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lowhighkang_LHK
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(09-10-2016, 04:34 AM)
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Available in 43 inches (VA panel) and 49 inches (IPS panel). 43 inch is 650 USD and 49 inch is 800 USD.

The EUROPEAN labeling of this TV is : EU XD80xx (the xx value changes depending on tv color, remote type etc., non-important things)

Rtings posted a review of it, and it rates highest in a lot of the areas most pertaining to gaming.

It's rated highly specifically for gaming, it also does pretty well as a dedicated PC monitor.

Great for gamers. Very responsive TV, has low input lag (w/HDR turned on) and is great at handling fast motion. Picture quality is good.

Full review here
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d

43 inch - 650$ / 49 inch - 800$ (at amazon)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FWIEO2E...ing=UTF8&psc=1

The review and TV specifications both indicate it is 10 bit color depth, and supports HDR10. Check the input specifications section of the review.

Update 09/08/2016: Our original test was showing an incorrect color depth of 8 bit due to some incorrect drivers on our system, but after some correction to our test apparatus, we tested again the color depth and we can confirm that the Sony X800D do in fact have an 10 bit panel. Also supports 444 chroma.

Inputs Specifications
HDR10
: Yes

Dolby Vision
: No
5.1 Passthrough ARC Dolby Digital
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough ARC DTS
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough Optical Dolby Digital
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough Optical DTS
: Yes
HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwith : Yes
4k@60hz: HDMI ports 2 and 3 only.
ARC : Yes (HDMI 3)
USB 3 : Yes (1)
HDCP 2.2 : Yes
CEC : Yes
MHL : No
Variable Analog Audio Out : Yes

BASIC SET UP INFORMATION *************PLEASE READ**************

1) Connect your Pro or other 4k/HDR gaming devices into either HDMI ports 2 or 3. HDMI port 1 and 4 will not allow 4k/60hz w/HDR at full 4k.
2) Turn on Enhanced HDMI. Click the home button on your Sony's remote, scroll all the way down to settings. Go to input. Change HDMI to ENHANCED. This turns on 444 and HDR at full 4k. Put the tv on game mode if you desire.
3) Go to your PS4's settings -> Sound and Screen -> Make sure everything is on automatic. And then go to video output information and make sure it says : 2160p - 60hz. RGB HDR: 2k/4k. If it says something other than that, something is wrong.
4) You can leave many of the PS4's and TV's settings on auto. The TV and Pro do a good job of communicating with each other for the optimal picture depending on the software being used.

5) When playing HDR enabled content, the TV should automatically increase brightness (which is what it calls it's backlight setting) to MAX. If not, do it manually. Of course, when you exit out of HDR enabled content, the brightness should go back to your standard defaulted non HDR settings..)
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shinobi602
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(09-10-2016, 04:37 AM)
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How much them 65-70 inchers tho?
UraMallas
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(09-10-2016, 04:38 AM)
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It doesn't appear to be able to do HDR10. Also, there is conflicting info. The 2016 model that you linked says 1 HDMI below in the comparison and the 2015 model shows 4. Hmm.
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(09-10-2016, 04:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by shinobi602

How much them 65-70 inchers tho?

This is where I am. 70 inches or bust
lowhighkang_LHK
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(09-10-2016, 04:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by shinobi602

How much them 65-70 inchers tho?

The ones they had on the main floor at the sony press conference was 65,000 dollars.
Onaco
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(09-10-2016, 04:39 AM)
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WARNING: That is not an HDR 10 display.

https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/com...dr10_for_xbox/


Edit: never mind. I saw some Amazon Questions that incorrectly said it was not HDR10.
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righthandmouse
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(09-10-2016, 04:40 AM)
I'm no screen geologist. Isn't the screen size and resolution supposed to reflect on where you are sitting? If not I feel like a moron getting another 27"1440p monitor for my desk instead of a 4k.
Hip Hop
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(09-10-2016, 04:40 AM)
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Yeah, HDR10 or nothing.
lowhighkang_LHK
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(09-10-2016, 04:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by UraMallas

It doesn't appear to be able to do HDR10. Also, there is conflicting info. The 2016 model that you linked says 1 HDMI below in the comparison and the 2015 model shows 4. Hmm.

Originally Posted by Onaco

WARNING: That is not an HDR 10 display.

https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/com...dr10_for_xbox/

The review says it does. And I trust rtings far more than some bro's updating a reddit list. Under input specifications it says HDR10. It also confirms in the review that it has 10 bit color depth. So yes, it is HDR10. That reddit list isn't saying it's not, it's just not been updated yet to include it's support.

