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see5harp
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(05-19-2017, 06:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Hindl

I'd think ecstasy would be the go-to there. Acid at EDM could go weird

Yea but you can't do MDMA like every day.
ElyrionX
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(05-19-2017, 06:52 PM)
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I won't say that this board encourages it but broadly, it certainly has a very accommodating attitude towards it.
phanphare
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(05-19-2017, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by see5harp

To be fair I'm sure someone here has mentioned that they were sipping codeine..

and that shit is fucked up and should be called out as such, I've never seen that on here though. I've seen that shit brought up as far as quoting trap lyrics goes but I've never seen a thread about trying codeine followed by people supporting that behavior.
Fenderputty
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(05-19-2017, 06:53 PM)
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The problem is treating drug use as though it's a crime. People who continue the status quo like cj_iwakura ensure the problem never ends.

Originally Posted by Sat0ri

Talk about derailing a thread, fucking Christ.

Not really ... see above post.
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Fenderputty
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(05-19-2017, 06:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

Oh sure, I'll just try it instead! Great idea! Come on. If I want my mind messed with, I'll join a cult.

The levels or arrogance and ignorance displayed here are astounding.
Hindl
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(05-19-2017, 06:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by see5harp

Yea but you can't do MDMA like every day.

Well yeah but I usually have at least one break day if I'm at a festival. Give everything a day to recoup. Plus acid in consecutive days takes more to get the same effect
metalslimer
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(05-19-2017, 06:55 PM)
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Also even if you think drug use is a problem saying all drugs are bad for you like this is some 80s PSA has been repeatedly shown to not work.
Meatfist
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(05-19-2017, 06:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

Or maybe the vast majority here are in favor of drug use. That's fine, I'm not going to change. Maybe one day the board will.

If you want to use moral absolutism as a means to feel superior to those of use who use recreational drugs then you do you boo, but at least be aware that patting yourself on the back for abstaining contributes nothing to the conversation at hand.

If solving the opioid epidemic was as simple as just telling people that drugs are bad and make you die that would be great, but nothing is that black and white
see5harp
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(05-19-2017, 06:56 PM)

Originally Posted by phanphare

and that shit is fucked up and should be called out as such, I've never seen that on here though. I've seen that shit brought up as far as quoting trap lyrics goes but I've never seen a thread about trying codeine followed by people supporting that behavior.

Yea that might be true. I don't think most people are aware that Codeine is a full on opiate either. Most people don't think of Vicodin as one either because most or all of us have gotten it at one point for wisdom teeth or some minor dental procedure.
Infinite Stars
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(05-19-2017, 06:56 PM)
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Real talk: the fact that Heroin Usage isn't being talked about by Sessions in the same Breath as Marijuana is baffling. One is quietly ravaging communities across the Midwest and has actual, long term consequences vs Marijuana being mostly fine.

Hell, I'm 90% certain in terms of "will fuck up your life" Marijuana is below Tobacco, and that shit is legal.

No, I don't do either, but to equate Marijuana with Heroin is stupid.
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(05-19-2017, 06:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by jay


You who? The people in charge are fine.

People in charge don't do heroin.

You == the group most effected by the heroin epidemic. America didn't care when it was the "others" with the heroin problems, throw them in jail, etc etc. Now that shit is ravaging middle America and we gotta do something about it, but sadly most of America doesn't care. Why? See the quote for more information.

Racism - Even when it hurts them brown/black folks, it ultimately ends up hurting the rest of America as well.

One day folks gonna learn.
LeleSocho
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(05-19-2017, 06:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Furio53

Define drug use. Is eating food drug use? because it causes a chemical reaction in your body, same as "drugs".

But cool, keep your rigid viewpoints based on falsities and ignorance.

You can't be so dense... you don't need drugs to survive and food doesn't heavily alter your state of mind.
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(05-19-2017, 06:57 PM)
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umop_3pisdn
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(05-19-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

Oh sure, I'll just try it instead! Great idea! Come on. If I want my mind messed with, I'll join a cult.

Well I guess you have the requisite baseless fanaticism to start one yourself.
Elchele
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(05-19-2017, 06:57 PM)

Originally Posted by Username1198

Show me where any gaf member has encouraged heroine use, get real, we like weed.

didn't a former mod ask money for his mom's treatment and then ended up using it on heroin? what a forum
jacob armitage
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(05-19-2017, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Elchele

didn't a former mod ask money for his mom's treatment and then ended up using it on heroin? what a forum

Addiction can make you do terrible things. It doesn't excuse ones actions, but it does help explain them.
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(05-19-2017, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Angelus Errare

People in charge don't do heroin.

You == the group most effected by the heroin epidemic. America didn't care when it was the "others" with the heroin problems, throw them in jail, etc etc. Now that shit is ravaging middle America and we gotta do something about it, but sadly most of America doesn't care. Why? See the quote for more information.

