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SwiftDeath
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(05-20-2017, 12:34 AM)
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I feel like a non-insignificant portion of the people who were all "if you have nothing to hide, then what do you care?" about Prism/Snowden probably voted for Trump but I'm sure they still think he's innocent
CrazyDude
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(05-20-2017, 12:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Glitchesarecool

Reading the full article it sounds like this would probably not come into play, but it's the White House's attempt to paint Mueller as biased or something of that sort.

Fox News is already saying the Mueller is biased because of Comey's firing.
Metalingus5150
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(05-20-2017, 12:35 AM)
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Probably trying to find a way to make him look bad without bad mouthing him too much like they did with Comey.
Derwind
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(05-20-2017, 12:36 AM)
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Almost everything out of the White House already has a light of suspicion cast one it and yet they always find a way to make them look even more guilty than before.
akira28
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(05-20-2017, 12:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Username1198

He is the "law" and "order" candidate after all.

Lmao oh man

for some reason I always felt he meant 're-order the laws as I see fit.'
Surfinn
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(05-20-2017, 12:41 AM)
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Can somebody explain to me what they're trying to do here.. In baby Trump terms with lots of pictures?
Zolo
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(05-20-2017, 12:41 AM)
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'This will be the end of the investigation for sure,' says increasingly nervous president.

Durden77
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(05-20-2017, 12:41 AM)
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So fucked up.
IrishNinja
(05-20-2017, 12:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Common Knowledge

That's the thing that gets me. If they were actually truly all innocent, they wouldn't give a shit about this and just let it all play out. Actively trying to impede it just brings even more attention to it and ensures it's going to keep escalating.

it's so incredibly transparent too, you'd think we were dealing with a failed businessman and not a career politician
Armaros
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(05-20-2017, 12:47 AM)
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The only way this works is if they can get rosenstien to refuse to give the permission. Sessions gets no word on it because it involves the invesigston.
Electric Eye
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(05-20-2017, 12:48 AM)
Using obscure ethic laws signed in as executive orders to impede justice on yourself is still impeding justice and would never fly because you cannot makes laws or executive orders that shield you from justice. No one is above the law and if the White House lawyers think they could argue this in front of any judge. Well good luck.gif

What is his counsels record on winning implementation executive orders brought in front of judges? Yeah...
Polishin8r
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(05-20-2017, 12:50 AM)
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I can't wait till this idiot is out
serenewarfare
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(05-20-2017, 12:52 AM)
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It sounds like it wouldn't happen.

It says the rule can be waived by the justice department. If Sessions is recused, that would mean the power to waive it would fall with Rosenstein, and obviously he would waive it because he appointed Mueller.
shiba5
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(05-20-2017, 12:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Armaros

The only way this works is if they can get rosenstien to refuse to give the permission. Sessions gets no word on it because it involves the invesigston.

Yeah, that was my first thought as well.
Boke1879
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(05-20-2017, 12:53 AM)
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Trump's people started calling reporters as soon as Air Force One took off. They like "He ain't bringing me down with him"
Durden77
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(05-20-2017, 12:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by serenewarfare

It sounds like it wouldn't happen.

It says the rule can be waived by the justice department. If Sessions is recused, that would mean the power to waive it would fall with Rosenstein, and obviously he would waive it because he appointed Mueller.

Recusing himself didn't stop him from "recommending" the firing of Comey. If Sessions knows this investigation is putting him in hot water, he might say fuck it and step in and no one will care just like the fact everyone barely mentioned his hand in firing Comey.

I kind of have a bad feeling about this.
Nafai1123
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(05-20-2017, 12:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zolo

'This will be the end of the investigation for sure,' says increasingly nervous president.

LOL perfect.
Armaros
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(05-20-2017, 12:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by shiba5

Yeah, that was my first thought as well.

They would also need the courts to uphold it involving this case, which I doubt they would come down on the side of the WH
serenewarfare
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(05-20-2017, 12:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Durden77

Recusing himself didn't stop him from "recommending" the firing of Comey. If Sessions know this investigation is outting him in hit water, he might say fuck it and step in and no one will care just like the fact that barely mentioned his hand in firing Comey

I kind of have a bad feeling about this.

That;s not how it works. He legally cannot have a say in the investigation. He has no legal power to go to a court and invoke this ethics rule on Mueller and the investigation.

Only Rosenstein does.
shiba5
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(05-20-2017, 12:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Armaros

They would also need the courts to uphold it involving this case, which I doubt they would come down on the side of the WH

Right.
Netherscourge
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(05-20-2017, 12:58 AM)
Trump is admitting guilt if he does this.
Lazy vs Crazy
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(05-20-2017, 12:59 AM)
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So the purpose of this regulation, as far as I can tell, is so that lawyers don't go easy on prior clients. I don't think that is a concern here?
SwordStruck
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(05-20-2017, 01:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Netherscourge

Trump is admitting guilt if he does this.

Yep. As if firing Comey didn't already make it extremely obvious, doing this would be impossible to ignore no matter what party has the majority.
3rdman
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(05-20-2017, 01:02 AM)

Originally Posted by SwordStruck



What a piece of shit. No way this happens, and if it does I'd bet 100% the Senate won't stand for it.

I almost hope it does.. Another clear sign of obstruction...the more he wiggles, the tighter the noose becomes.
TheCochese
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(05-20-2017, 01:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zolo

'This will be the end of the investigation for sure,' says increasingly nervous president.

I'm stealing this and never giving you credit.



