one that gets me and not just the wall jump. That instant uair off the edge especially, just beautiful.

But uair is always beautiful.
Captain Rage Quit 69
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(02-16-2015, 10:12 PM)
BTW everyone pour one out for 20XX's latest victim, Armada.

RIP in Peaches. ;__;
Cody_D165
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(02-16-2015, 10:16 PM)
speaking of 20XX, perhaps the OP should link to the 20XX Hack Pack?

very useful and practically essential set of tools for practicing competitive Melee techniques without another player
Azure J
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(02-16-2015, 10:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Captain Rage Quit 69

BTW everyone pour one out for 20XX's latest victim, Armada.

RIP in Peaches. ;__;

I always took his comments to suggest that Peach is still his main but he's going to have a Fox for the hyperactive "I PUSH MORE FUCKING BUTTONS IN A SET THAN YOU DO AT A TOURNAMENT" level Foxes and the hard matchups he felt Peach was too slow to capitalize in optimally.

I sincerely hope Armada realizes that his character's amazing and at least keeps her as his namesake.
Scythesurge
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(02-16-2015, 10:21 PM)
I fully support 20xx Hack Pack being in the OP, I've recently been addicted to it and I think it's a great training resource with or without another player. Especially if you go to play your GC disc and learn that your memory cards with your Melee save file and backup save both got corrupted lol.
TheWorthyEdge
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(02-16-2015, 11:16 PM)
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Hey there! Has anyone in here heard of TCG (Texas Gaming Championship)? Was wondering if any of you go or went before?
A Pretty Panda
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(02-16-2015, 11:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Azure J

That isn't even the final form of wall jump Falcon combos.

http://youtu.be/MN3AF3j3tMw?t=1m33s
Acerac
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(02-16-2015, 11:25 PM)
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Wow, awesome OP! Glad to see this thread around, funny that with a game this age it hasn't shown up sooner.
FSLink
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(02-17-2015, 12:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny

I haven't tried it myself, but I read somewhere that Gamecube adapter support has been added to Nintendont, so I think it would be fine provided you have a lag free monitor!

Also, I'm taking a note of every suggestion for the OP. I'll be adding/changing stuff as soon as I get the chance!

Yeah it works pretty well with Gamecube games. F-Zero GX on the Wii U is amazing, and looks better than GC + component cables. Was just wondering if anyone's done any tests vs CRTs. :P It should probably be fine though.



I mentioned the 20XX Hack Pack earlier and I definitely think it should be in the OP. More people need to be aware of it.
theprodigy
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(02-17-2015, 12:44 AM)
so what's the next big tournament? not just for Melee either, the other games too
Revven
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(02-17-2015, 12:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by theprodigy

so what's the next big tournament? not just for Melee either, the other games too

Depends on by what you mean "big". Big as in 200+ entrants? Or big as in 150+ entrants?
emb
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(02-17-2015, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by theprodigy

so what's the next big tournament? not just for Melee either, the other games too

Apparently there's a Canada tournament on the 21st that might be big-ish. (According to: http://www.meleeitonme.com/february-2015-preview/)

No clue when the next big major is. I think Mango/Leffen maybe going to Australia in May?
Shimesaba
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(02-17-2015, 02:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by theprodigy

so what's the next big tournament? not just for Melee either, the other games too

"I'm Not Yelling", a NorCal tournament (and the sequel to The Next Episode), will be happening in April. Should be pretty big. I think Armada might be confirmed for it too, but might be misremembering.
Tomohawk
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(02-17-2015, 02:45 AM)
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Anyone know whats the plan with SSS.
Anteo
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(02-17-2015, 03:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny

some random nobody

indeed

jk lol

also, subscribed.
Anth0ny
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(02-17-2015, 03:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by theprodigy

so what's the next big tournament? not just for Melee either, the other games too

Winter Brawl is this weekend, Melee and Smash 4 will be there. Trying to find out more information about the event.
ec0ec0
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(02-17-2015, 03:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Anteo

indeed.

i hadn't noticed :O

so... Anth0ny saved melee!! :p
XANDER CAGE
(02-17-2015, 03:30 AM)
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Can someone more well-versed in Smash explain what is actually going on in the famous HAPPY FEET WOMBO COMBO video? I've never had any idea what is going on or why it's so crazy.
xezuru
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(02-17-2015, 03:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by XANDER CAGE

Can someone more well-versed in Smash explain what is actually going on in the famous HAPPY FEET WOMBO COMBO video? I've never had any idea what is going on or why it's so crazy.

