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Magnus
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(08-21-2014, 12:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Moofers

Disclaimer: I am a temporary contracted worker at a company and am interviewing there today for a permanent position. Its in a different department, hence the interview.

Before landing the contracted position, I spent months last year looking for work while paying the bills doing Apple tech support. That period was kind of soul-crushing because I submitted countless applications that went nowhere, and had a handful of interviews that went nowhere. All the interviews had the same competency questions like "Tell us about a time when you displayed your adaptability by blah blah blah" etc. I didn't hate the Apple gig with all my being, but I couldn't see myself doing that for much longer than I did and remaining sane. Plus the pay was absolute shit, which served as a motivator for enduring the applications and interviews.

Prepping for today's interview has kind of taken me back to that period where I was just depressed and burned out from applying all over. I realize its a bit different since I already have my foot in the door here, but I'm dreading the questions and the sterile, cold feeling I get from these. But at the same time, its super important that I do well because if my contract runs out and I haven't landed a perma-gig, I'll be back to where I was last year.

Anyone else out there enduring the challenges of applying and doing interviews?

Yup. But without the comfort of already being temp'd somewhere, let alone within the company I'm interviewing at. So you're good, man! Sell yourself like crazy and make every interview question response an opportunity to highlight one of your strengths. You got this!

Woah. While I was typing this I got a request for freelance VoiceOver work. Score!
plantedunicorn
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(08-21-2014, 12:25 AM)
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Random ass question when you're applying for Government jobs and they ask for your transcript in place of experience. Are they really asking that to see how you did in school or just to see if you actually did graduate?

I've been reluctant to apply to any government jobs because my grades weren't that great in college but I'm thinking I have nothing to lose if I just go for it.
Dartastic
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(08-21-2014, 12:33 AM)
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Curious, but how useful ARE cover letters anyway? I feel like they're kinda pointless, and I've heard mixed things...

But yeah, applying for jobs is the worst. I've been searching for a new job for a while now, and thankfully I'm already employed (under employed, unfortunately) because applying for work is a soul-sucking experience.
Blader
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(08-21-2014, 12:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by plantedunicorn

Random ass question when you're applying for Government jobs and they ask for your transcript in place of experience. Are they really asking that to see how you did in school or just to see if you actually did graduate?

I've been reluctant to apply to any government jobs because my grades weren't that great in college but I'm thinking I have nothing to lose if I just go for it.

In my experience, nobody gives a shit about grades after you graduate.
FillerB
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(08-21-2014, 12:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dartastic

Curious, but how useful ARE cover letters anyway? I feel like they're kinda pointless, and I've heard mixed things....

Mandatory. The cover letter (also known as a motivation letter) is the way you distinguish yourself from the potentially hundreds of other resume's being sent in. It's basically the salespitch where you sell yourself to the company by, in general terms, listing your qualities and reason you are perfect for the job/company and why you want to work there.

A HR person isn't just going to invite everyone who's resume fits the bill. He/She wants to know that you actually put the time and effort into it.
Unicorn
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(08-21-2014, 12:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by Askherserenity

This. I can't do anything without feeling extremely guilty. Then I feel horrible anyways and decide to lay down for a bit because I can't take it. It's this horrible cycle.

Yes. 5 months of this happened to me a couple years ago. It destroyed my relationship at the time and it never repaired, even after landing a job. A year into work and the relationship ended (should have ended sooner anyway).

I'm sort of in the same spot now - school is requiring so much of my time I can't get a job that can give me decent pay or hours so I'm in the hole. I have student loans now, and those will help pay the bills, but I am already in debt from trying to stay afloat. Maxed my 3k credit card (mostly paying for gas and emergency expenses to fix my car). Still owe about 3k to my school for last semester too.

Current relationship is feeling strain because of lack of income on my part, but I'm really banking on these loans bringing balance back and keep me living until I graduate next Fall - then I hope I can find a teaching job that can pay me enough to live and pay back debts.
See You Next Wednesday
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(08-21-2014, 12:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by A Fish Aficionado

Practice. Some job centers offer interview rehearsal.

