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PS4 back in stock at Amazon
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Derpcrawler
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I tried both, there is no difference and I have very beefy router (WNDR3700v2 with DD-WRT and maximum TX power/gain). Read DF article. The Remote Play is garbage in it's current state, unless Sony increase bitrate or resolution or both and decrease latency there is no point for me. On top of that Remote Play is capped at 30FPS while Wii U and Shield can handle 60FPS with no sweat, people who claim it's same quality (it's worse bitrate so it can't be even near to Shield and Wii U) are either blind or delusional. (that's not directed to Pingoreous, just to people who claimed that Remote Play is anywhere near Wii U or same as their TV in terms of delay).
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-vita-remote-play
And for those who said "Same as Wii U", well it's not Wii U is 10-30ms delay same with Nvidia Shield, not 90ms+.
I hope the latency is software, if the latency is caused by hardware encoder then there is no way they will improve it unless in new revision of the console leaving old consoles with same lag.
And I tried playing Assassin's Creed, NFS and CoD Ghosts. While first 2 are bareable since they are 30FPS, CoD on top of being cut to 30FPS was very slow, the difference between my 16ms display and Vita was night and day. I think people who see no difference need to check their TV and disable all the "enhancers".
dreamer3kx
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Xbox one in stock on Amazon for some time = MS is great at replenishing.
PS4 in stock on Amazon for some time = Bomba and Sony is doomed.
PS4 in stock on Amazon for some time = Bomba and Sony is doomed.
FunkyPajamas
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Oh shit oh shit my GF is buying a PS4 as a b-day gift for me! 
And in the MS Amazon threads the opposite is said. Both instances are dumb.
And it's easy to tell what Amazon thinks about the demand for a product. Dropping the trade-in value of the PS4 by 120 dollars today is an indicator that Amazon got a lot of them.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
What the fuck are you talking about? People are saying all sorts of stupid shit and attributing only half of it to one system is just as stupid as saying it. Nobody sane would say that either system has bombed yet there was tons of Xbomb posts in the past 3 weeks. Ansy PS4bomb posts are likely just parodies of the xbomb bullshit.
I am not surprised that they went for one big Amazon shipment in the final days leading up to Xmas, it certainly gives a lot of people an easy way to order one and have it in time to put it under the tree for little Jimmy.
Speedy Blue Dude
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Yeah no I would disagree...
Yeah but competition doesn't equal sales parity.
Do you think it would be worth MS having sales parity if they did it while keeping their original vision for the Xbox One? Or the Wii U having sales parity even if it was a Nintendo console for Nintendo games only?
Heck Nintendo is a good example of not competing whether they sell 100m Wii's or 100k Wii U's.
If you wanna look-up more info on the wireless chips in the next-gen consoles:
PS4: Marvell Avastar 88W8797 (http://www.marvell.com/wireless/avastar/88W8797/, http://www.marvell.com/wireless/assets/marvell_avastar_88w8797.pdf)
Xbox1: Marvell Avastar 88W8897 (http://www.marvell.com/wireless/avastar/88W8897/, http://www.marvell.com/wireless/avastar/88W8897/assets/Marvell-Avastar-88W8897-SoC-PB.pdf)
Wii U: http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s722281
Go! Go! Go! Little PS4.
Seriously though this shipment Amazon got must have been massive, Sony must have been planning this shipment for a while. Other stores have got new stock too around this same time, but most of the stores nearby are either holding for Super Saturday or have already sold out of that new stock. I bet this is their biggest stock surge yet, probably want to try to win the month if possible.
all the launches are done for 2013. Everything goes to NA/western europe
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both are in stock (xb1/ps4): we should all get along
Derpcrawler
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You're probably right. Sony went cheap on the wireless chip in the PS4. Both the WiiU & Xbox1 wireless chips support dual-band WiFi, WiFi Direct, Miracast, Bluetooth 4.0, & NFC. Xbox1's wireless chip also supports 802.11ac WiFi. Hardware-wise, Second screen & Remote Play should be better on the Xbox1 & WiiU than on the PS4. But I think Sony is making it up by using software/techniques from Gaikai..
If you wanna look-up more info on the wireless chips in the next-gen consoles:
PS4: Marvell Avastar 88W8797 (http://www.marvell.com/wireless/avastar/88W8797/, http://www.marvell.com/wireless/assets/marvell_avastar_88w8797.pdf)
Xbox1: Marvell Avastar 88W8897 (http://www.marvell.com/wireless/avastar/88W8897/, http://www.marvell.com/wireless/avastar/88W8897/assets/Marvell-Avastar-88W8897-SoC-PB.pdf)
Wii U: http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s722281
I don't think that's a wireless chip, but the hardware encoder they are using. If I ping my PS4 from my PC (which is on 5Ghz Wi-Fi) the latency is always less than 1ms inside my network.
I think people are blaming way too much on Wireless. Unless you have only 2.4Ghz in clogged neighborhood, I just don't see why some gamers view Wireless LAN as unsuitable for gaming. I get 1-2ms latency on PC to local Team Fortress 2 servers, less than 1ms if they are on my ISP network, and that's through Wi-Fi. Hell, sometimes I get less than 1ms latency to my city suburb (and Shanghai is damn huge city).
TheSpoiler
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My job moved my payday till the 4th. This is the third day I've watched these still be up on Amazon.
