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Paradox Grand Strategy - Thread of Fighting WW2 as Bithynia
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One day, I hope to be able to get into these. I've given EU3 a few attempts but I can never get around the interface. Messages pop up all the time and they really break the flow of the game. It's finally come to my attention that you can change the messaging settings, so maybe that might help.
Yeah, the interface is anything but intuitive, it really put me off the game.
Europa Universalis 3, with all the expansions. It's got just enough of the other specialised games to be a great bridge into them.
Like the combat? Buy Hearts of Iron 3 or the upcoming Napoleon's Campaigns 2.
Like the economy? Buy Victoria 2.
Like the characters? Buy Crusader Kings 2, Sengoku or EU: Rome.
Want more of a challenge? Buy Magna Mundi.
thanks, will look on steam.
Prophane33
Member
I can't wait for Magna Mundi and Napoleon's Campaigns 2! Having a Clausewitz engine Napoleon focused game is going to be so sweet. I currently own tons of Paradox published strategy games, and own everything as far as the Clausewitz stuff goes; I Really love EU3, been spending most of my time with Victoria 2 (A House Divided truly makes this game shine), and spent Wednesday learning how to REALLY play Hearts of Iron 3 (finally) and having a decent time waging war as Germany. I can do just about everything manually now outside of actually directing the battles (still keeping my two HQs on AI) thinking of weaning myself off that slowly and really learning how to set things up. As far as Tech,Production, Politics, Diplomacy etc, I got that. Even messed around with editing the theaters as the war progresses. I just feel like there is a real night and day difference between HOI 2 and HOI 3. As far as Crusader Kings 2 goes, I bought it the first week it was out, but haven't put more than an hour or two into it. I didn't have much fun with it until I finally played at the King level (England), then things really started to click. (Also what's up with not being able to play as a Muslim country? Do I smell expansion?
Edit: Forgot about CK2
Edit: Forgot about CK2
I'm spending some spare time modding the map into Westeros and Essos from Song of Ice and Fire, in the hopes that someone else can actually build a full TC out of it... That said I am still a bit clueless about the dynasty style games...
Reading AARs (After action reports, there are some in the official paradox forums) or looking at a Let's play are some good ways to learn how to play paradox games, especially if you find good ones that explain the choices.
Hmm, so I wouldn't exactly recommend Sengoku.
It just seemed to lack depth :-/
Before the game came out, I was watching a lot of ParadoxianLP's LP's as Leon.
He just started a new one as the Hapsburgs.
No.
I haven't read too much about the Napoleonic game. It's made by AGEOD, right? I've tried their games, but I usually suck at them
Which version did you play? They also changed the handling of messages for their recent games (and I think they changed it in the latest expansion of EUIII, I think.)
As for the interface as a whole, once you learn it for one game, you pretty much know it for all of them (besides, HOI III, I think. Hard to remember.)
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Woo, thread is up! I wonder if we'll ever see an update of Darkest Hour to the HoI3 engine so we can get our Cold War timeline covered.
Here's a pretty good starter guide. Also includes suggestions on message settings and stuff I believe:
http://lparchive.org/Europa-Universalis-III-Divine-Wind/
Here's a pretty good starter guide. Also includes suggestions on message settings and stuff I believe:
http://lparchive.org/Europa-Universalis-III-Divine-Wind/
fizzelopeguss
Banned
Best games ever.
Man, I know I keep saying this, but I should really take the time to learn how to play HOI III.
I still can't believe I had trouble powering through Belgium as Germany in one of the few games I tried.
Actually:
I still can't believe I had trouble powering through Belgium as Germany in one of the few games I tried.
Actually:
Is there a good starter guide for HOI?
Really?
I never picked it up, not really sure why, but if this is the case I'll wait for a low enough sale before buying it.
I haven't really touched many LPs for CK2 aside from skimming a couple for pure entertainment (the game lends itself quite well for weird and funny situations), because I found it to be pretty simple to get right away, at least compared to the other titles, and before that I completely forgot it was coming out soon (oops) so I don't have many suggestion as far as teaching lps go but that youtube channel looks like could be quite the resource.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
HOI III wiki, has nation guides.
Germany is pretty forgiving but its biggest problem is resources. With all nations though you should probably have a few core units to build your army around and research/produce the tits off them.
Soviet union units i focus on fighter aircraft, infantry and light tanks, and my spies keep japan out of the axis. Once i have germany+ its allies on the backfoot i just produce what i want then.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?577185-Germany-Tutorial-Take-2.
Goes into every action he takes and why.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
This is more of a Clausewitz engine thread than anything. HoI2 was Europa engine.
Well, presumably French (and even British) forces were holding you up. As a newer player, I'd advise you to let the AI handle the military part from one of the top levels (HQ level would probably be best), and focus on getting production and research right.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Nice idea. Subbed.
Having to play T:A for every possible moment of gaming due to the relatively limited amount I have, I've put aside getting into Crusader Kings 2. I think tomorrow morning is the day where I finally break down. Here's hoping I don't miss a week of scrims due to it.
Dude. Do it. Once you learn the interface, each game becomes its own little variation on the theme. The concept is similar to Dwarf Fortress. Once you get over the learning cliff, it's pure bliss.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Could be a lot of work for the OP, but I'd like to see a 'helping hand' guide to each franchise, or just overall. I've kind of learned to play by just blindly fumbling my way through the various games. I'm pretty sure I'm missing out on half a game by doing this, as I have no REAL idea how to build decent armies.
In HoI III I was the US and I sort of just sat there the whole war.
In V II I was the US and I sort of just sat there during everything (again) and manufactured a lot of stuff. Mexico took over the entire Western side of North America. Russia owned Canada. At least I had a lot of 'stuff'.
Gentleman Jack
Member
I've only played HoI II but unless the events engine changed a lot the US is unfortunately one of the worst choices for a fun HoI session. Their late historical entry into the war and near unlimited IC/TC and manpower makes it too tempting to 'game' the war by joining the Allies early, not to mention the pathetic ease of winning a Pacific War you can see coming. The worst part is even if you hold back and let the Japanese overwhelm the Pacific Ocean, sometimes they just don't effing declare war on you, wasting a ton of research you might have plugged in to prepare for a land/sea war.
Europe/Russia is where it's at.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Yeah, think I'll give that ago. Was thinking of taking up one of the Eastern Europe countries and flirting between all 3 Powers.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
See the EU3 guide I linked to earlier in the thread.
Here's another interesting LP going through a bunch of Paradox games, but some of them are older titles (CK1, V1, HOI2), not a lot of instructional info like the other LP I posted above, but if you follow along you can get a sense what he's trying to do.
http://lparchive.org/Paradox-Hohenzollern/
Yea... since I've gotten CK2, I haven't even touched Sengoku. It's like, CK2-lite.
Kind of a disappointment.
BTW, one of my favourite things about Claustwitz games is how easy they are to run in Wine.
I have yet to actually play CK2 in Windows.
alexthekid
Member
I have never been able too get into EU3 it just feels messy and too complex. And this comes from someone who spent countless of hours playing EU2 and still go back to it every now and then.
You are aware that there already is a Game of Thrones mod, right?
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?594709-MOD-A-Game-of-Thrones
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Subscribing as one of the EU3 duders.
Mr. Luchador
Member
haha class.
Oh well, on to something else then! :S
Basileus777
Member
I think it's fitting to have one mega thread for this.
Hah at Magna Mundi being listed.
Hah at Magna Mundi being listed.
Basileus777
Member
The Magna Mundi mod doesn't support Divine Wind and suffers from a lot of bloat. I wouldn't recommend it anymore.