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PHOENIXZERO
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(05-19-2017, 03:39 PM)
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If they legit fridged Iris... Ugh, that would be a point of no return for the show IMO.


They didn't though because we already know she'll actually be alive and in season four.
iosefe
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(05-19-2017, 05:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Permanently A

Yeah really lol

the writers are actively now just using time travel when they feel like it and ignoring it when its irksome for them

i mean, legit, Meet The Robinsons did "creating your enemy" better and used the ending I just said.

Originally Posted by Lord Frieza

If I'm not mistaken, did Future Barry say he couldn't win without them?

again, if he never makes he remnant, savitar can't exist. we have seen that actions of younger barry do resonate to Savitar.

so i guess the real solution would be to put Barry into a coma right before he would have fought savitar and made remnants.
Septimus Prime
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(05-19-2017, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by iosefe

i mean, legit, Meet The Robinsons did "creating your enemy" better and used the ending I just said.


again, if he never makes he remnant, savitar can't exist. we have seen that actions of younger barry do resonate to Savitar.

so i guess the real solution would be to put Barry into a coma right before he would have fought savitar and made remnants.

Time would correct course, so that wouldn't really be tenable.

Like, look at the last episode: despite all they did to change things, in the end, the scene played out exactly the same as how it did in the flash-forward—Barry still begs Savitar not to kill Iris, and he's still too slow to do anything about it, and he even still catches Iris' body in the exact same way.

Barry will eventually use time remnants, one way or another, and one will become Savitar. The only thing that would change is maybe Savitar's date of creation.
Joni
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(05-19-2017, 07:59 PM)
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And taking out Eddie still allowed versions of Eobard to exist.
StaticJam
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(05-19-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Joni

And taking out Eddie still allowed versions of Eobard to exist.

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Pics_nao
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(05-19-2017, 10:01 PM)

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VeeP
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(05-19-2017, 10:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lord Frieza

If I'm not mistaken, did Future Barry say he couldn't win without them?

Future Barry didn't even find out who Savitar was. He's a scrub already.

Why not get Wally, Jessie, Supergirl, one-two other speedsters instead of making a time remanant?

Oh yea. Because Speedforce. Calcified Speedforce.

Originally Posted by iosefe

i mean, legit, Meet The Robinsons did "creating your enemy" better and used the ending I just said.


again, if he never makes he remnant, savitar can't exist. we have seen that actions of younger barry do resonate to Savitar.

so i guess the real solution would be to put Barry into a coma right before he would have fought savitar and made remnants.

Meet the Robinsons was a great movie. Really underrated.
caliph95
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(05-19-2017, 10:19 PM)
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OR just erased his memories on the deadline and tell Frost to fuck off
Grizzlyjin
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(05-19-2017, 10:22 PM)
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H.R. saved Iris. When Barry asks him to explain how, he'll just say "Drum, Barry. Drum" and then solo YYZ.
BLOODED_hands
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(05-19-2017, 10:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by VeeP

Future Barry didn't even find out who Savitar was. He's a scrub already.

Why not get Wally, Jessie, Supergirl, one-two other speedsters instead of making a time remanant?

Oh yea. Because Speedforce. Calcified Speedforce.



Meet the Robinsons was a great movie. Really underrated.

Even with those Speedsters Savitar will wreck faces. Pure, Calcified, Speed Force Faces.

His armor (Speed Force and Plot) is too good. Even if he went up against Kara he will beat her because he should have been there for the crossover and knows how to beat her (phasing).
Septimus Prime
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(05-19-2017, 10:26 PM)
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Get Prometheus, then. Savitar isn't fast enough to get ahead of him.
BLOODED_hands
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(05-19-2017, 10:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

Get Prometheus, then. Savitar isn't fast enough to get ahead of him.

Ahem.... CALCIFIED PLOT ARMOR AND FORCE.
mayl3
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(05-19-2017, 10:34 PM)
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Constantine could have beat savitar.
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(05-19-2017, 10:34 PM)
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What are the odds that Iris actually dies and one from another Earth replaces her?
StaticJam
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(05-19-2017, 10:36 PM)
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I can't see any real satisfying conclusion to the finale.
  • The time loop is fucking whack
  • They don't have the balls to kill Iris
  • Killing another Wells somehow would be tiring, especially when it's become obvious that Tracy is a Wells replacement and not a Caitlyn replacement
  • What lesson does Barry learn? Not to be evil?
  • How has the show evolved or changed since Season 2?
Best case scenario:
  • We get a new suit in S4
  • We get Harry back
  • Barry fucks off for a bit in S4 and we have Wally
  • Someone lets poor old man Garrick out of the speedforce
  • Killer Frost is walked back as Caitlyn with powers is interesting enough
  • Jessie gets promoted to series regular
NipplesAndToes23
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(05-19-2017, 10:52 PM)
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Where'd did Tracy come from? I think I missed an episode.
Nabs
(05-19-2017, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blasian Persuasion

Where'd did Tracy come from? I think I missed an episode.

Did you watch 19 (The Once and Future Flash) and 20 (I Know Who You Are).
NipplesAndToes23
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(05-19-2017, 10:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nabs

Did you watch 19 (The Once and Future Flash) and 20 (I Know Who You Are).

I don't know.
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(05-19-2017, 10:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blasian Persuasion

I don't know.

19 is where he runs to the future to find out who Savitar is, 20 is where they look for Tracy.
BLOODED_hands
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(05-19-2017, 11:01 PM)
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What lesson does Barry learn?

