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lightning2k3
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(05-20-2017, 01:56 AM)
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/statu...31628034912256

Just announced on CNN as well.

Article posted.

http://us.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politic...nce/index.html

Russian officials bragged in conversations during the presidential campaign that they had cultivated a strong relationship with former Trump adviser retired Gen. Michael Flynn and believed they could use him to influence Donald Trump and his team, sources told CNN.

The conversations picked up by US intelligence officials indicated the Russians regarded Flynn as an ally, sources said. That relationship developed throughout 2016, months before Flynn was caught on an intercepted call in December speaking with Russia's ambassador in Washington, Sergey Kislyak. That call, and Flynn's changing story about it, ultimately led to his firing as Trump's first national security adviser.

One major concern for Obama administration officials was the subject of conversations between Flynn and Kislyak that took place shortly after Obama slapped new sanctions on Russia for meddling in the election. Sources tell CNN that Flynn told Kislyak that the Trump administration would look favorably on a decision by Russia to hold off on retaliating with its own sanctions. The next day, Putin said he wouldn't retaliate.

Sources say Flynn also told Kislyak that the incoming Trump administration would revisit US sanctions on Russia once in office. The US has applied sanctions on Russia since 2014 for its actions in Ukraine.

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Wanda/Wander
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(05-20-2017, 01:57 AM)
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chadskin
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(05-20-2017, 01:57 AM)
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Full story: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/19/po...nce/index.html
Prost
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(05-20-2017, 01:58 AM)
CHC
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(05-20-2017, 01:58 AM)
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Man, this week.

I mean, with regards to the headline itself: no shit. But it's just more on the pile.
Kard8p3
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(05-20-2017, 01:58 AM)
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oh god I can't wait for Trump to get off the plane, what time is that expected to be?
Agent Icebeezy
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(05-20-2017, 01:58 AM)
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But yet, Trump wants Flynn to stay strong.
OK comrade...
Surfinn
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(05-20-2017, 01:58 AM)
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I think it was working considering he wants Flynn to come back to the white house.
KINGofCRA5H
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(05-20-2017, 01:58 AM)
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I mean, really? Ya think so?
Wanda/Wander
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(05-20-2017, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kard8p3

oh god I can't wait for Trump to get off the plane, what time is that expected to be?

Moscow is pretty far...
Thoraxes
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(05-20-2017, 01:59 AM)
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Jesus
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ZeoVGM
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(05-20-2017, 01:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by Prost

We were so close to a competent, smart, well-versed person as president.

And half the country said, "Screw that. We want a racist dumb fuck."
Darryl M R
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(05-20-2017, 01:59 AM)
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Kyzer
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(05-20-2017, 01:59 AM)
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Does that mean Trump was unwitting?
CHC
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(05-20-2017, 02:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kard8p3

oh god I can't wait for Trump to get off the plane, what time is that expected to be?

He never will. He'll pull an Assange and just remain in the airplane until the end of his term, receive mid-air refuelings and food transfers.
Metalingus5150
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(05-20-2017, 02:00 AM)

Originally Posted by ZeoVGM

We were so close to a competent, smart, well-versed person as president.

And half the country said, "Screw that. We want a racist dumb fuck."

Way less than half the country.
Ihyll
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(05-20-2017, 02:00 AM)
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Holy shit
XenodudeX
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(05-20-2017, 02:01 AM)
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Doesn't this mean Trump didn't really know whats going on?
bluethree
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(05-20-2017, 02:01 AM)

Originally Posted by Darryl M R

The best projection!
Host Samurai
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(05-20-2017, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by XenodudeX

Doesn't this mean Trump didn't really know whats going on?

He definitely knows lol
polyh3dron
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(05-20-2017, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kyzer

Does that mean Trump was unwitting?

That'd be an acceptable scenario. He's already going down for obstruction, the Russia thing will just take down the rest of the administration.
Joeku
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(05-20-2017, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by XenodudeX

Doesn't this mean Trump didn't really know whats going on?

