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Hollywood Duo
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(05-20-2017, 02:47 AM)
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Always hated how MVP voting is full of edgelords who don't want to pick the same guy every year.


http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news...i1qofdjjr1uqem
RareFantasy64
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(05-20-2017, 02:48 AM)
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I feel like the Cavs lost every game where he rested. How is he not in the running for this?
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(05-20-2017, 02:49 AM)
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He wasn't the MVP of the regular season? Ok.
Trey
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(05-20-2017, 02:49 AM)

Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

Always hated how MVP voting is full of edgelords who don't want to pick the same guy every year.


http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news...i1qofdjjr1uqem

He'll win Finals MVP if he deserves the recognition, don't worry.
Magilla
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(05-20-2017, 02:49 AM)
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I'm ready for some fucking hot takes!
alr1ght
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(05-20-2017, 02:50 AM)
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MVP is not the best player. Everyone knows he's the best player.
Hollywood Duo
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(05-20-2017, 02:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by User33

It'a a regular season award OP.

I'm aware. Lebron is so far ahead of everyone else it's a joke.
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(05-20-2017, 02:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by User33

It'a a regular season award OP.

Yrup. And last I checked they only won 51 games with by far the best roster in the junior varsity conference. His stats were great but so were those of the three finalists. None can sniff Curry from last year though.
ISWThunder
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(05-20-2017, 02:51 AM)
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He's the best player in the league, But he knows that the regular season is meaningless. He could win MVP if he wants to. He's interested in rings.
Earthbound64
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(05-20-2017, 02:52 AM)

Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

Always hated how MVP voting is full of edgelords who don't want to pick the same guy every year.

Sports awards voting (MVPs, Cy Young, etc.) have been jokes for ages.
Hollywood Duo
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(05-20-2017, 02:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by alr1ght

MVP is not the best player. Everyone knows he's the best player.

By definition it's the best player.
phanphare
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(05-20-2017, 02:52 AM)
there's nothing wrong with this. harden, russ, and kawhi were better choices for mvp this season. I'd put IT over Lebron too. it's just a regular season award, nothing to get up in arms over. he's still the best player in the league. that's not an automatic mvp though.

Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

By definition it's the best player.

no it's not
ianpm31
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(05-20-2017, 02:52 AM)
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most likely Westbrook is mvp
Magilla
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(05-20-2017, 02:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

By definition it's the best player.

Mmm. Feed me!

Let's discuss Jordan v. Lebron
Bad_Boy
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(05-20-2017, 02:53 AM)
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westbrook
Kusagari
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(05-20-2017, 02:53 AM)
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Realistically, Bron should get it every year. But they're never going to do that.
Zukkoyaki
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(05-20-2017, 02:53 AM)
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Slightly off-topic but Zach Randolph should have been on the short list for 6th man of the year. Averaged a near double-double off the bench and won a lot of games for the Grizz.

As for the main topic, eh, what can you do? Lebron won his awards and it's not like those other guys don't deserve it.
Hollywood Duo
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(05-20-2017, 02:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by User33

Let me rephrase.

It's a regular season performance award.

Why is there a vote then? Put the stats in to a computer.
Just_myles
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(05-20-2017, 02:54 AM)
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Just give it to Westbrook. He had a record breaking season afaik and was not injured. He deserves it.
ianpm31
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(05-20-2017, 02:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zukkoyaki

Slightly off-topic but Zach Randolph should have been on the short list for 6th man of the year. Averaged a near double-double off the bench and won a lot of games for the Grizz.

As for the main topic, eh, what can you do? Lebron won his awards and it's not like those other guys don't deserve it.

Tell me about it. Makes no sense
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(05-20-2017, 02:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kusagari

Realistically, Bron should get it every year.

Why? Its a regular season award and he doesn't have the best stats and his team doesn't have one of the best records.
cubicle47b
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(05-20-2017, 02:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Trey

He'll win Finals MVP if he deserves the recognition, don't worry.

Well, if he's on the winning team.

He was 4th in voting. That seems about right for the effort he puts into the regular season and the historical performances by Westbrook and Harden. Plus Kawhi is up for DPOY and is an incredibly efficient scorer.
Randolph Freelander
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(05-20-2017, 02:56 AM)
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The short list this year should just be YNB.

Bron knows he's still the best, though.
Magilla
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(05-20-2017, 02:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by offtopic

Why? Its a regular season award and he doesn't have the best stats and his team doesn't have one of the best records.

But having only watched the last 12 playoff games I feel he had the best regular season performance.
Lothar
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(05-20-2017, 02:57 AM)

Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

By definition it's the best player.

Says a person very new to the NBA.
Hollywood Duo
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(05-20-2017, 02:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Magilla

Mmm. Feed me!

Let's discuss Jordan v. Lebron

Jordan all day, Bron has been playing in a joke league for 10 years.

Originally Posted by Lothar

Says a person very new to the NBA.

I'm new to the NBA? I was bumping the NBA on NBC theme out my college dorm window when you were in diapers.
Perfect Blue
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(05-20-2017, 02:57 AM)
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Meh, he's had his time.