Stop acting and being a damn Barry. The dude needs a Rick to his Morty (Barry).
Skii
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(05-20-2017, 01:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jorok Goldblade

Savitar gave Wally powers because he needed a speedster to help him escape the SPeed Force Trap, and he knew Wally was dumb and impulsive enough to fall for it.

But how does Savitar give Wally powers from Flashpoint? Even the Rival? Man I feel like there's so much to explain.
Septimus Prime
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(05-20-2017, 01:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Skii

But how does Savitar give Wally powers from Flashpoint? Even the Rival? Man I feel like there's so much to explain.

Bone transplant with calcified speed force.
BLOODED_hands
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(05-20-2017, 01:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Skii

But how does Savitar give Wally powers from Flashpoint? Even the Rival? Man I feel like there's so much to explain.

The Philosopher's Stone is literally the Particle Accelerator Explosion in small form with half of it being infused with the ashes of the undead dead Speedsters which gives it Speed Force powers.
randome
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(05-20-2017, 01:29 AM)
If you're reading this flash writers, introduce new villains and quit with the time shit please.
OdysseusVA
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(05-20-2017, 01:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by randome

If you're reading this flash writers, introduce new villains and quit with the time shit please.

No
ZeroX03
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(05-20-2017, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by StaticJam

Best case scenario:

  • Jessie gets promoted to series regular

You almost had it, then you screwed up badly.
StaticJam
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(05-20-2017, 02:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by ZeroX03

You almost had it, then you screwed up badly.

I put there in there just for you
Skux
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(05-20-2017, 05:15 AM)
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I'm caught up. Legitimately fantastic episode. Loved the sense of foreboding dread, and the fated outcome.
Realeza
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(05-20-2017, 07:57 AM)
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That was a top 10 Arrowverse episode. Top 5 even.

If they nail the ending, the season will end on a fucking high note.
Joni
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(05-20-2017, 08:57 AM)
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The problem is that most of us still don't believe they would kill Iris.
ZeroX03
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(05-20-2017, 09:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Realeza

That was a top 10 Arrowverse episode. Top 5 even.

If they nail the ending, the season will end on a fucking high note.

I thought this was the Arrow thread and was like "that post made sense", but Flash?
OdysseusVA
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(05-20-2017, 09:47 AM)
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caliph95
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(05-20-2017, 10:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Joni

The problem is that most of us still don't believe they would kill Iris.

They more they quintuple on it the less i believe it
strafer
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(05-20-2017, 10:43 AM)
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I didn't know Harry Potter existed in this universe.

Philoppsrers stone and all
caliph95
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(05-20-2017, 10:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by strafer

I didn't know Harry Potter existed in this universe.

Philoppsrers stone and all

Why do you think Malfoy was looking for it
Joni
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(05-20-2017, 10:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by strafer

I didn't know Harry Potter existed in this universe.

Philoppsrers stone and all

Realeza
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(05-20-2017, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Joni

The problem is that most of us still don't believe they would kill Iris.

Yeah. If somehow they save her, it will diminish its impact. But if she actually is gone, then everything about this season finally makes sense.
LotusHD
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(05-20-2017, 05:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by PHOENIXZERO

If they legit fridged Iris... Ugh, that would be a point of no return for the show IMO.

Yup, just get disappointed one way or another next week
Skii
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(05-20-2017, 05:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Realeza

Yeah. If somehow they save her, it will diminish its impact. But if she actually is gone, then everything about this season finally makes sense.

Yeah she has to actually die for this season to have some sort of sensible conclusion. But I find it really hard to believe that Barry wouldn't just crumble as a person from all the tragedies and just lock himself in the speedforce for good.
WrenchNinja
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(05-20-2017, 05:35 PM)
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I would be okay with them killing Iris if out of nowhere a breach opens up and Bart shows up and everyone goes what the fuck. this show has already stopped making any sense so

Lord Frieza
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(05-20-2017, 05:37 PM)
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I really hope next season there's no time travel lol. But I still want Barry to fuck up the timeline without even going back in time, somehow.
Sinatar
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(05-20-2017, 05:40 PM)
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Barry never even considered suicide? I mean Eddie showed him the way.
Skii
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(05-20-2017, 05:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sinatar

Barry never even considered suicide? I mean Eddie showed him the way.

He was going to kill himself to kill Savitar. But of course he's fucked up the timeline so much that it wouldn't affect the existence of current Savitar I think.
Stallion Dan
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(05-20-2017, 05:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Skii

But how does Savitar give Wally powers from Flashpoint? Even the Rival? Man I feel like there's so much to explain.

How did he control Julian? How does the speedforce trap make speedsters relive their worst moments?

I expect nothing answered.
Kabuki Waq
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(05-20-2017, 05:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by PHOENIXZERO

If they legit fridged Iris... Ugh, that would be a point of no return for the show IMO.


They didn't though because we already know she'll actually be alive and in season four.


It may actually make the show better as no more incest plot line. Maybe he will nab a multiverse Iris.
kylecoley182
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(05-20-2017, 05:45 PM)
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If the final rumor is true season 3 never happen
WedgeX
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(05-20-2017, 05:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Skii

He was going to kill himself to kill Savitar. But of course he's fucked up the timeline so much that it wouldn't affect the existence of current Savitar I think.

Except that Savitar lost his memory when Barry had his wiped.
Nabs
(05-20-2017, 05:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by kylecoley182

If the final rumor is true season 3 never happen

ShadyK54
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(05-20-2017, 06:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by kylecoley182

If the final rumor is true season 3 never happen


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