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Purkake4
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(08-12-2017, 11:13 PM)
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His motivations are trash and he's not enacting his own will most of the time?

Try again.
MiloHoffman
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(08-12-2017, 11:14 PM)
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BareKnuckle
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(08-12-2017, 11:16 PM)
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Can't breathe without his magic hat
WinFonda
(08-12-2017, 11:18 PM)
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opinions I guess, I don't think he looks cool at all... he looks cheap and plasticky, like a guy in a halloween costume... very much a product of his times

and i think his heavy breathing is dorky

aside from that he does sound cool though
broncobuster
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(08-12-2017, 11:19 PM)
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Everyone citing Rogue One forgets that Vader fails, like he fails in A New Hope. Even his son would rather jump into a pit than spend time with him.
Jintor
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(08-12-2017, 11:20 PM)
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darth's alright
Zampano
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(08-12-2017, 11:22 PM)
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Because he's not the Judge from Blood Meridian
gaugebozo
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(08-12-2017, 11:22 PM)
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SatoAilDarko
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(08-12-2017, 11:22 PM)
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He usually just walked slowly around and had his plans constantly foiled.

Him getting shot at the end of Episode IV and being sent into a tailspin was hilarious.
DiipuSurotu
(08-12-2017, 11:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jintor



darth's alright

Why does he look like he's wearing sunglasses here?
Spiritual_Chaos
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(08-12-2017, 11:26 PM)
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He has that stupid looking box with lights on it, on his chest.
Purkake4
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(08-12-2017, 11:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by DiipuSurotu

Why does he look like he's wearing sunglasses here?

His vision is augmented?

Also Kreia/Darth Traya please. (KOTOR 2 spoilers)
jett
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(08-12-2017, 11:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by WinFonda

opinions I guess, I don't think he looks cool at all... he looks cheap and plasticky, like a guy in a halloween costume... very much a product of his times

and i think his heavy breathing is dorky

aside from that he does sound cool though

I don't either. He looks silly.



His voice I only like post-ANH. James Earl Jones put on a strange inflection in ANH, which I find kinda funny at times. It's completely gone in ESB though, he plays Vader a good deal more seriously.
Steel
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(08-12-2017, 11:28 PM)
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He's iconic, looks good, but is more of an obstacle for 90% of the trilogy than an agent, other than at the end.

I like Vader but I wouldn't even say he's the best star wars villain(KOTOR 2 comes to mind)
Hasphat'sAnts
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(08-12-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Staccat0
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(08-12-2017, 11:29 PM)
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He looks fucking dumb. His design is one great sound design choice away from being b-movie silliness.
firehawk12
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(08-12-2017, 11:29 PM)
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Sand is his weakness.
Spiritual_Chaos
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(08-12-2017, 11:31 PM)
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Not many beat this fellow:

Rodney McKay
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(08-12-2017, 11:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by jett

I don't either. He looks silly.

I like him a lot in the original series, but Rogue One really made me realize how cheesy his costume is when they were trying so hard to make him look like a menacing badass in all his scenes.

"oooh, lets have him living in a castle surrounded by lava! That's so cool!"
TheSecondSpitter
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(08-12-2017, 11:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos

Not many beat this fellow:

T-800 was getting amazing heat as a heel they tuned him face whether he got over even more.
Pizza
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(08-12-2017, 11:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by TI82



Because he's not Dio



Or kira


Hell yeah jojo rocks

Also Dragonball has some sweet villains, I really like Lord Beerus, Emperor Pilaf, Piccolo, and General Red (vegeta is cool too)

Speaking of vegeta, ShadOw the Edgehog is honestly one of my fav antagonists.

He was created as a "perfect life form" so that Eggman's grandpa could use him to figure out how to cure the Sonic version of AIDS for his niece. Buuuut Gerald Robotnik couldn't figure it out (mad a gross dinosaur instead) and only made Shadow after enlisting the help of a mega evil alien version of the NiGHTS antagonist. Part of the deal was that the alien would come back later, grab the chaos emeralds, and do what he wants with the earth and shadow. Gerald says "ok" and builds a giant space colony/laser with his face on it to wreck the alien whenever he comes back

The world government hears about this and fucking storms the space station, slaughters everyone, and cryofreezes Shadow. Guy wakes up with fumbled memories and vows to enact revenge on the earth until he realizes that's not at all what Maria (the AIDS niece) wanted. Does a heel turn, goes super saiyan and dies heroically stopping the space colony from crashing into earth thanks to that gross dinosaur from earlier

Next game, he comes back with no memories and is revealed to be an android, then he comes back for real with guns and uses the space colony to kill the aliens

Then he's like a spy or something

I dig it, he even says that he's the coolest out loud
LakeEarth
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(08-12-2017, 11:37 PM)
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A reason why Darth Vader isn't the coolest villain ever? Hmm, gee, I don't knnnNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Purkake4
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(08-12-2017, 11:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by LakeEarth

A reason why Darth Vader isn't the coolest villain ever? Hmm, gee, I don't knnnNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Obviously Lucas the greatest villain ever,
womp
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(08-12-2017, 11:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Rodney McKay


"oooh, lets have him living in a castle surrounded by lava! That's so cool!"