Racism - Even when it hurts them brown/black folks, it ultimately ends up hurting the rest of America as well.

One day folks gonna learn.

Hopefully, but SHARIA LAW!!!!
see5harp
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(05-19-2017, 06:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Elchele

didn't a former mod ask money for his mom's treatment and then ended up using it on heroin? what a forum

I remember this shit but don't wish to bring up names. Shit is fucked up.
many places
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(05-19-2017, 06:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

I said drug use. It's all bad.

Nah. Weed is good bruv.
TestOfTide
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(05-19-2017, 07:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure your dealers love you for it.

What the hell are you talking about?

Were you that kid in college who refused to go to parties because "Weed is for losers" and who called weed "dope"?
JustenP88
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(05-19-2017, 07:00 PM)

Originally Posted by Elchele

didn't a former mod ask money for his mom's treatment and then ended up using it on heroin? what a forum

Addiction is fucked up and it has nothing to do with "a forum."

My experience with heroin addicts has been that they come from sheltered, religious upbringings. Christianity, what a drug-enabling load of shit that is, huh?
cj_iwakura
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(05-19-2017, 07:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fenderputty

The levels or arrogance and ignorance displayed here are astounding.

On that we agree.
theWB27
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(05-19-2017, 07:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Infinite Stars

Real talk: the fact that Heroin Usage isn't being talked about by Sessions in the same Breath as Marijuana is baffling. One is quietly ravaging communities across the Midwest and has actual, long term consequences vs Marijuana being mostly fine.

Hell, I'm 90% certain in terms of "will fuck up your life" Marijuana is below Tobacco, and that shit is legal.

No, I don't do either, but to equate Marijuana with Heroin is stupid.

It's baffling when you use logic...but throw some racism in there and it'll be more clear.

Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

On that we agree.

Your willingness to be ignorant of what drugs do what isn't a badge you should wear gleefully.
TheLostBigBoss
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(05-19-2017, 07:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

On that we agree.

Congrats on the thread derail
Fenderputty
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(05-19-2017, 07:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

On that we agree.

The moral superiority of the "never did it" crown is often infuriatingly palpable.

Originally Posted by theWB27


Your willingness to be ignorant of what drugs do what isn't a badge you should wear gleefully.

I thought he meant I was being ignorant. I was definitely being arrogant. For someone who's so clean he's not very clear.
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TestOfTide
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(05-19-2017, 07:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

On that we agree.

Says the guy who thinks that all drugs are narcotics.
Lunarwhale
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(05-19-2017, 07:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

I said drug use. It's all bad.

I'm confused. What kind of drug use are you referring to? Recreational? Illegal? Medicinal?
besada
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(05-19-2017, 07:04 PM)
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Let's get back on topic.
Breads
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(05-19-2017, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

Funny, this board encourages drug use. Its part of the problem.

Crazy.

I've never seen anyone encourage opioids here.

That said I'm glad it's not a big issue here. I'm sure it's out here but it isn't prevalent enough for anyone in my life to be affected by it (that I am aware of), which is more than I can say for people I know in certain cities.
Last edited by Breads; 05-19-2017 at 07:07 PM.
Trojita
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(05-19-2017, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

It's a message board. Deal with it. This board needs to stop encouraging recreational drug use. It is a problem.

The irony of these 4 sentences in conjunction is astounding.
Mael
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(05-19-2017, 07:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Angelus Errare

People in charge don't do heroin.

You == the group most effected by the heroin epidemic. America didn't care when it was the "others" with the heroin problems, throw them in jail, etc etc. Now that shit is ravaging middle America and we gotta do something about it, but sadly most of America doesn't care. Why? See the quote for more information.

Racism - Even when it hurts them brown/black folks, it ultimately ends up hurting the rest of America as well.

One day folks gonna learn.

Where's that old african american proverb when you need it.....
jay
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(05-19-2017, 07:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Angelus Errare

People in charge don't do heroin.

You == the group most effected by the heroin epidemic. America didn't care when it was the "others" with the heroin problems, throw them in jail, etc etc. Now that shit is ravaging middle America and we gotta do something about it, but sadly most of America doesn't care. Why? See the quote for more information.

Racism - Even when it hurts them brown/black folks, it ultimately ends up hurting the rest of America as well.

One day folks gonna learn.

Ha thanks for the over-explanation. The pronoun 'you' looked to be tied to the quote, which was made not by the average American turning his blind eye to racism, but rather by someone in charge and so that's how I interpreted it.
Fenderputty
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(05-19-2017, 07:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by besada

Let's get back on topic.

Opioid addiction is awful. It persist largely because of attitudes that people like cj_iwakura have. "Drug use is bad, don't do drugs" is so removed from reality and it needs to be combated when seen.