I'm so fucking mad right now. I can't believe this. They are in stock, yet my job decided that the payroll thing ends in the 15th of December.
I doubt we will get a chance like this again
I'm so fucking mad right now. I can't believe this. They are in stock, yet my job decided that the payroll thing ends in the 15th of December.
I doubt we will get a chance like this again
My job moved my payday till the 4th. This is the third day I've watched these still be up on Amazon.
I'm so fucking mad right now. I can't believe this. They are in stock, yet my job decided that the payroll thing ends in the 15th of December.
I doubt we will get a chance like this again
This isn't the Wii. It'll be on sale regularly after Christmas.
Cornbread78
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Just do it and play the games out now..
travisbickle
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FairXchange
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I'm assuming you somehow can't put it on a credit card?My job moved my payday till the 4th. This is the third day I've watched these still be up on Amazon.
I'm so fucking mad right now. I can't believe this. They are in stock, yet my job decided that the payroll thing ends in the 15th of December.
I doubt we will get a chance like this again
Everdred
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No price drop or hardware changes in between, why not get it?
Unfortunately not in Europe.
lowhighkang_LHK
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It looks like it:
Well, that escalated quickly.
Damn, shipment must have been massive.
It looks like it:
Well, that escalated quickly.
Xbone was faster to #1 -Major Nelson
dragonflys545
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It looks like it:
Well, that escalated quickly.
Holy SHIT!
Definitely...and they aimed for the last "friday" before Xmas. Friday is a great day because it is when most people get paid and of course..this friday is the last friday before Xmas. Nice job Sony! This shipment MUST BE HUGE!
TheSpoiler
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You'd better not be lying to me or I'll be mildly upset!
Though it is kinda cool that there are some in stock 3 days after the fact and 4 days before xmas.
My credit has been shot for a while ;_; so no dice.
I can't help but notice it's still in stock even now. Worth noting that this shipment appears to be amazon.com only ... could they have received 50,000 units + maybe ? It also looks like it will ship to canada if you felt so inclined.
Meanwhile, amazon.ca lists a january 15th "new year" preorder. So I'm thinking they are just taking every order they've had since shortly before launch and ordering at least that many for january 15th.
Cool for people trying to get them this month I suppose. I've bought the last 2 sony home consoles on march 31st by an odd coincidence so I'll probably try to pull off a threefer there.
Meanwhile, amazon.ca lists a january 15th "new year" preorder. So I'm thinking they are just taking every order they've had since shortly before launch and ordering at least that many for january 15th.
Cool for people trying to get them this month I suppose. I've bought the last 2 sony home consoles on march 31st by an odd coincidence so I'll probably try to pull off a threefer there.
LumpOfCole
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It looks like it:
Well, that escalated quickly.
Hahaha at Aliens being #6
Shows you the power if the sale
yup. Has to probably be their largest shipment of PS4's yet. Stores everywhere near me either have a huge stock for tomorrow or had stock, major stock, and are now sold out.
Using Amazon rankings to extrapolate any larger success or failure is always incredibly misleading, sometimes when items are out of stock they do not list the item with the other systems being sold, for example, so it appears the system is much further down the list; other times there are seemingly bizarre things that appear out of nowhere and sell like zero copies in NPD.
It's just a short snapshot in time, it doesn't tell us much one way or the other. Before PS4 and XBO was out, it mainly just showed us a general feel of which system had the most interest. Extrapolating anything more specific than that is probably a bad idea imo.
It's just a short snapshot in time, it doesn't tell us much one way or the other. Before PS4 and XBO was out, it mainly just showed us a general feel of which system had the most interest. Extrapolating anything more specific than that is probably a bad idea imo.
Just a reflection of what's selling the most units that hour. When it runs out of stock, it'll drop back down like the Xbox One is now. When the Xbox One gets restocked, it moves back to #1. And so on and so forth.
makingmusic476
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Any idea how much Sony is shipping across the board?
I could've sworn I read on here sometime last week that they were manufacturing 1 million a month in China and an additional 300k in Japan, but that they had begun airlifting in January's supply early in December alongside December's shipment traveling by boat, doubling their initial shipping rate from about ~300k/w to ~600k/w. That would explain reports of stores receiving their biggest shipments yet while Sony is also sending stock to far more countries than they were in November, but I can't remember where I saw that or who said it.
Is the presumption that Microsoft is manufacturing a similar 1 million a month in China, with no additional stock coming from elsewhere? I think I read that as well.
I could've sworn I read on here sometime last week that they were manufacturing 1 million a month in China and an additional 300k in Japan, but that they had begun airlifting in January's supply early in December alongside December's shipment traveling by boat, doubling their initial shipping rate from about ~300k/w to ~600k/w. That would explain reports of stores receiving their biggest shipments yet while Sony is also sending stock to far more countries than they were in November, but I can't remember where I saw that or who said it.
Is the presumption that Microsoft is manufacturing a similar 1 million a month in China, with no additional stock coming from elsewhere? I think I read that as well.
Atomic Airplanes
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Got mine! BOOYA
Amazon is the shit.
Amazon is the shit.
LowEndTorque
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If you want the broader picture look at the best sellers in video games for 2013 (the entire year) rather than the list for the past 24 hours.
PS4 is at #8. Xbone day one edition at #17 and regular edition at #25.
*Groans*
Since when does a system that's still in stock on a online store = not selling? They could be having a very large supply, for all we know.
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