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KernelPanic
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(05-20-2017, 01:18 AM)
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Looks like they are trying to weasel their way out of this one:

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN18F2KK

The Trump administration is exploring whether it can use an obscure ethics rule to undermine the special counsel investigation into ties between President Donald Trump's campaign team and Russia, two people familiar with White House thinking said on Friday.

Trump has said that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's hiring of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to lead the investigation "hurts our country terribly."

Within hours of Mueller's appointment on Wednesday, the White House began reviewing the Code of Federal Regulations, which restricts newly hired government lawyers from investigating their prior law firmís clients for one year after their hiring, the sources said.

An executive order signed by Trump in January extended that period to two years.

Mueller's former law firm, WilmerHale, represents Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who met with a Russian bank executive in December, and the president's former campaign manager Paul Manafort, who is a subject of a federal investigation.

Legal experts said the ethics rule can be waived by the Justice Department, which appointed Mueller. He did not represent Kushner or Manafort directly at his former law firm.

If the department did not grant a waiver, Mueller would be barred from investigating Kushner or Manafort, and this could greatly diminish the scope of the probe, experts said.

Now they care about ethics
VeryGooster
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(05-20-2017, 01:19 AM)
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guilty people don't do this right
Carn82
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(05-20-2017, 01:20 AM)
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Lol, now why would they do that..
Barzul
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(05-20-2017, 01:20 AM)
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Bring it on, it'll only leak.
Randolph Freelander
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(05-20-2017, 01:21 AM)
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"Mr. President, we are a nation of laws and..."
"One moment. Laws are suspended. What else you got?"
Plinko
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(05-20-2017, 01:21 AM)
Go ahead and do this and seal every Republican Congressman's defeat in 2018.
yanipheonu
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(05-20-2017, 01:21 AM)
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I'm sure this will go poorly.
War Peaceman
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(05-20-2017, 01:22 AM)
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It is about ethics in treason
Wanda/Wander
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(05-20-2017, 01:22 AM)
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Please proceed, Mr. President.
Zaru
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(05-20-2017, 01:22 AM)
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"It's actually about ethics in special investigations"
Speevy
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(05-20-2017, 01:22 AM)
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RoyaleDuke
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(05-20-2017, 01:23 AM)
I hope it is about the ethics of hanging someone for treason in the modern day.

And I kinda hope they hang him, his cronies, and everyone that had a role in it for treason.
akira28
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(05-20-2017, 01:23 AM)
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We need an independent investigator. not a special investigator.

Trump can't be trusted even in this, lol, and why would he? he's a would be despot. Would you expect Mussolini to sit still?
RootCause
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(05-20-2017, 01:23 AM)
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The hell is wrong with these people.
Wyndstryker
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(05-20-2017, 01:23 AM)
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Mueller is probably aware of what the White House is doing and is already setting up countermeasures.
ericexpo
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(05-20-2017, 01:24 AM)
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I thought they picked muller?
LeonSPBR
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(05-20-2017, 01:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zaru

"It's actually about ethics in special investigations"

White house is becoming gamergaters... How low will they go.
kaskade
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(05-20-2017, 01:25 AM)
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Don't these fucking morons realize how much worse this makes them look? Just let it happen.
RoyaleDuke
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(05-20-2017, 01:25 AM)

Originally Posted by Wyndstryker

Mueller is probably aware of what the White House is doing and is already setting up countermeasures.



Fire all the guns, send off all the information battleships.
Malreyn
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(05-20-2017, 01:26 AM)
Sure...lets just pull out the old "emoluments clause", Logan Act , and anti-neopotism laws as a counter...
Deku Tree
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(05-20-2017, 01:26 AM)
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Wow Trump sure is acting like a guilty person.
Wag
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(05-20-2017, 01:26 AM)
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Do it.
BitStyle
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(05-20-2017, 01:26 AM)
That would be pouring oil on the fire
Common Knowledge
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(05-20-2017, 01:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gooster

guilty people don't do this right

That's the thing that gets me. If they were actually truly all innocent, they wouldn't give a shit about this and just let it all play out. Actively trying to impede it just brings even more attention to it and ensures it's going to keep escalating.
David___
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(05-20-2017, 01:27 AM)
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"Its about the ethics in...."