Isn't there a site anywhere that has loaded questions like this & the correct responses interviewers want to hear?
Mupod
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(08-21-2014, 12:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by plantedunicorn

Random ass question when you're applying for Government jobs and they ask for your transcript in place of experience. Are they really asking that to see how you did in school or just to see if you actually did graduate?

I've been reluctant to apply to any government jobs because my grades weren't that great in college but I'm thinking I have nothing to lose if I just go for it.

man I'd love for a company to give a shit about the fact that I was top of my class. The guy who barely squeaked by with hilariously bad grades actually ended up working at the same place as I did out of college.

Anyways I know the feeling. After 8 months of nothing (saw maybe 3 postings and got 1 interview) I just uprooted my life and moved in with a friend in a much larger city to look for work. And then I realized it wouldn't be that easy because every job I applied for probably had 300+ other people trying too. The trick ended up being to cut my resume down to 1 page and emphasize specific job accomplishments.

I'm glad I managed to find something last month but it got really, really scary seeing my savings dwindle. Especially when I found out what car insurance is like in toronto. Jesus christ.

Originally Posted by Tarsul

topics like these help me keep sane. Thanks.

Today (after working hours) I listened to my mail box and noticed that I had a voice mail by a company that wanted to arrange an interview. Only problem is that this voice mail is from a week ago. I'm still annoyed that I didn't check it before and hope that I still get the chance for the interview tomorrow. Otherwise it's time to bite myself in the..

The current job I have, their initial email ended up in my junk folder and I didn't notice until 4 days later.
Tarsul
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(08-21-2014, 12:44 AM)
topics like these help me keep sane. Thanks.

Today (after working hours) I listened to my mail box and noticed that I had a voice mail by a company that wanted to arrange an interview. Only problem is that this voice mail is from a week ago. I'm still annoyed that I didn't check it before and hope that I still get the chance for the interview tomorrow. Otherwise it's time to bite myself in the..
Gurthang
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(08-21-2014, 12:46 AM)
I am 20 years old and don't even know where to start for getting a job. I am gonna be homeless soon at this rate. And to add I need to start paying for my Remicade therapy.
Unicorn
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(08-21-2014, 12:48 AM)
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Yes, speaking of that:

Resume is 1 page - always.

Look up templates and guides to condense and pack as much information about yourself into - not be wordy though, but succinctly describe your prior work experiences into terms that will apply to your potential new job. Oh, you worked retail? don't put cashier or whatever. Transform it into lingo and terms that would fit your new job. What were the abstract experiences you gained? Oh, working with a team or communicating with customers. That kind of stuff - communication - is key in just about every job. Find ways to form your past jobs into something that a future job would actually value.

Flipping burgers taught you time-management, hand-eye coordination, teamwork, working under pressure, etc.
~Kinggi~
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(08-21-2014, 12:50 AM)
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soon as i lose my current job im just gonna kill myself. Being severely depressed in this job market basically means death.
Woffls
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(08-21-2014, 12:52 AM)
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Yep, on my third major job hunting phase now, and each one has been as depressing as the last. I'm a very capable person, but I guess I'm just speaking a different language to what these people want to hear.

I try and do applications every day, but I manage about an hour before it crushes me and I give up.
FillerB
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(08-21-2014, 12:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gurthang

I am 20 years old and don't even know where to start for getting a job. I am gonna be homeless soon at this rate. And to add I need to start paying for my Remicade therapy.

Job listings can be found literally every where. From google, to your local newspaper, to ranky messageboard at your local supermarket. Just google "jobs <city>" and I'm willing to bet you get some kind of database.

Alternatively you could look for job agencies and recruiters in your neighbourhood. Also find out what the biggest only job-listing-database-that-isnt-craigslist is and see if you can upload your resume. Aforemented recruiters come out the woodwork like lice if you have at least some experience/recently graduated. Though be warned that a lot of them are utter shit.

Originally Posted by ~Kinggi~

soon as i lose my current job im just gonna kill myself. Being severely depressed in this job market basically means death.

