By making a total shit remastering in the first place.
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Original version of Doom 3 can no longer be individually purchased on Steam
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By making a total shit remastering in the first place.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
There's a nice small color manual and a keyboard reference card, it's nice enough I guess, you don't need much more for Doom 3.
I realized my version maybe be different to his though, since it's of the few times it's a fully translated to Greek box & manual.
GraveRobberX
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Holy shit @ those comparison pics
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I didn't say it could be avoided, I said it was their fault.
Now that's just ridiculous.
* Dynamic lighting is completely gone from flashlight
* The so called technical/gameplay design choice of the flashlight being a seperate item/weapon is gone (you can now carry the flashlight in combination with a weapon, could not do that before)
Two of the biggest changes/flaws imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_IBimiQwRc&feature=youtu.be&a
Comparison video I found.
Krappadizzle
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Granted I think this topic is thread worthy on its own, but any FPS released now must compete with CoD and Halo. Moreso CoD than Halo, as publishers see that money and want that. Which is what they are in the business to do. iD which essentially created the genre really can't compete with those numbers with their traditional gameplay model. Which really sucks, a it is a lot of fun. I won't be the one to say CoD sucks, as for what it does, it's pretty good. But, it sets a precedent for other studios to follow that may not want to create the same type of game, and get negative comparisons as a result. It'd be great of we could have both, but sadly we really can't. Ideally, I'd love to see CoD segmented into its own multiplayer focus, let me pay $25.00 for a multiplayer only "pack" and then another $25.00 if I want to play a single player game. I haven't picked up a CoD title since black ops, as I was essentially paying $60 for a map pack update. I won't do that anymore. I would love to play the next iteration of Zombies with BO2 but I won't pay $60 to do that.
Why wouldn't they?
Mackenzie 92
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Eh, I'm sure they'll put it back up at some point, something like doom 3 classic, or original doom 3 trilogy. In the meantime people have had what, 8 or 7 years to purchase it. I doubt many new buyers would have taken the classic version anyway.
It's not shit...just not a complete upgrade.
Honestly, I've enjoyed it too, but it's FAR from what I want from every damn game, especially as games like Dark Souls or Bioshock are far more entertaining for me. It's like seeing burgers do well and every business deciding they MUST sell burgers! Even though quite a few people would rather have subs, burritos, maybe even pasta way more from a food joint.
And hell, with how popular it is "collapsing" could just be having sales plummet down to a stable 3-5 million, enough to be lucrative but not so much as to be the one guiding force of the industry, just A force. Halo had a huge impact on shooters but it was nothing like this, and openworld sandboxes following GTA had some growing pains before maturing to their current state.
No graphical options, no subtitles, brightened the game, can use flash light anytime, no dynamic lighting off the light. They ripped the atmosphere out of a game that was all about atmosphere and left a sloppy seconds PC port.
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Shame on everyone who doesn't already on the Id Pack.
indigo-cyclops
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It's very reminiscent of Thief 2; fan made missions, so not all of them are that great. It looks really awesome and controls almost identically like Thief. Leans (even forward) , crouching/walking speeds, all the arrows, great atmosphere/sound, etc. It may be a bit lackluster regarding story, but there are a few really solid missions available. I don't think it's necessarily trying to maintain/explore Thief lore, rather just captures the feeling of playing the games incredibly well.
It has options, and is fully tweakable through a cfg file. Anytime flashlight is a good thing, and the original didn't have subtitles either.
No flashlight shadows is really the only noticable change for the worse.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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But with that said isn't the whole point of this thread a bit overblown?
I'd imagine that any pc gamer who wanted the og game would have it by now.
Not being able to buy it sucks but I doubt it's really going to affect the titles sales at this point.
Yep, Steam doesn't remove games from your library.
If you don't buy BFG? Absolutely.
If you DO buy BFG? I don't know, I have to hope so.
It's more the principle of the thing, and it tends to be one of the disadvantages of digital. Though admittedly this IS a unique case, usually the worst we get is something like Plants vs Zombies replacing some visuals due to rights problems, not a wholly distinct versions with significant enough differences.