This isn't as embarrassing as the year they gave it to that bum Derrick Rose because they were tired of LeBron winning every year.
JavyOO7
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(05-20-2017, 02:57 AM)
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I think Westbrook wins it because the people voting like the idea behind his triple double average for the year.

Lebron deserves the MVP most years because without him, his team becomes well... not that good of a well oiled machine...
Magilla
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(05-20-2017, 02:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

Jordan all day, Bron has been playing in a joke league for 10 years.

So his stats are meaningless. I agree.
Jarate
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(05-20-2017, 02:59 AM)
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Where the fuck is TJ McConnell?
shira
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(05-20-2017, 03:00 AM)
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Best Style of the Year?
Trey
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(05-20-2017, 03:00 AM)

Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

By definition it's the best player.

It's to recognize the player who had the most outstanding season in the NBA that year. No more, no less.
erlim
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(05-20-2017, 03:01 AM)
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This is what usually happens. You have to accomidate guys that are having career years and getting to Lebron's echelon. Otherwise he would have won every year. Even through Kobe's championship years.

Same reason Barkley and Malone won during Jordan's time.
mjp2417
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(05-20-2017, 03:01 AM)
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There is nothing particularly surprising or controversial about this
Hollywood Duo
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(05-20-2017, 03:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by JavyOO7

I think Westbrook wins it because the people voting like the idea behind his triple double average for the year.

Lebron deserves the MVP most years because without him, his team becomes well... not that good of a well oiled machine...

You are probably right even tho I think Westbrook was clearly padding his stats.
HeySeuss
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(05-20-2017, 03:03 AM)
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He'd win it damn near every year if it was legit. It's more for the breakout star award than a true MVP
ianpm31
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(05-20-2017, 03:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

Jordan all day, Bron has been playing in a joke league for 10 years.

Jordan easily.

Hand-check vs ticky tack

Half-court offense (less possessions to score, defense is set) vs free-style uptempo (more possessions, less chances for the defense to be set)

If Jordan played in today's league, this man would be at the free-throw line all-day long. As I mentioned above, Jordan averaged a career 30ppg in a hand-check/ half-court league.
Trey
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(05-20-2017, 03:10 AM)

Originally Posted by HeySeuss

He'd win it damn near every year if it was legit. It's more for the breakout star award than a true MVP

LeBron coasts all season and puts up MVP caliber stats. But it's not an award about potential, it's an award for results, and Harden and Westbrook both had superior regular seasons.
Servbot24
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(05-20-2017, 03:11 AM)
Guy who didn't have the best regular season isn't winning regular season award. Sounds good.
Crimson_Echidna
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(05-20-2017, 03:11 AM)
Lebron is an example of being too good for his own good. Not trying to make a hot-take, but I don't forsee him being the front runner for the MVP award anymore. Fair or not, the media has already come to expect Lebron's great seasons as being the norm, and since he now coasts more through regularly season, his feats are going to get overshadowed by players who are having amazing season (see Curry last season, and Westbrook and Harden this season.)
Hollywood Duo
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(05-20-2017, 03:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Servbot24

Guy who didn't have the best regular season isn't winning regular season award. Sounds good.

I'd still put him in the top 3.
theWB27
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(05-20-2017, 03:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by ianpm31

Jordan easily.

Hand-check vs ticky tack

Half-court offense (less possessions to score, defense is set) vs free-style uptempo (more possessions, less chances for the defense to be set)

If Jordan played in today's league, this man would be at the free-throw line all-day long. As I mentioned above, Jordan averaged a career 30ppg in a hand-check/ half-court league.

And lebron would've wrecked Jordan's nba.
Servbot24
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(05-20-2017, 03:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

I'd still put him in the top 3.

If you compared only offense yeah, but Kawhi lapped LeBron on defense, that puts him over the edge.
The Lone Courier
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(05-20-2017, 03:17 AM)
Well not surprising with how Westbrook and Harden played this year. Forgot about Leonard and I.T.
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(05-20-2017, 03:19 AM)
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I knew he would get punished for treating the regular season like an 82 game pre-season but I didn't think it would be this much. I'm sure you will hear a lot of "well Jordan gave his all for 82 games...".
Syphon Filter
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(05-20-2017, 03:19 AM)
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Leonard is mvp
RootCause
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(05-20-2017, 03:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

Always hated how MVP voting is full of edgelords who don't want to pick the same guy every year.


http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news...i1qofdjjr1uqem

Lol that's just insane.
phanphare
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(05-20-2017, 03:21 AM)

Originally Posted by Syphon Filter

Leonard is mvp

yep. smokes harden and russ on defense.
Apath
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(05-20-2017, 03:21 AM)
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It is not just voter fatigue. You have multiple people doing amazing things this year, last year, and the year before.
Undefined
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(05-20-2017, 03:22 AM)
He was kinda coasting in the regular season, even though he was still great.
He will probably coast even more in the coming years, but then explode in the playoffs like he is right now.

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