It might seem so, but it really isn't. Yes, I am speaking from experience. If you wanna talk about it, hit me up on a PM or the MentalHealthGAF IRC sometime.
jamesinclair
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(08-21-2014, 12:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by gutter_trash

it's worse than online dating

They both do a fantastic job of causing depression and killing your confidence.

Bonus, low confidence and depression make it harder to get a job or date
18-Volt
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(08-21-2014, 01:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by backflip10019

It sucks. I graduated in 2009 at the height of the recession and there were no jobs at all. Took me 9 months to find a job. Happy to say that I've had consistent work since then and made big strides in my career. The point is, keep at it. Something has to crack sooner or later.

You were lucky.

My cousin (a materials engineer) graduated in 2009 too, is still loking for a job. His grandfather, us his cousins, whole family is right now searching for a job in Europe over 25 countries (including his own, Turkey), but nothing. He got rejected from over 1200 job openings. We're at the point where we are thinking about letting him to kill himself and put himself out of this misery. He's quite suicidal.
Rash
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(08-21-2014, 01:08 AM)
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The whole job market situation can be depressing at times. The ways companies hire workers basically in slave roles just to save on the bottom line rather than provide actual job satisfaction.

I'm fortunate because my friend actually opened up a door to submit my resume at his company. Last week I interviewed for a position as an Audit Specialist and was given an offer on Monday, which I promptly took. My first salaried position with benefits ever, making way more money.

Since May of last year I've been working a data entry job in healthcare enrollment that I've been content with in the sense of working in an office setting, being left mostly to my own devices, not having to talk with people on phones or perform any sort of customer service role, having friendly leadership and a diverse work environment, being close to home, etc. However, the big frustration is that the job only paid $12 an hour because it was through a temp agency, where the same exact position but on the official company payroll (that is, the permanent/full-time version) paid something like $18 an hour with a benefits package. Coming to work every day knowing that you're doing the same work as others (basically) but having an agency absorb a third of your paycheck was certainly heartbreaking. But, again the job was the most tolerable one I've had yet and as embarrassing as it is, $12 an hour is the most I've ever been paid.

That's why I jumped on the opportunity to move elsewhere. I believe that my connection helped out but the interview went well too. I've had bad interviews and I know what they're like; this one was more natural. Though I still got tripped up by a couple of the questions. Like, I prepare for the "what is your weakness?" question, sure, but the interviewer asked "what are three things that you are trying to work on?" and I could pretty much only think of two. I hate feeling cornered like that and feeling forced to conjure up half-true answers on the spot.

But anyway, for the first time in my life I feel truly accomplished because a company has shown genuine desire for me, enough to offer a salaried position. After slaving away at my current company hoping they would open a door to full-time glory, I had to strike while the iron was hot and while I actually had some motivation.

The worst experiences were in college, though, interviewing for co-op positions. I had five years and I never once interviewed successfully. Well, I shouldn't say that; the one time I did have a successful interview was a fluke and they realized within the training period that they didn't even want me and let me go. Soul crushing indeed.

I hope from now on I have it a bit easier since I'm building better connections and credentials, but man, it's no easy task to be marketable and it's no easy task to actually find desirable career options at desirable companies. Getting interviews isn't so simple either and interviewing is one of the toughest things you can do, because no matter how confident you might be there's always a curveball just waiting to be thrown. All you can do is study, practice, and hope for the best.
jchap
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(08-21-2014, 01:09 AM)
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I'm pretty lucky in that respect. I've never applied to a job I didn't receive an offer on
todd360
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(08-21-2014, 01:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by bkfount

It sucks.

I just ended up staying at a shitty job and went back to school for another degree.

months of rejections or hearing nothing at all made me want to kill myself. Even my family started calling me lazy and questioning why I hadn't found anything yet.

I know your pain.
Hcoregamer00
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(08-21-2014, 01:10 AM)
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The job market is terrible, I feel your pain.

At this rate, it is much easier to start your own business and take advantage of the huge talent pool yourself :/
todd360
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(08-21-2014, 01:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hcoregamer00

The job market is terrible, I feel your pain.