Inputs Specifications
HDR10
: Yes

Dolby Vision
: No
5.1 Passthrough ARC Dolby Digital
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough ARC DTS
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough Optical Dolby Digital
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough Optical DTS
: Yes
HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwith : Yes
ARC : Yes (HDMI 3)
USB 3 : Yes (1)
HDCP 2.2 : Yes
CEC : Yes
MHL : No
Variable Analog Audio Out : Yes

Here is a list of current 10 bit versus 8 bit TV's. The model linked in the OP, the Sony X800D has 10 bit color depth support for HDR.
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/gradient
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wanderingprostheyltite
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(09-10-2016, 04:41 AM)
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Gonna sell me a kidney for the KS8000, or hope it goes on sale on Amazon for Black Friday :P

So I saw some mention in other threads that you won't notice the 4k benefit unless the display is a certain size and above. If true will a 49 inch cut it?
Art Vandilay
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(09-10-2016, 04:41 AM)
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This was not thread worthy.
RoboPlato
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(09-10-2016, 04:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by Onaco

WARNING: That is not an HDR 10 display.

https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/com...dr10_for_xbox/

All Sony's HDR TVs are HDR 10

This TV just got released recently so it's not on the list.
joeblow
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(09-10-2016, 04:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by shinobi602

How much them 65-70 inchers tho?

^^^ This, right here. Or do we have to wait for next year's offerings?
sviri
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(09-10-2016, 04:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Onaco

WARNING: That is not an HDR 10 display.

https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/com...dr10_for_xbox/

There are so many caveats when it come to upgrading a HT system, it really sucks. For instance... I want to buy a PS4 Pro but would need to get a 4K TV to get the most out of it. But then, even though my receiver supports 4K pass-through, it uses an older hdcp standard so I'd likely have to upgrade that too.

It's a whole can of worms that I wish I didn't want to reopen every few years.
Verder
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(09-10-2016, 04:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by shinobi602

How much them 65-70 inchers tho?


an organ possibly?


either way its lit with my 50 inch vizio 4k
ScherzoPrime
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(09-10-2016, 04:44 AM)
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Yeah this is the one I'm thinking of getting. I think last year's equivalent model doesn't have HDR, but this one does.
hazey_flakes
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(09-10-2016, 04:44 AM)
Did Sony sort out their issues with Android being really buggy? I purchased one of their 4K TVs last year, and it was so bad I returned it. Freezes, and reboots on a regular bases, and a ton of missing features, such as hdd recording.
lowhighkang_LHK
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(09-10-2016, 04:45 AM)
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They've also listed an update dated September 8th, 2016:

Update 09/08/2016: Our original test was showing an incorrect color depth of 8 bit due to some incorrect drivers on our system, but after some correction to our test apparatus, we tested again the color depth and we can confirm that the Sony X800D do in fact have an 10 bit panel.
v1lla21
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(09-10-2016, 04:46 AM)
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Shweet. Ironically I was looking at TVs earlier but I want a small 32 incher
Lord Frieza
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(09-10-2016, 04:47 AM)
What is HDR10? Goddamn, I feel so confused about 4K resolution stuff. I thought there was only HDR? Or is HDR10 just an extended name for HDR?

...I'm still not even sure I understand what HDR is. I need to read more about this, was thinking of getting a 4K TV this holiday.
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(09-10-2016, 04:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by lowhighkang_LHK

The ones they had on the main floor at the sony press conference was 65,000 dollars.

Don't you mean $6,000?

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR65Z9D.../dp/B01HY6W3Z2
Heckler456
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(09-10-2016, 04:47 AM)
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I was under the impression Sony TV's had bad input latency, or am I wrong here?
Instro
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(09-10-2016, 04:48 AM)
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Perfect size I need for the gaming room. Don't have the funds for it right now though.
wapplew
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(09-10-2016, 04:49 AM)
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Not going to get 4K TV under 60".
DirgeExtinction
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(09-10-2016, 04:49 AM)
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Does this have any light bleed issues? I remember reading some of Sony's models have it around the edges.
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(09-10-2016, 04:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by lowhighkang_LHK

The review says it does. Under input specifications.

Inputs Specifications
HDR10
: Yes

Dolby Vision
: No
5.1 Passthrough ARC Dolby Digital
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough ARC DTS
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough Optical Dolby Digital
: Yes
5.1 Passthrough Optical DTS
: Yes
HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwith : Yes
ARC : Yes (HDMI 3)
USB 3 : Yes (1)
HDCP 2.2 : Yes
CEC : Yes
MHL : No
Variable Analog Audio Out : Yes

The Sony specs page and the owners manual both day nothing about HDR.
lowhighkang_LHK
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(09-10-2016, 04:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Geneijin

Don't you mean $6,000?

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR65Z9D.../dp/B01HY6W3Z2

No, the ones on the stage were like, closer to 80 or 100 inches or whatever. Look at this samsung, 120,000 dollars.

https://www.engadget.com/2014/07/22/...9-000-dollars/
HIGH DEF JEFF
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(09-10-2016, 04:56 AM)
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How many fucking TV threads will there be before Nov. 10?

-EDIT-
Also...43 inch? Why bother.
Killthee
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(09-10-2016, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lord Frieza

What is HDR10? Goddamn, I feel so confused about 4K resolution stuff. I thought there was only HDR? Or is HDR10 just an extended name for HDR?

...I'm still not even sure I understand what HDR is. I need to read more about this, was thinking of getting a 4K TV this holiday.

