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The Great Porn Experiment (TEDxGlasgow)

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Plywood

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zif0_60b3WU

Have our brains evolved to handle the hyperstimulation of today's Internet enticements? In a response to Philip Zimbardo's "The demise of guys?" TEDTalk, Gary Wilson discusses the disturbing symptoms showing up in some heavy Internet users, the surprising reversal of those symptoms, and the science behind these 21st century phenomena.

A youtube commenter did a somewhat nice summary of the video if you're feeling horribly lazy enough to not listen for 16 minutes:

tl;dw Porn watching is an addiction. It overstimulates our desire to mate and replaces sex and it's preceding actions, courting, flirting, interaction, etc. with actions associated with internet surfing.

Excess chronic consumption -> binge mechanism in all species -> cravings for more

Effect: Numbed pleasure response, hyper-reactivity to porn, willpower erosion
Anyone that has tried this, care to speak on the results?
 

Kapura

Banned
wait, so if i watch porn too much I'll lose my sensitivity to actual sex?

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Recon

Banned
I once masturbated for 6 hours..It was actually two weeks ago. I was coming off being up for 48 hours and I was on quite of bit of adderall. I was basically rubbing a flacid penis at the end. I dont know why I am sharing this or why it relates. Fuck it.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
And the conclusion was?
Some people get addicted, some don't have any issues, some are in a middle ground.
Some find that it affects their attitude/instincts interacting with potential/current mates, some find it doesn't inhibit their drives or relations at all, some people find it moderately affects them.

Turns out people are different, use things differently, and are affected differently. Amazing concept, I know.
 

Lucario

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I once masturbated for 6 hours..It was actually two weeks ago. I was coming off being up for 48 hours and I was on quite of bit of adderall. I was basically rubbing a flacid penis at the end. I dont know why I am sharing this or why it relates. Fuck it.

Stimulants will do that to you.

(Believe me, I'd know.)
 

Recon

Banned
Stimulants will do that to you.

(Believe me, I'd know.)

Honestly, it was one of the best nights of masturbating I have ever had. I think I exhausted the streaming site I was looking at. I completely zoned out at 3 pm and the next thing I know I was finished and my friend was messaging me on facebook at 9pm...I had no idea I had just been jacking it for 6 hours. When I had sex with my girl the next day I was super fucking sore....weird day.
 
It's a real problem though. Last year when I got my first bj ever (from gf) I couldn't even cum. I've toned my viewing down drastically since then and things are better.
 

Zaptruder

Banned
"As one young guy asked: "Are we the first generation to masturbate left handed?"

LOL... been a lefty has a few advantages here and there. This is definetly one of them.
 
Porn and my vibrator don't have shit on the real thing.

Well, yeah, but I'm not suggesting the contrary.

I mean, it seems to me that women who enjoy porn are more fun than women who don't. And I don't just mean in bed, but in general.

The vid only focuses on negative effects on males; I'd like to hear about the effects on women.


I have tried several stuff I probably never would've if it weren't for porn.

That's what I'm talking about.
 

Recon

Banned
What about the ladies?

In my experience, ones who watch porn are more fun.

Funny story, when I lived with my ex girlfriend, I came home from a job interview and found her pants off with a vibrator in her hand. The computer was in the main room of the apartment so she had no time to pull her pants on after I unlocked the door and came in. I didnt say anything and took her to the bedroom. Best sex I have ever had.
 

Joe

Member
www.yourbrainonporn.com

www.reddit.com/r/nofap


i'm currently in "detox". i've masturbated to porn about 4 times in the past 2.5 months, coming off once a day minimum for 12-15 years.

don't watch porn or jerk off (or sex!) for 10-14 days and you will feel like a new and different person with more energy than you know what to do with, it's legit craziness.

IF you are addicted to porn, it will take about 60-90 day "reset" period (no porn, no masturbation, no "edging", no orgasm) to correct yourself and brain wiring.
 

ajim

Member
Funny story, when I lived with my ex girlfriend, I came home from a job interview and found her pants off with a vibrator in her hand. The computer was in the main room of the apartment so she had no time to pull her pants on after I unlocked the door and came in. I didnt say anything and took her to the bedroom. Best sex I have ever had.

Thats awesome.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
Funny story, when I lived with my ex girlfriend, I came home from a job interview and found her pants off with a vibrator in her hand. The computer was in the main room of the apartment so she had no time to pull her pants on after I unlocked the door and came in. I didnt say anything and took her to the bedroom. Best sex I have ever had.
Did you get the job?
 

Boozeroony

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www.yourbrainonporn.com

www.reddit.com/r/nofap


i'm currently in "detox". i've masturbated to porn about 4 times in the past 2.5 months, coming off once a day minimum for 12-15 years.

don't watch porn or jerk off (or sex!) for 10-14 days and you will feel like a new and different person with more energy than you know what to do with, it's legit craziness.

IF you are addicted to porn, it will take about 60-90 day "reset" period (no porn, no masturbation, no "edging", no orgasm) to correct yourself and brain wiring.

Gonna try 2 weeks without porn/JO. A detox every now and then should keeps things healthy.
 

neorej

ERMYGERD!
Funny story, when I lived with my ex girlfriend, I came home from a job interview and found her pants off with a vibrator in her hand. The computer was in the main room of the apartment so she had no time to pull her pants on after I unlocked the door and came in. I didnt say anything and took her to the bedroom. Best sex I have ever had.

Why would you live with your ex-girlfriend?
 