At this rate, it is much easier to start your own business and take advantage of the huge talent pool yourself :/

I'm sitting here imagining some random person having that thought as a revelation and getting hyped about the idea.

There is so many talented people without jerbs!! I can make them work for me!

It was funny in my head anyways.
terrisus
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(08-21-2014, 01:27 AM)

Originally Posted by lightzGamin

May I ask what degree those of you who did not find a job have ?

Master's in Education (Master's degrees being required for public school teaching in my state).
Also a BS Mathematics.

Yeah, I found a job... In retail.
But, no teaching job during the time I was searching from 2009-2011.
Spinluck
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(08-21-2014, 01:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Shaanyboi

As someone in animation, yes. Yes it is.

:(
That1BlackGuy
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(08-21-2014, 01:38 AM)
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I feel y'all pain, after being unemployed for 8 months after graduation I said screw it and went freelance. Long term unemployment discrimination can be a real bitch; there's going to be an entire generation of displaced people who can't find work (and if they can it certainly isn't for a liveable wage). To those searching keep your head up, your eyes open for opportunities and keep grinding and building your portfolio. If you're a Black or Hispanic male, well I don't what to tell you.
PeregrinSe7en
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(08-21-2014, 01:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dragonzord

I just wish there was a better, more streamlined option to handle the 'evaluation' questions. Like you're ALL gonna ask me the stealing question, and I'm ALWAYS gonna have the same answer. I thought it would stop with 'degree' jobs, but it's still there! And It's still worded the same!

i agree

btw who's the girl in your avy?
JSizzle
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(08-21-2014, 01:50 AM)

Originally Posted by FillerB

Mandatory. The cover letter (also known as a motivation letter) is the way you distinguish yourself from the potentially hundreds of other resume's being sent in. It's basically the salespitch where you sell yourself to the company by, in general terms, listing your qualities and reason you are perfect for the job/company and why you want to work there.

A HR person isn't just going to invite everyone who's resume fits the bill. He/She wants to know that you actually put the time and effort into it.

Eh... Depends on the field I think. I literally have not done a cover letter once in the last few months and have only been applying for opportunities with relo offered. Have gotten calls and offered interviews with a number of Fortune 500 companies without issue.

But could simply be timing. I have over 6 years experience in a digital marketing field with high demand right now. Part of the reason I'm going after the relo opportunities. Want to strike before my skillset is much easier to find. Stark contrast from when I was looking 3 years ago and was lucky to get a call back.
rtcn63
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(08-21-2014, 01:56 AM)
My cover letter template is complete shit, something a middle schooler could've done better if he was high on CFCs. And yet, I've never had much mind to change it because- I have nothing to put on it. Oh, I did a brief internship here, and I'm pretty sure I'm competent enough to sort mail for a company of two dozen or so people. I could put that I post on GAF, am moderately literate, and am like totally cool with black people, them being my ninjas and all when it's visible out.
JSizzle
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(08-21-2014, 02:01 AM)
Would like to add, applying for jobs off linked in is the shit. No long ass forms that require you to repeat what is on your resume or any other wastes of time. A simple click of the apply button, attach your resume and you're finished.

The worst part of the hunt for me is filling out those god awful forms noted above. I skip applying for so many jobs once I see the form.
A Fish Aficionado
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(08-21-2014, 02:02 AM)
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I've had mixed luck with cover letters. At my last interview, about a couple months ago, they didn't even glance at it or ask me questions about it.
Liquidsnake
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(08-21-2014, 02:03 AM)
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I broke through and had 4 interviews with decent companies in the last 6 months, only to be passed over for someone else. I feel worthless. I always felt the interview was my strongest attribute. I really feel worthless. Sleepless nights, money worries. I am at the end of the line financially. Recruiter has set me up with two interviews that I guess I blew.

It affects my relationships with friends, family, my GF. I feel like a total loser and my confidence is shaken to the core.

Craigslist
Indeed
Monster
Career builder have all done nothing for me. I keep hearing the job market is rebounding; where? I've never had this much trouble finding a job in my life!!