Teams in general to this day is still pretty underdeveloped, think about the status all those years ago. More than anything technical, it was just a moment of insane freestyling of the teams on Zhu when team combos weren't even a thing, during a hype match.
Shimesaba
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(02-17-2015, 04:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by XANDER CAGE

Can someone more well-versed in Smash explain what is actually going on in the famous HAPPY FEET WOMBO COMBO video? I've never had any idea what is going on or why it's so crazy.

"Happy Feet" refers to a series of Falco combo videos made by Zhu, the target of the wombo combo (hence "that ain't Falco" - the implication is that since Zhu is playing Fox instead of Falco, he won't be able to pull out a Happy Feet moment). "Wombo Combo" comes from a pizza served at Round Table Pizza, a chain that is/was common in NorCal, where the players are from.

The excitement around the combo mostly speaks for itself, but that level of coordination for a team combo was all but unheard of in 2008, and some of the individual pieces (SS's single hit neutral air to not knock Zhu out of Tang's grab, Tang's shine-upsmash) would also have been impressive at the time.

Originally Posted by xezuru

it was just a moment of insane freestyling

I think they had actually practiced the combo before, but this was the first time they landed it in a tournament match.
Anth0ny
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(02-17-2015, 04:35 AM)
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I think shine up smash -> knee is the actual wombo combo. I remember hearing that somewhere. SS and Tang pulled it off before the wombo wombo video (not recorded, of course). Every time there was a 2 on 1 situation in teams with SS and Tang involved, you'd hear HMW ask, "wombo combo?" expecting it to come every time.

In the wombo combo video, it actually came.
Unicorn
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(02-17-2015, 04:41 AM)
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Oh man, I know the 2 front and center of the early days photo. AZ represent.
Captain Rage Quit 69
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny

I think shine up smash -> knee is the actual wombo combo. I remember hearing that somewhere. SS and Tang pulled it off before the wombo wombo video (not recorded, of course). Every time there was a 2 on 1 situation in teams with SS and Tang involved, you'd hear HMW ask, "wombo combo?" expecting it to come every time.

In the wombo combo video, it actually came.

God damn, I only just now realized the Fox did Shine jump-cancelled into up-smash, and I really appreciate the things you can do in Melee even more now.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
(02-17-2015, 04:51 AM)
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I don't play fox because he has that 3 frame short hop that I don't feel like adjusting my timing for.

Among other things.
Azure J
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(02-17-2015, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Captain Rage Quit 69

God damn, I only just now realized the Fox did Shine jump-cancelled into up-smash, and I really appreciate the things you can do in Melee even more now.

When you play casually against someone who doesn't know any better, Shine-Up Smash ruins friendships, especially if you trigger sudden death and go all in. :lol
ACE 1991
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(02-17-2015, 04:56 AM)
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Holy shit, I can't stop watching The Smash Brothers. What an incredibly well-done and fascinating documentary.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
(02-17-2015, 05:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny

In October 2012, some random nobody noticed tournament organizer Mr.Wizard doing a poll on the Evo Championship Series Facebook page. Wizard was gauging interest in what games should be on the roster. So this dude decided to make a thread on Smashboards about the poll. It was mostly a joke.

That was me god damn it

I have the proof

You're welcome smash babies
Anth0ny
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(02-17-2015, 05:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by A Pretty Panda

That was me god damn it

I have the proof

You're welcome smash babies

A Pretty Panda
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(02-17-2015, 05:33 AM)
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IT'S ME ANTH0NY. IT WAS ME, ALL ALONG ANTH0NY.

Ya your welcome for leading yall to peak golden age.

They should elect me King moderator on smashboards and let me into the backroom so I can change the tier lists.
trixx
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(02-17-2015, 05:41 AM)
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That OP is phenomenal. I wish i could play melee
xezuru
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(02-17-2015, 05:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by trixx

That OP is phenomenal. I wish i could play melee

If you just watch some of the videos recommended above, specifically the Wak tutorial for more competitive moves, just play with people in your region or on gaf with netplay, and i'm sure they'd fill you in.

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