There's 2 competing HDR standards (think bluray vs hddvd), HDR10 is one of them and the other is Dolby Vision.



http://www.cnet.com/news/dolby-visio...tv-format-war/

Cartman86
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(09-10-2016, 04:57 AM)
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Just started going down the rabbit hole of trying to find a TV that has great HDR and 4K (because right now that's the only real reason to spend a bunch of money), but also supports native 120hz at 1080p, supports 4:4:4 chroma and has good input lag. This is a nightmare.
btrboyev
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(09-10-2016, 04:57 AM)
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Too small. Anything under 60" is too small to me. Keep in mind I game on a 120" 1080p projector.
Aztechnology
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(09-10-2016, 04:58 AM)
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Hold not yet GAF I have a strong suspicion the 2017 models for Vizio and for Samsung will a worthwhile step up.

Edit: Ohhh... Nevermind. The Vizio is 60ms with HDR, I forgot someone mentioned that already.

Still I'd wait for the Vizio 2017 P series unless there's an insane deal on these during the holidays.
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Shadowheart
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(09-10-2016, 05:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by wapplew

Not going to get 4K TV under 60".

I am with you. I cannot go lower than the current size I have and 4K demands a larger screen. I need bigger than that and I'll wait for the price slashes.
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(09-10-2016, 05:01 AM)
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I almost but this but then saw it didn't have HDR 10!!!
Nags
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(09-10-2016, 05:02 AM)

Originally Posted by Heckler456

I was under the impression Sony TV's had bad input latency, or am I wrong here?

They actually have some of the better displays when it comes to input latency. Samsung is pretty bad about it though I believe.
aadiboy
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(09-10-2016, 05:02 AM)
Add about 20 inches and then we would have a TV worth buying.
Cartman86
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(09-10-2016, 05:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aztechnology

Hold not yet GAF I have a strong suspicion the 2017 models for Vizio and for Samsung will a worthwhile step up.

Edit: Ohhh... Nevermind wait for best. The Vizio is 60ms with HDR, I forgot someone mentioned that already.

Still I'd wait for the Vizio 2017 P series unless there's an insane deal on these during the holidays.

Hmmm that might just be what I want...
Andodalf
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(09-10-2016, 05:02 AM)
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How many dimming zones?
Aztechnology
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(09-10-2016, 05:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Andodalf

How many dimming zones?

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Heel
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(09-10-2016, 05:03 AM)
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I was looking at this review, but no local dimming made me wonder how good the HDR would actually be, despite it scoring pretty well in that category. Aren't these in direct conflict with each other?

Maybe someone with some expertise could go into this a bit.

Originally Posted by Aztechnology

Hold not yet GAF I have a strong suspicion the 2017 models for Vizio and for Samsung will a worthwhile step up.

Yeah, the more I read into it, the more I want to wait until 2017 models. HDR formats and HDR latency work themselves out across brands, and prices bottom out even more.
TRega
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(09-10-2016, 05:03 AM)
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No local dimming and it doesn't get quite as bright as other HDR tvs; however, it does check all the HDR boxes.
Dante316
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(09-10-2016, 05:04 AM)
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HDR usually gets patched in that's y it's probably there. Same thing happened to my Sony tv last year. It was only updated in. Just a guess it could be similar situation.
longdi
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(09-10-2016, 05:06 AM)
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I guess this is good for PC or room use. There are no 4K monitors that do HDR sadly.

Then again, most HDTV will drop to 4:2:2 IIRC when you connect a PC. You will get slightly jaggy text
RoboPlato
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(09-10-2016, 05:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dante316

HDR usually gets patched in that's y it's probably there. Same thing happened to my Sony tv last year. It was only updated in. Just a guess it could be similar situation.

HDR wasn't patched in. It's always had it.

We sell them at work. It has a giant 4K HDR logo on it.
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(09-10-2016, 05:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Badenergytroll

I almost but this but then saw it didn't have HDR 10!!!


it does


"Update 09/08/2016: Our original test was showing an incorrect color depth of 8 bit due to some incorrect drivers on our system, but after some correction to our test apparatus, we tested again the color depth and we can confirm that the Sony X800D do in fact have an 10 bit panel."

Aztechnology
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(09-10-2016, 05:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cartman86

Hmmm that might just be what I want...

My bad there I wouldn't recommend it at this point for gaming in HDR. Missing some key features especially for PC like 4:4:4 chroma subsampling, proper latency with HDR which are deal breaker IMO right now. I do think they'll have that sorted in their 2017 edition though. FALD TV's are great too.
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(09-10-2016, 05:09 AM)
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I didnt even know they made sub 50" HDR sets...thanks!
Bad_Boy
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(09-10-2016, 05:09 AM)
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bookmarking this thread for future reference. thanks op
Jtwo
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(09-10-2016, 05:12 AM)
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Will look into this. Have been looking for a oc monitor upgrade and I love this brand.
arbok26
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(09-10-2016, 05:17 AM)
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I can't believe how fast 4k tvs have dropped in price... This should make 1080p tvs cheaper, but they are so close in price that it would make more sense to get the 4k. I mean how much is a Sony 1080p 43" TV? Gotta be $400?

The only thing that's bothering me at the moment is what to do with my old 42" HD TV (720p) that no one wants. Feels weird to just throw it in the trash, Had 10 good years with it and hasn't missed a beat.

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