Help me GAF. My confidence is at an all time low. I have an interview tomorrow that I'll probably be passed up on again.
JSizzle
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(08-21-2014, 02:07 AM)

Originally Posted by A Fish Aficionado

I've had mixed luck with cover letters. At my last interview, about a couple months ago, they didn't even glance at it or ask me questions about it.

As a hiring manager i can say I've never once read one and anytime resumes have been sent to other hiring managers in my department they are never included. Just the resume.

With a quick glance of the resume and the salary expectations it is typically quite easy to widdle down the list. It is amazing how bad some peoples resumes are... Or unreal their salary expectations are.
xbgamer
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(08-21-2014, 02:11 AM)
I quit my job last Friday with no prospects, In the last 2 days I got a new full time Job and 2 freelance gigs for extra cash. I was always good at getting jobs.
Photolysis
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(08-21-2014, 02:13 AM)
The worst part of the entire process is waiting. I can handle rejection, but being stuck in a limbo state is awful.

I'm transitioning careers and applied for a very good entry level position recently. Interview seemed to go well, and I was told to expect a yes or no response within 2-3 days; it's been over a week and I've heard nothing. Sadly due to circumstances, I've got to wait just under a week before I can even get in touch with the person to try to clarify what's going on, if anything.

And it's very easy to drive yourself mad when you start second guessing yourself. For all I know there was just a bit of a delay and I'm still in with a shot, or even they're planning to offer me the position. Or there's no chance, and they're being unprofessional and not letting me know. Or anything really. I have no idea.

Until this point, I've at least known where I stood (or had a very good idea) when it comes to a position. This current situation is probably the worst I've felt so far.
Jake.
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(08-21-2014, 02:18 AM)
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i was basically unemployed for 8 months last year (only working 6hrs a week), it really is completely demoralising.
GamerSoul
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(08-21-2014, 02:19 AM)
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Yea it's tough and soul crushing at times. You are basically putting yourself out there "for sale" and every phrase you utter can determine how the whole process goes. I understand that there has to be a process (damn those friggin phone screens!) but it takes a lot out of you. What's worse is that I probably could have had more chances if I planned ahead while still in school. But what can you do? It is what it is.You just have to keep trying, stay positive if you can, expand your search if it comes to that, and try your best to prepare because you never know. I've been looking all summer for an opportunity and I finally found a contract to hire junior position. I hope it goes well and my stuff checks out fine. I still can't believe I found one. I'll just say it was not the job position I was feeling confident about. but again you never know.
Death Metalist
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(08-21-2014, 02:22 AM)
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*Bro hugs everyone in this thread* Hang in there.
Epsilon-delta
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(08-21-2014, 02:30 AM)

Originally Posted by jchap

I'm pretty lucky in that respect. I've never applied to a job I didn't receive an offer on

So says the engineer...
Bajan32
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(08-21-2014, 02:36 AM)
I've been looking for about a year now. Really takes a toll on you. I can't tell if it's because my resume sucks or that people think I'm over qualified down here in Florida. Or even maybe my career has just been too varied.

Sent out so many resumes, a few interviews. Couple really close hires. But for the most part I don't hear anything back.

It's getting so bad in starting to doubt my own skills. And on top of that it's making me not even want to apply..
xbgamer
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(08-21-2014, 02:40 AM)

Originally Posted by Bajan32

I've been looking for about a year now. Really takes a toll on you. I can't tell if it's because my resume sucks or that people think I'm over qualified down here in Florida. Or even maybe my career has just been too varied.

Sent out so many resumes, a few interviews. Couple really close hires. But for the most part I don't hear anything back.

It's getting so bad in starting to doubt my own skills. And on top of that it's making me not even want to apply..

What is your field? I live in South Florida and almost all of my friends have jobs; Even my lazy ass brother who hasn't had a real job in 7 years just recently got a really good paying job.
Megalosaro
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(08-21-2014, 02:43 AM)
I have an interview tomorrow and I really hope I nail it. Im tired of applying for jobs, and this is actually in the field I want to go to.
Bajan32
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(08-21-2014, 02:44 AM)

Originally Posted by xbgamer

What is your field? I live in South Florida and almost all of my friends have jobs; Even my lazy ass brother who hasn't had a real job in 7 years just recently got a really good paying job.

