Oh right, I completely forgot about Apple TV. Does Apple have a competing product equivalent to SmartGlass though?
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No, but they easily could. From Microsoft's standpoint they want to protect the success they have in the living room and add more features so people use Xboxes as media devices. SmartGlass it a shot at Apple's interest in the living room but also at Nintendo and Sony too who already have stake in it.
I guess that makes sense, but I'm not sure how a quick sizzle reel for future games would really give away too many secrets to the competition. They don't even have to show the controller functions if they don't want to.
Wait.
If 50% of Wii U = this gen
Wouldn't 100% of Wii U = twice this gen? So 2x, not 1.5x.
Ughh, did I realize just engage in DBZ power level analysis? I'm slipping.
As long as it's Teen Gohan and not gimped Adult Gohan that's sweet.
I didnt know Gotham City could transform into ssj2.
I meant Adult SSj2 Gohan, cause Mystic Gohan is pure swag in DBZ form.
DC Comics vs. Shueisha, what a crossover that would be.
Refreshment.01
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That's not really good. But what we should consider is price. At 250 one could live up with that, comparable to slightly better graphics output. Go over 300 an it's a concerning issue.
You talk like WiiU hardware is an exotic platform. Is not a port of the PS3 game, is more than likely a port of the 360 version (or PC maybe) so the leraning curve is lessen a lot.
Also i did like Iwata's answer regarding MS reacting to the screen controller, very nice.
Edit:
How on earth you inferred that from Iwata's statement?
Exterminieren
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Another thing: there's also the presentation.
And there's a news, if I'm reading correctly.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/120606/02.html
Finally, lets talk about the games. Weve got a massive list of AAA content on the way from all of the biggest names in gaming that are all proven franchises, all exclusive to our platform, and all coming to stores both in physical and digital formats in the second half of 2012.
This should confirm that also third party games will be available through eShop.
I'm not certain Epic Mickey counts towards that; aren't Disney notorious for not allowing console games involving their characters to be digitally distributed? I'm thinking BBS here.
Yes. Just like DX10 has functionality not present in DX9, DX11 has stuff not present in DX10. Tesselation and shaders that make heavy uses of the new functionality (or the improved performance in already existing features) wound need to be toned down, removed or replaced by something else.
Refreshment.01
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SO the WiiU GPU ended up being a dx 10.1 variant?
Aaron Strife
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Didn't BBS eventually get released digitally? Or am I just imagining things?
Speaking of KH, since NSMB2 is the first game to be released digitally, KH
DD actually precedes that. I don't know if those games are necessarily being released online.Well, you could give Sony all the best ideas in the world and it would still be very unlikely that they would turn them into successful products.
It's original base is most definitely the r700 architecture. Whether it's final form remains that way is still up in the air (devs like "antonz" said it has "2012 features" - whatever that means). But all the developer documentation from AMD is almost literally a copy+paste job from their R700 line videocards.
ActStriker
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You're imagining things.
Refreshment.01
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So the R700 feature set, that's AMD 4000 family correct? Who were the guys in the speculation threads that were always saying it'll be DX11 (feature wise) plus on a 28nm. Bgassasin maybe? Too bad it'll miss direct compute type applications and the advanced tessellation.
$15B is a big nut. Instead of reporting to shareholders they'd wind up reporting to a private equity firm.
Yeah it's not like it'll be customized or anything.
I don't think there were too many folks expecting 28nm.
However, "DX11" stuff? I don't know. I just know that the original base is the r700.
For what it's worth, developer "antonz" on GAF has stated that the GPU has "2012" features so it could've been customized beyond its r700 origins in the 2 years that they worked on it. Or maybe not. The only *fact* that I know is that the original basis is the r700 architecture. Everything else is shrouded in mountains of NDAs and non-specific documentation.
But it does support compute/GPGPU just fine, and has a tesselator (though if I were to guess, it'd be the older tesselator from the r700 series).
Maybe they traded DD Epic Mickey for use of Nintendo characters in Wreck-It Ralph. I mean Bowser is straight up in that movie.
LOL
Nope, it did not (I like your imagination though). I don't think KHDidn't BBS eventually get released digitally? Or am I just imagining things?
Speaking of KH, since NSMB2 is the first game to be released digitally, KH
DD will be one of those titles, but for everything after NSMB2, I think it's fair game.lunchwithyuzo
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Connection rates are great, comparable to 360 and PS3.
stephentotilo
Behind The Games
Possibly because it was the CEO of Nintendo talking. Iwata does very few media interviews.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Fixed.
The R700 architecture supports tessellation, but wasn't really employed because DX11 wasn't made to exploit this functionality.
Zoramon089
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You make a lot of assumptions
Lot of assumptions here, it's a different situation.
bgassassin
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Haha. The latter is true.
I don't think you realize how closely I've followed Wii U's progress.
Oh yeah, you would need to see the origin behind that to understand why
That's only partially true. Way back last year I speculated on the GPU possibly using a 28nm process before noticing that 28nm is considered a half node and Nintendo has only used main nodes like the CPU being 45nm. I was never set on it being DX11-equivalent, I did gain more confidence after awhile that it was very possible.
And with the rumor of the weak CPU being due in part to having a GPGPU, it won't miss those things that you are mentioning if true, it will just be on a reduced scale in comparison to the other consoles coming out. But from what I know/understand I would get hung up on the R700 feature set. I was told last year as the GPU was nearing completion that it looked "more 2012".
chickdigger802
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well with the cost of games this gen and next gen... I'd predict that it's gonna be a long ass while before we stop seeing ps3 and 360 ports.
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