I don't like it for the same reason I don't like that George Lucas is hiding the original versions of Star Wars in some bunker somewhere.
This is not the first time this has happened on Steam, it's just the biggest. Even worse, some games have literally been replaced. Not only can you not buy the original versions of Broken Sword, if you already had, you can't get them.
One isn't closer than the other. Its because you can't change the fov in bfg edition. That's why you get that zoomed in look.
They figured it out later by adding in a couple lines to the INI, but probably not before those screenshots.
I was actually one of those people looking to buy doom 3 on steam. I lost all my discs and was looking to replace them, $10 at the last summer sale was too much for me though.
Honestly this really is promoting piracy. Anytime you increase the price, barrier to entry to getting a product will increase the piracy.
I can tell you that I will not buy the bfg edition and I will not buy the id pack. I want to play through doom 3 again.
There really isn't much of an option here. I don't even put DVD drives in my builds anymore. So potentially I could pirate a copy and buy the physical copy. But why not cut out the middleman and the shipping costs?
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I wish I could pay Geroge Lucas a mere 99$ to get the original versions of Star Wars.
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Deleted member 102362
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This is just a bad, poorly-thought out move by Bethesda/id.
Krappadizzle
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Awesome to here. I was literally playing Thief 2 a few days ago, as I needed another dose of emergent gameplay after playing Dishonored. I absolutely will check this out.
MrNyarlathotep
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Having Thriller-era Michael Jackson as a zombie is a harmless joke while he's still alive, but a rather more tasteless one after he's died.
Well, immediately after anyway. After a few years pass I don't see that kind of thing being THAT bad, though this does highlight the unique nature of patchable PC games keeping you from having that unique version.
That's missing the point, you have to buy those.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DOOM-3-PC...ideo_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item4608dee469
Took me about five seconds to find a Doom 3 I can buy for virtually nothing, but we're talking about on Steam specifically.
This is actually a really good reason for why it's nice to have GOG as a supplementary source for DD purchases. At worst you'll still have the installer you downloaded, but in cases like this you get BOTH versions, even if it's the original as an extra with the Director's Cut. It's the annoying thing with Steam, if a game updates it updates, and there's nothing you can do about it, even the forcing off of auto patching seems to only apply to background downloads, not allowing a game to stay in the same state to not mess things up as it'll just attempt patching then.
Krappadizzle
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I think the only reason, and it really is the only reason that I didn't pick up BFG edition is that it didn't have the Xbox co-op. I had a lot of fun with that upon original release and I'd love to play it with my brother, but I can't. O well.
Stallion Free
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Yeah, the fact that they didn't bother to add in what mods for the PC version and the OG Xbox release originally had is definitely an interest killer. It was a great opportunity.
Stallion Free
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I was referring to mods that added co-op on PC. There will probably never be any way to play co-op in BFG edition.
Well, isn't Carmack and id releasing the source for the game? Who knows what will happen after that.
Mackenzie 92
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I don't think anyone gives a shit.
Krappadizzle
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The people who can't mod the original D3 might give a shit. It's crazy how good the og D3 looks(modded) in comparison to the new BFG edition.
I NEED SCISSORS
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Isn't Doom 3 an open source title now? I'm not the most technical person, but surely you could just download that from github or wherever, compile and play?
Anyway, i'm so glad I managed to bag it on Steam before this crap happened (I can still download it right, even if it's not available to buy?). I can't live without Sikkmod and Wulfen textures..
Without trying to devolve into a circlejerk, they're completely different games. Like, you have to physically push your eyeballs back into your skull after seeing modded Doom 3 shots.
I can make this same exact statement in regards to way too many other games.
For narrative based non-RPGs I feel like the sweet spot is around 10 hours. After that I just stop caring and my eyes glaze over, leads to plenty of unfinished games that I really liked or ultimately negative impressions of a game I otherwise would have praised after playing.
CambriaRising
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I guess it's a good thing I own a boxed copy. Wtf Carmack.
id's open source releases don't include the game data files, you still have to buy those.
CambriaRising
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It's already out and it is vastly inferior.