I was a graphic artist/production artist. I don't really say graphic designer cuz I've worked in so many different fields. Print, home entertainment, film and apparel, and some Web. But last few years I was working as a compositor in la. I think that's all people are seeing when they look at my resume.

I'm in South Florida. Just want a job playing in Adobe that pays decent and I'll be good.
xbgamer
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(08-21-2014, 02:49 AM)

Originally Posted by Bajan32

I was a graphic artist/production artist. I don't really say graphic designer cuz I've worked in so many different fields. Print, home entertainment, film and apparel, and some Web. But last few years I was working as a compositor in la. I think that's all people are seeing when they look at my resume.

Try downplaying the compositor part if you think it is a hindrance; also, with your skills you should try doing freelance stuff. Freelance can pay really well and has more than once turned into a long time gig for me.
Bajan32
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(08-21-2014, 02:52 AM)

Originally Posted by xbgamer

Try downplaying the compositor part if you think it is a hindrance; also, with your skills you should try doing freelance stuff. Freelance can pay really well and has more than once turned into a long time gig for me.

Don't know how to down play it. If I took it off my resume it'll look like I haven't worked in years lol.

Sending you a quick PM.
OriginofHysteria
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(08-21-2014, 03:00 AM)
As some of you may know, I was searching for jobs for the past few months. It got really upsetting and it looked like there was no hope. Today I received a job offer and negotiated an extra 5k on top of the allocated budget. What helped was definitely doing research and since I was interviewing at a couple places, I was still in the zone.

If anyone needs any interviewing tips or what to say, feel free to PM me.
xbgamer
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(08-21-2014, 03:10 AM)

Originally Posted by OriginofHysteria

As some of you may know, I was searching for jobs for the past few months. It got really upsetting and it looked like there was no hope. Today I received a job offer and negotiated an extra 5k on top of the allocated budget. What helped was definitely doing research and since I was interviewing at a couple places, I was still in the zone.

If anyone needs any interviewing tips or what to say, feel free to PM me.

Good for you for not just giving in and taking what they give you.
Sun Drugs
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(08-21-2014, 03:37 AM)
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I was in the same position from when I graduated (June of last year) until today. I sent out so many resumes and received only a couple of call backs, which did not work out. Last week my cousin posted on Facebook that his company was hiring, and I happened to get the job due to this. The job isn't even related to my degree (geography) and I am only making $11/hr, but I consider myself so lucky to have this.

I feel for everyone struggling to find a job right now. It really is terrible. All I can say is to hang in there and don't give up.
Makai
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(08-21-2014, 03:46 AM)
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It is definitely an unfortunate process and surely a major detriment to many people's mental health.
FLAguy954
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(08-21-2014, 03:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Silicon Knight

- Create a routine for yourself. Finding a job is now your job. For me, I spent the morning going to the gym, doing some chores and from 12-5pm, I was looking for a job. Applying, looking for positions, calling people in my network for some updates, writing letters and so forth. That way I could relax in the evening and watch a movie or play a game. Creating and sticking to a routine will keep you sane, trust me.

This is super important! This is what kept me sane when I had to look for a job because I could not find a co-signer to help me get a loan to continue school.
bigDdestruction
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(08-21-2014, 03:56 AM)
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I've been looking for work the entire summer and i go back to school in 2 weeks. I only started get call backs and interviews just as summer vacation is about to end and when i tell whoever is interviewing me i have school, i think that just completely destroys any chance i have of getting the job. I've done lot's of interviews and feel they went well but don't get a callback to know if i got the job or to come for a second interview or whatever. It's incredibly depressing. I just need someone to give me a chance.
Schattenjäger
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(08-21-2014, 03:58 AM)
After graduating, it took me 1.5 years to find a job in my career - was working retail.. Def very depressing .. Hang in there people - keep trucking - something will eventually give

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