Is it masturbation or porno that's the culprit here?

Would it be fine to not watch porno and masturbate only using your imagination say, once a week?
 

Joe

Member
Is it masturbation or porno that's the culprit here?

Would it be fine to not watch porno and masturbate only using your imagination say, once a week?
it's the porn. the constant stream of non-stop videos, trying to find the right one to finish to. all those hot girls doing more and more extreme stuff, your brain think that's semi-real...

if you can't masturbate to imagination, using a soft grip and finish in under 10 minutes you probably have a problem.
 
No orgasms for 60-90 days to reset? Nocturnal emissions won't allow it, and I sure as heck won't be wearing a chastity belt. 'Tho I agree with cutting down the fap intake and the benefits of it, I personally think that I have watched all the porn I was meant to for a lifetime so I'm willing to embark on this doomed venture, for a change.
 

Staccat0

Fail out bailed
It waxes and wanes for me. I get something different out of sex than what I get from porn. However, being married, I have regular access to daily sex so I don't know. I guess I'm not addicted.
I sometimes go a few weeks without indulging, and other times I watch it everyday for a few days.
It's one of those things where the right one sets you off on an adventure for more, but very little of it "hits the spot" so I can see how people get hooked looking for the right "fix"
 

alterno69

Banned
It waxes and wanes for me. I get something different out of sex than what I get from porn. However, being married, I have regular access to daily sex so I don't know. I guess I'm not addicted.
I sometimes go a few weeks without indulging, and other times I watch it everyday for a few days.
It's one of those things where the right one sets you off on an adventure for more, but very little of it "hits the spot" so I can see how people get hooked looking for the right "fix"

Same here, sex with my wife is on another level but instill enjoy the pleasure of internet porn here and there, nothing extreme tho, pretty tame stuff for me.
 
I never understood this.

I'm not going to get into details but I watch porn relatively regularly (compared to how often I'm having sex these days) and even the gentlest, most "softcore", sexual contact with a real woman is more stimulating to me than the best porn I've ever seen.
 

B!TCH

how are you, B!TCH? How is your day going, B!ITCH?
Wait. I just thought of something. Do women wash their toys after they use them?

Not like in a dishwasher or anything like that, but in a sink with soap and water, right?



Anyway, my question now remains the same as it was the last time this topic came up,

What do they mean no porn? What qualifies as pornography? Is it specifically people having sex, a picture of a naked person, does the person have to be doing something provocative in the image or is it anything you find sexually stimulating? Reason why I'm asking such seemingly inane questions is because it seems like the entire crux of this argument rests on the assumption that young men are looking at extreme porn very frequently which reduces their sensitivity to real life stimulation. I'm okay with someone making that argument but the problem I have is I'm not sure what qualifies as, "porn," in the first place. I mean if a girl I find attractive posts a provocative image of herself (exposing her cleavage showing off her curves and whatnot) on Facebook that gets me aroused, does that mean I'm looking at pornography? The physiological effect on the body is the same as me watching two people having sex if I am indeed getting aroused, is it not?

To add to that a little bit, I think this "problem" is getting attention mainly because most young men who use pornography don't feel good about looking at pornography in the first place (i.e. for most people, it's something you keep secret or hidden, and don't display it proudly to your parents, roommates, peers, etc.). There is an inbuilt shame with looking at pornography in the first place (even if you put aside moral objections to pornography, most guys would rather have a real girlfriend than resorting to pornography and might feel shame at their inability to attract a suitable real life mate) so it's fitting that they would find it very easy to correlate many negative aspects of their lives with looking at pornography.

Personally I don't think pornography in and of itself is the problem but rather the behaviors associated with looking at excessive amounts of pornography. For example, to even get the chance to look at pornography in great excess, you need to be alone and isolated for a good portion of your regular day (i.e. spending a lot of time alone in your room in front of a computer) and that would essentially mean that you aren't out in the world interacting with anyone regularly or socializing with family, peers, etc (this can lead to feeling depressed or feelings of anxiety over your excessive use of porn among other things). And if you are leading a regular life and staying up late to look at pornography when everyone else has gone to sleep that will lead to not getting enough sleep and feeling fatigued and low energy during the day (this can be mistaken for depression if your mood changes enough).

The parts where I agree with the study is that you can create bad behaviors and get used to certain routines without really realizing it if you are looking at porn regularly simply because looking at and masturbating to porn is an easy way to feel good for minimal cost and effort. Where I differ with the study is in saying that it's not pornography per se, that's the problem, but rather the behaviors that come and are easy to develop as a result of having easy access to pornography. Stopping your porn consumption alone will not solve your problems if you just stop looking at porn but continue your anti-social behavior. The best way to cure your porn "addiction" is to find better ways to use your time than sitting in front of a computer alone in your room/apartment.

The scientific basis of the study is fair but it's wrong to vilify pornography when it is just one anti-social behavior you could be addicted to; your social problems would be just as bad if you were addicted to playing video games all day or browsing the internet (perhaps minus the erectile difficulties when with a real life mate as a result of overstimulation from porn). You have to find addictive behaviors which are social, for example, exercising regularly or lifting weights.

If you are disciplined enough you can look at pornography in moderation and not in place of regular social activities and likely never suffer from the negative side effects cited in this study.

As with all things in life strict self-discipline and moderation are the keys to leading a healthy productive lifestyle.
 

Zzoram

Member
This guy seems to have a good point. I'm sure the effects of porn aren't the same on everyone but I'm also sure that it has some effect.
 
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