That was actually something that was cut from Return of the Jedi. Lucas had that idea for Vader way back when and they just decided to regurgitate it for use in Rogue One. Much like how they are rummaging through McQuarrie's old cutting floor design sketches.
The Greek Freak
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(08-12-2017, 11:44 PM)
Because his backstory is awful and force powers and the force in general are lame as shit.
SamuelSupreme
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(08-12-2017, 11:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Syf

Rogue One hallway scene redeemed him somewhat but I can't just unsee how big of a whiner he was in the prequels.


Watch

The Clone Wars.


Anakin has been redeemed for years.
oddj0b
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(08-12-2017, 11:54 PM)
Star Wars alone houses at least 3 or 4 coolest villains in the top 50 of all time imo
Farsi
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(08-12-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by IdreamofHIME

Bad guys should be scary and intimidating, being cool should not be part of it. If you're "cool", you've already failed.

While I agree, there are exceptions to the rule, and that's pretty boys with nice smiles and bad intentions.
excelsiorlef
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(08-12-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Slayven

Cause he was hilariously ineffectual at his job, and when all said and done just a henchman

Correct

And he was Anakin Skywalker
tci
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(08-13-2017, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos

Not many beat this fellow:

BibiMaghoo
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(08-13-2017, 12:07 AM)
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His mask is timeless and iconic, but his chestpiece is poor by today's standards. It looks like it came from the era the film was made, and forever will.
toddhunter
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(08-13-2017, 12:09 AM)
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Weak to sand and small hills. Fight him on a small sandy hill and that fucker is done.
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(08-13-2017, 12:09 AM)
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DiipuSurotu
(08-13-2017, 12:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by BibiMaghoo

His mask is timeless and iconic, but his chestpiece is poor by today's standards. It looks like it came from the era the film was made, and forever will.

And this is bad because...?
bobeth
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(08-13-2017, 12:28 AM)
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Movie version? He looks incredibly slow and stiff, his plans are obvious and dumb, his helmet..well..
BibiMaghoo
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(08-13-2017, 12:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by DiipuSurotu

And this is bad because...?

Because it looks shit? Like some arcade / fruit machine buttons stuck to his chest. It did not age well, where as the rest still looks great.
jett
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(08-13-2017, 12:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by BibiMaghoo

Because it looks shit? Like some arcade / fruit machine buttons stuck to his chest. It did not age well, where as the rest still looks great.

I wonder what could a re-imagined Vader look like, one that fans could agree on. Probably an impossibility. :P That control panel sticking out of his chest really looks like shit, among other things.
Forerunner
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(08-13-2017, 12:46 AM)
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RIP younglings
Peter Ian Staker
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(08-13-2017, 12:47 AM)
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He needs his helmet waxed with woodoo hide.

Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos

Not many beat this fellow:

I bet the T-800 would be considered one of the most threatening villains ever if Arnold disappeared after 1984.

The image of Arnold as that goofy guy that is built like a brick shithouse is so ingrained into pop-culture it's difficult to see past it when rewatching the Terminator.
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DiipuSurotu
(08-13-2017, 12:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by jett

I wonder what could a re-imagined Vader look like, one that fans could agree on. Probably an impossibility. :P That control panel sticking out of his chest really looks like shit, among other things.

http://imgur.com/gallery/7uvrB
BMO = GOAT
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(08-13-2017, 12:53 AM)
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Hmm 🤔 i would go between DOOM, and Aizen(everything you did he planned it. Plot armor haxx)
Oersted
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(08-13-2017, 12:56 AM)
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I always thought it is a failure when your villain ends up cool.
blakep267
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(08-13-2017, 12:57 AM)
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Eh like he wasn't the main guy. He had a boss. That knocks him down severely. Also he didn't do enough IMO. Somebody like Ledgers joker had no boss and didntons of stuff
jviggy43
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(08-13-2017, 12:59 AM)
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I'll give you several.

He was a whiny little bitch.
He was tricked by the most obvious plan of all time.
He killed the Jedi for no reason.
He was a puppet of the emperor
Fancyarcher
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(08-13-2017, 01:02 AM)
He couldn't make up his mind if he was evil or good.
Forerunner
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(08-13-2017, 01:06 AM)
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He was pretty badass in Rebels though.




burgervan
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(08-13-2017, 01:08 AM)
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blakep267
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Originally Posted by jett

I wonder what could a re-imagined Vader look like, one that fans could agree on. Probably an impossibility. :P That control panel sticking out of his chest really looks like shit, among other things.

Look at Kylo ten. He looks menacing yet his costume is sleek and stylish. Vader looks slow, clunky and his helmet is stupid. Ren is what Vader should look like
PhoncipleBone
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(08-13-2017, 01:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by evil solrac v3.0

Dr. Doom is far better.

And Vader was inspired by Doctor Doom. Further proof that Doom is better.
faridmon
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(08-13-2017, 01:29 AM)
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Lame outfit, lame voice and not scary enough

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