Originally Posted by Zaru

"It's actually about ethics in special investigations"

dammit
NullPointer
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(05-20-2017, 01:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Deku Tree

Wow Trump sure is acting like a guilty person.

The guiltiest.
Reverend Funk
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(05-20-2017, 01:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gooster

guilty people don't do this right

of course not, it would make them look too guilty
Cerium
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(05-20-2017, 01:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by RootCause

The hell is wrong with these people.

What would you do if you and your family were at risk of going to jail?

They're fighting for their lives.
SwordStruck
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(05-20-2017, 01:28 AM)
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What a piece of shit. No way this happens, and if it does I'd bet 100% the Senate won't stand for it.
Zeus Molecules
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(05-20-2017, 01:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Malreyn

Sure...lets just pull out the old "emoluments clause", Logan Act , and anti-neopotism laws as a counter...

Right..... the most unethical White House ever (not even involving the collusion case) wants to bring up obscure ethic laws now.
Glitchesarecool
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(05-20-2017, 01:28 AM)
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Reading the full article it sounds like this would probably not come into play, but it's the White House's attempt to paint Mueller as biased or something of that sort.
NullPointer
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(05-20-2017, 01:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cerium

What would you do if you and your family were at risk of going to jail?

Resign.
wisdom0wl
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(05-20-2017, 01:30 AM)
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Definitely won't backfire.
Sobriquet
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(05-20-2017, 01:30 AM)
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Vincent Alexander
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(05-20-2017, 01:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by NullPointer

Resign.

Yep. Then get my ass out of the country.
akira28
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(05-20-2017, 01:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by BitStyle

That would be pouring oil on the fire

all that does is create tons more smoke, and a longer burning, hotter but not necessarily higher fire.
KernelPanic
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(05-20-2017, 01:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by RootCause

The hell is wrong with these people.

Trump's biographer said it best. Trump doesn't do right or wrong, it's all about winning and losing.

Of course his definition of "winning" is more like Charlie Sheen.

The special prosecutor is a loss.

Finding some obscure rule to weaken Mueller is a "win".
Host Samurai
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(05-20-2017, 01:31 AM)
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Now they all of a sudden care about ethics.
jelly
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(05-20-2017, 01:31 AM)

Originally Posted by NullPointer

Resign.

Would that stop the FBI though, I would hope not, don't care if his family or friends are involved, don't let them slip away. The worse thing that could happen if he resigns is leave them alone calls.
Username1198
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(05-20-2017, 01:32 AM)
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He is the "law" and "order" candidate after all.

Lmao oh man
Cerium
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(05-20-2017, 01:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by NullPointer

Resign.

That doesn't protect you from prosecution.
Maxim726X
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(05-20-2017, 01:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by War Peaceman

It is about ethics in treason

Perfect.
gabbo
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(05-20-2017, 01:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zeus Molecules

Right..... the most unethical White House ever (not even involving the collusion case) wants to bring up obscure ethic laws now.

Of course, that's how Republicans treat all laws. It's only an issue when it could harm them
Tamanon
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(05-20-2017, 01:32 AM)
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I refuse to believe that Trump's team knows what ethics are.
GameAddict411
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(05-20-2017, 01:33 AM)
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Good. More evidence of obstruction of justice.
Magwik
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(05-20-2017, 01:33 AM)

Originally Posted by jelly

Would that stop the FBI though, I would hope not, don't care if his family or friends are involved, don't let them slip away. The worse thing that could happen if he resigns is leave them alone calls.

It's a lot easier to flee to Russia when you're not the sitting US President
TheCochese
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(05-20-2017, 01:34 AM)
Do it and we'll come with torches and pitchforks.
LeonSPBR
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(05-20-2017, 01:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cerium

That doesn't protect you from prosecution.

All the better.
PhoenixDawn
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(05-20-2017, 01:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tamanon

I refuse to believe that Trump's team knows what ethics are.

They actually don't, I remember reading several stories around his inauguration/first month that the WH was pushing to get rid of their entire ethics department and also loosen up/completely eliminate the mandatory ethics training for WH staff members.
jelly
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(05-20-2017, 01:34 AM)
There is still that old thing about rich people getting away with it, yeah he isn't a billionaire but god, they always seem to get off easy when they get caught. I can easily imagine the media going for Ivanka crocodile tears, leave Ivanka alone.

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