We're in the middle of an Admin who wants to slash funds for combating opioid addiction while simultaneously increasing penalties for usage. This is largely because addiction is viewed in a less than humanistic way and cj_iwakura exemplifies this.
HStallion
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(05-19-2017, 07:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by LeleSocho

You can't be so dense... you don't need drugs to survive and food doesn't heavily alter your state of mind.

Except some people do need drugs to survive. Many people need Marijuana for a variety of reasons whether its pain relief for some or seizures for others.
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NeonBlack
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(05-19-2017, 07:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Angelus Errare

People in charge don't do heroin.

You == the group most effected by the heroin epidemic. America didn't care when it was the "others" with the heroin problems, throw them in jail, etc etc. Now that shit is ravaging middle America and we gotta do something about it, but sadly most of America doesn't care. Why? See the quote for more information.

Racism - Even when it hurts them brown/black folks, it ultimately ends up hurting the rest of America as well.

One day folks gonna learn.

It's kinda disturbing seeing government officials now wanting to help. Jails been the "correct" way to handle this for decades.
Calion
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(05-19-2017, 07:16 PM)
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My doctor thought it was appropriate to prescribe an opiod cough syrup for a milder cough a few months ago. Family practitioner and everything. It's crazy.
phanphare
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(05-19-2017, 07:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Calion

My doctor thought it was appropriate to prescribe an opiod cough syrup for a milder cough a few months ago. Family practitioner and everything. It's crazy.

iirc most heroin addiction starts with a legal prescription

the state of big pharma in america is all kinds of fucked up. they want customers as much as any other business.
PixlNinja
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(05-19-2017, 07:19 PM)
Marijuana is the only way my mother, who has fibromyalgia, is able to live a normal life without being all fucked up on painkillers.

Too bad we live in NJ, USA. Land of the free.
Hindl
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(05-19-2017, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by NeonBlack

It's kinda disturbing seeing government officials now wanting to help. Jails been the "correct" way to handle this for decades.

White people are being affected by the heroin epidemic now

Originally Posted by PixlNinja

Marijuana is the only way my mother, who has fibromyalgia, is able to live a normal life without being all fucked up on painkillers.

Too bad we live in NJ, USA. Land of the free.

Can't wait for that piece of shit Christie to get out
entremet
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(05-19-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Calion

My doctor thought it was appropriate to prescribe an opiod cough syrup for a milder cough a few months ago. Family practitioner and everything. It's crazy.

Codeine? It's usually very low doses in cough syrup.
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(05-19-2017, 07:20 PM)
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The 80's are back.
Kthulhu
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(05-19-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Extremely depressing. We really need to set up clinics.
Beartruck
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(05-19-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by NeonBlack

It's kinda disturbing seeing government officials now wanting to help. Jails been the "correct" way to handle this for decades.

A politician can ignore it when it's Jim bob ODing in his trailer, but when Susie's husband in the gated community down the street dies it gets real.

It was always a problem, but now its their problem.
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Zabka
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(05-19-2017, 07:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by PixlNinja

Marijuana is the only way my mother, who has fibromyalgia, is able to live a normal life without being all fucked up on painkillers.

Too bad we live in NJ, USA. Land of the free.

NJ has medical marijuana. http://nj.gov/health/medicalmarijuana/pat_faqs.shtml

My friend just got his card.

ETA: He does not have any of the conditions listed as a prereq but does has some kind of muscle issue in his neck that requires regular botox treatments. Come to think of it, it may fall under skeletal muscle spasticity.
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Hindl
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(05-19-2017, 07:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zabka

NJ has medical marijuana. http://nj.gov/health/medicalmarijuana/pat_faqs.shtml

My friend just got his card.

What do they have? NJ MM is only for extremely serious/terminal conditions, not sure fibromyalgia qualifies
Dingens
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(05-19-2017, 07:26 PM)
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I must still be asleep. For some reason I thought this thread was about female super heroes when I read the title.
What a disappointment
Malreyn
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(05-19-2017, 07:29 PM)

Originally Posted by entremet

Codeine? It's usually very low doses in cough syrup.

except people get their doctors to write them prescription for a pint and people just chug a whole bottle in one evening.
BHK3
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(05-19-2017, 07:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElectricBlanketFire

This board encourages hardcore drug use?

There was a thread where everyone was shrugging off cocaine and saying it wasn't as bad as something heroin.
see5harp
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(05-19-2017, 07:33 PM)

Originally Posted by entremet

Codeine? It's usually very low doses in cough syrup.

Not the sort that people want. A spoonful of prometh is a normal dose. Dudes are mixing half or full bottle with a two liter of soda.
entremet
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(05-19-2017, 07:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Malreyn

except people get their doctors to write them prescription for a pint and people just chug a whole bottle in one evening.

Ah, so I'm guessing these are ppl already addicted? I meant more getting addicted via cough syrup.

Could happen. I don't know, but from what I've read it's more painkillers that cause the addiction.

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