Honestly if everyone around him was working with the Russians and he was just sitting in his high chair eating Cheerios, unaware of all of it, that might even be worse. It would just solidify how stupid he appears.
Nowy
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(05-20-2017, 02:02 AM)
I don't think history books will be able to capture just how insane the past week and a half has been.
Baron von Loathsome
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(05-20-2017, 02:02 AM)
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The IC is going blitzkrieg today.
Vyse The Legend
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(05-20-2017, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by XenodudeX

Doesn't this mean Trump didn't really know whats going on?

It means he was definitely obstructing justice, at the very minimum. There are plenty of other stories about Trump and his own ties to Russia. This story just shows that Flynn was absolutely on the take.
DonShula
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(05-20-2017, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kyzer

Does that mean Trump was unwitting?

Yeah that's all I read between the lines in the above article.
iRAWRasaurus
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(05-20-2017, 02:02 AM)
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Drip drip drip
Surfinn
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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Just because they used Flynn to influence Trump doesn't mean he didn't purposefully collude with Russians
Brashnir
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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The Friday Night Massacre.
kingocfs
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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Flynn is fucked.
TheBryanJZX90
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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Well I guess now that the cat is out of the bg it's actually ok for Flynn to come back! Can't be blackmailed if everyone already knows the secret the blackmailer is holding over your head.
kevin1025
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by XenodudeX

Doesn't this mean Trump didn't really know whats going on?

Either Trump is incredibly stupid or he knew.

So your guess is as good as mine.
Spyder_Monkey
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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This is like an arrested development episode except it's real, scary and we're fucked.
teiresias
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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But he's a good guy, they should find their way to letting this go.
blue_phazon
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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This sucks. We already know Flynn is gonna get the book. This just means Trump was unaware and "safe"

I want to see Trump in cuffs.
StopMakingSense
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by XenodudeX

Doesn't this mean Trump didn't really know whats going on?

Imagine the number of Russians who would know that the President of the US is under Putin's influence, compared to Flynn, who would be the much more active agent.
HP_Wuvcraft
(05-20-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Darryl M R

Jesus, they actually could use this, though, to say everything Was Flynn.
How About No
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(05-20-2017, 02:04 AM)
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"We are confident that when these inquiries are complete there will be no evidence to support any collusion between the campaign and Russia," a White House official said in a statement. "...This matter is not going to distract the President or this administration from its work to bring back jobs and keep America safe."

Oh you, unnamed White House official!
Pai Pai Master
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(05-20-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by iRAWRasaurus

Drip drip drip

drip drip drip
WedgeX
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(05-20-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Just last week some were chastising us, claiming the Russia connections and Comey's firing were being blown out of proportion.

Vindication so quickly is...something else.
Stinkles
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(05-20-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Darryl M R

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfX0H9v5_3k
Wanda/Wander
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(05-20-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by XenodudeX

Doesn't this mean Trump didn't really know whats going on?

The reason why Trump wants to try to contact Flynn is because Flynn knows EVERYTHING.

Trump being loyal to Flynn is just a misdirection. Trump only cares about himself.
Bulk_Rate
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(05-20-2017, 02:04 AM)
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I don't think any American has potentially been in as much legal trouble as Michael Flynn in my lifetime. Anyone know whether he's still subject to UCMJ or if other Federal charges would override that?
rokkerkory
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(05-20-2017, 02:05 AM)
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LOCK HIM UP!!
Vestal
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(05-20-2017, 02:05 AM)
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Today in Trump land...




You get 4!
npm0925
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(05-20-2017, 02:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by rokkerkory

LOCK HIM UP!!

Traitors should get the electric chair or gas chamber.
King Tubby
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(05-20-2017, 02:05 AM)
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This smells like trying to set up Flynn as a patsy. The fact that Trump so stridently defended him even with innumerable red flags staring him in the face remains suspicious.

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