;)
Zolo
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(05-20-2017, 01:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by TheCochese

I'm stealing this and never giving you credit.



;)

Knew I should have copyrighted it. :(
Fast Forward
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(05-20-2017, 01:25 AM)
Gee, I wonder why they would want to do that.
Fast Forward
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(05-20-2017, 01:26 AM)

Originally Posted by SwordStruck

Yep. As if firing Comey didn't already make it extremely obvious, doing this would be impossible to ignore no matter what party has the majority.

Hannity will find a way to spin it, I'm sure.
cameron
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(05-20-2017, 01:28 AM)
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Cute.

But the administration is now mainly focused on placing a cloud over his reputation for independence, according to the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Kathleen Clark, a professor of legal ethics at Washington University School of Law, said the Justice Department can grant a waiver if concerns about bias are minimal.

She said subjects of the investigation could later argue that its results cannot be trusted, but she believes the argument would not stand up in court.

It's desperate and very goofy. Good luck with all that.
gruenel
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(05-20-2017, 01:29 AM)
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Clearly they have nothing to hide and it's all just a librul conspiracy.
TheBryanJZX90
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(05-20-2017, 01:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lazy vs Crazy

So the purpose of this regulation, as far as I can tell, is so that lawyers don't go easy on prior clients. I don't think that is a concern here?

There are also ethical rules for attorneys that prevent them from opposing prior clients because it is unfair to the prior client. That seems separate from this federal statute.
KernelPanic
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(05-20-2017, 01:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by cameron

Cute.

It's desperate and very goofy. Good luck with all that.

Desperate and goofy has been their MO since inauguration.
Karsticles
(05-20-2017, 01:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by cameron

Cute.

It's desperate and very goofy. Good luck with all that.

The Fox News propaganda has already started:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...l-counsel.html
MIMIC
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(05-20-2017, 01:31 AM)
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Mueller's former law firm, WilmerHale, represents Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who met with a Russian bank executive in December, and the president's former campaign manager Paul Manafort, who is a subject of a federal investigation.

Washington, DC: where EVERYONE is separated by 1 degree.
Freeza Under The Shower
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(05-20-2017, 01:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Polishin8r

I can't wait till this idiot is out

well... you'll get Pence or Ryan right after that though. And despite being 'career' Republicans, those are not really much better with the undying hatred of anything Obama, female, or non-white. They're just slightly less dumb.
titiklabingapat
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(05-20-2017, 01:34 AM)
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Let them try. This just mean more charges will be handed out when the time comes. This will ensure that this takes Trump plus many other people that are complicit in this whole traitorous affair.

Originally Posted by Freeza Under The Shower

well... you'll get Pence or Ryan right after that though. And despite being 'career' Republicans, those are not really much better with the undying hatred of anything Obama, female, or non-white. They're just slightly less dumb.

This will not be easily handwaved away. Anyone and anything associated with Trump and company will be put through the firepit. Ryan and McConnell included. It took about 8 years before the Bush stank went away. And Jeb! paid a heavy price for it.
Last edited by titiklabingapat; 05-20-2017 at 01:36 AM.
Epsilon-delta
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(05-20-2017, 01:35 AM)
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Go ahead and do it Trump and be responsible for the GOP getting their ass handed to them in 2018.
Dead Prince
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(05-20-2017, 01:37 AM)
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Nothing suspicious about thia
Hours Left
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(05-20-2017, 01:39 AM)
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Considering Mueller was Rosenstein's pick, he'll certainly waive the rule.
CrocMother
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(05-20-2017, 01:40 AM)
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The amount of things stacking up on the "if he wasn't guilty why would he do X" pile is getting high.
gabbo
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(05-20-2017, 01:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by CrocMother

The amount of things stacking up on the "if he wasn't guilty why would he do X" pile is getting high.

It was a pretty tall order before he even set foot on that escalator
CrocMother
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(05-20-2017, 01:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Freeza Under The Shower

well... you'll get Pence or Ryan right after that though. And despite being 'career' Republicans, those are not really much better with the undying hatred of anything Obama, female, or non-white. They're just slightly less dumb.

Just until 2018/2020. I'm definitely cynical after the election, but I still believe that a Trump impeachment will remove the Republican majority in Congress.
Unknown One
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(05-20-2017, 01:42 AM)
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Pretty sure the GOP doesn't even know the meaning of ethics.
balladofwindfishes
(05-20-2017, 01:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hours Left

Considering Mueller was Rosenstein's pick, he'll certainly waive the rule.

Which makes this all the stranger

It's just making people think you're guilty for no actual benefit.
QisTopTier
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(05-20-2017, 01:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Karsticles

The Fox News propaganda has already started:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...l-counsel.html

LOL The music
Septimus Prime
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(05-20-2017, 01:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hours Left

Considering Mueller was Rosenstein's pick, he'll certainly waive the rule.

Then Trump fires Rosenstein. Checkmate.

...right?
Gai Murakumo
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(05-20-2017, 01:46 AM)
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He is really trying to weasel himself out of this. By attempting to do this you are just making yourself look more guilty. If you have nothing to hide why would you go to these lengths to weaken or stall an investigation Mr. President? I hope this backfires on him hard.
WedgeX
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(05-20-2017, 01:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zolo

'This will be the end of the investigation for sure,' says increasingly nervous president.

Finally this can come to pass.
sangreal
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(05-20-2017, 01:47 AM)
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So in other words they read politico
SuperStiltzkin
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(05-20-2017, 01:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zaru

"It's actually about ethics in special investigations"

Damn you.

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