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Imp the Dimp
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(05-20-2017, 12:29 AM)
They exist because I like them



titiklabingapat
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(05-20-2017, 12:30 AM)
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Because snow and blizzards are slippery, your visuals are impaired and are generally a bitch to move through. They are also good for free refrigeration.
sam12
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(05-20-2017, 12:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Sub Boss

Some snow levels r Beautiful


but yeah in BotW it wasn't very good

My favorite
RaySpencer
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(05-20-2017, 12:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Otakumegane

Snow /Ice levels generally fall into these sets of design tropes.

1. Taking movement control away from the player. Slippery surfaces or snow slowing you down, it's the worst part of games like BotW which focuses on freedom of movement and the like, and generally all platformers like Mario.

2. Enemies stun you for longer periods of time. Compounded on point 1, more freedom is taken as enemies are an even bigger pain in the ass to deal with.

3. Lowered visual acuity/blocking of vision. Navigation and planning is more difficult as Snow either blocks your vision or lowers the draw distance viewable.


Why do snow levels even exist?

Have you ever seen snow in real life?

I mean that as a serious question. I live in Canada and I see snow a lot, I love snow levels because they are very familiar to me.
Alastor3
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(05-20-2017, 12:33 AM)
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it have nothing to do with snow but the snow level in Nioh is f-- garbage.
Synless
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(05-20-2017, 12:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by PsySal

For the music.

Pretty much. Snow level music is the best.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1173659
Last edited by Synless; 05-20-2017 at 01:04 AM.
Tarextherex
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(05-20-2017, 12:42 AM)
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Nah they are cool

Btw the problem with them in BOTW isn't even the mobility or anything, it's that they all have the same music and stuff. There isn't much differences between each of the several snow mountains in the game
Nanashrew
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(05-20-2017, 12:44 AM)
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I don't mind ice and snow levels too much. Now underwater levels on the other hand can be a pain depending one the game and the level of control they give you.
Koozek
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(05-20-2017, 12:45 AM)
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Snow levels' music's the best!
jwhit28
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(05-20-2017, 12:46 AM)
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After enough worlds of practice with the regular platforming, it's good to change up the platforming itself. Less friction, low gravity, auto scrolling, they all work pretty well when used sparingly.
Twilight Gap
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(05-20-2017, 12:47 AM)
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what is snow music
Lulubop
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(05-20-2017, 12:48 AM)
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What? Snow levels are the best levels
mayl3
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(05-20-2017, 12:48 AM)
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Has anybody even topped the greatness that was goldeneye snow levels.
Nickle
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(05-20-2017, 12:49 AM)
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I'm just not a fan of getting slowed down by walking in snow, 95% of the time it does nothing but slow you down and annoy you. Realistic, but not fun.
Djamb3
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(05-20-2017, 12:51 AM)
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Probably the best level in Twilight Princess is the snow one. When done right can be incredible. Not a fan in Mario, although the levels sure are pretty.
Lothar
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(05-20-2017, 01:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Twilight Gap

what is snow music

http://youtu.be/7RWI3-8N_-Y
TheChaos
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(05-20-2017, 01:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Twilight Gap

what is snow music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlMdNcvCJo
Wozman23
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(05-20-2017, 01:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by OSHAN

Snow levels are the best what are you talking about OP. It's water levels that are bullshit.

Technically, snow levels are water levels. So by your own logic, snow levels are now bullshit again.
Hippopuncher12
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(05-20-2017, 01:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by AALLx

Frigid Outskirts, even worse than Bed of Chaos.

Yeah, but Frozen Eleum Loyce was amazing.
Dr.Hadji
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(05-20-2017, 01:36 AM)
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All these mentions of snow levels and no mention of snowboarding, skiing or shield surfing? The sickest slopes for shield surfing can only be found in the snowy regions in BotW.
JBwB
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(05-20-2017, 01:37 AM)
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Snow levels (& music) are awesome though.

Originally Posted by Twilight Gap

what is snow music

P4G - Snowflakes
phanphare
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(05-20-2017, 01:38 AM)
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snow levels/areas have the best vibes
ScientificPizza
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(05-20-2017, 01:41 AM)
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Getting to the snow area in Zelda completely destroyed my momentum in that game. I don't like snow areas at all
True Fire
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(05-20-2017, 01:42 AM)
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Walking up Mt Coronet for the first time was when the Pokémon franchise hit its peak tbh, literally and figuratively
NinjamicWZ
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(05-20-2017, 02:03 AM)

Originally Posted by Twilight Gap

what is snow music

GZA - Cold World

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R_thanatos
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(05-20-2017, 02:18 AM)
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As long as it's not the snow levels from orphen (PS2) i'm fine with it.
Vitet
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(05-20-2017, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by PsySal

For the music.

Originally Posted by ffdgh

Edit: Oh and the DKC games too of course.

Damn right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lyRI_M8ZXE
Stiler
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(05-20-2017, 02:23 AM)
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Snow levels/environments I absolutely love when done right. Uncharted, AC III, and Rise of the Tomb Raider are some examples.

I love when they actually make snow look and feel like snow, where deep snow makes your character move differently in it and the snow itself moves around as you walk through it.

It's nice having different environments and variety within them imo and thats what a well done snow environment can do.

I hate when games have "snow" and then simply put a flat white texture on the ground and have 0 impact on the actual gameplay in terms of movement or other things, it makes the whole thing feel frivolous (IE Skyrim).
nabe_shogun
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(05-20-2017, 02:25 AM)
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Snow levels are usually my favorites. I also really enjoyed the snow areas in BOTW.
NipplesAndToes23
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(05-20-2017, 02:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Chev

They don't take movement away from you, they ask you to consider movement in a different way. They exist because variety and experimenting with gameplay can be interesting.

TELL EM!
kubev
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(05-20-2017, 02:40 AM)
I'd prefer for snow to slow my character down than for my character to just slow down because he/she needs to talk to someone for a moment.
HeatBoost
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(05-20-2017, 02:43 AM)
This seems like the sorta "Why aren't all things a certain way" argument you see from time to time

Some people seem to have a platonic ideal of perfect game hegemony

Personally, I like variety. I'll take slippery footing over lowered visibility, though.
Wood Man
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(05-20-2017, 02:48 AM)
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One of my favorites. Love the music too. So soothing. As a kid I would grind here for a long time.

Luminaire
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(05-20-2017, 02:48 AM)
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Snow levels have the best music.

Example: FFXIV Snowcloak
El Odio
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(05-20-2017, 02:50 AM)
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Snow levels gave us one of the GOAT platforming levels though:

Plus like others have said the music is bliss.
Earthbound64
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(05-20-2017, 02:51 AM)
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Zen_Arcade
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(05-20-2017, 02:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Chev

They don't take movement away from you, they ask you to consider movement in a different way. They exist because variety and experimenting with gameplay can be interesting.

There's your answer OP.

There are plenty of good snow levels.
Nuke Soda
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(05-20-2017, 02:54 AM)
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I like snow levels. :(
Bakkus
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(05-20-2017, 02:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Twilight Gap

what is snow music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCvYlD-S4DQ
andthebeatgoeson
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(05-20-2017, 02:59 AM)
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Smb3 ice level music.
Released
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(05-20-2017, 03:02 AM)
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I dig them.

I don't feel as if a game should constantly be catering to my freedom or power or whatever. I personally love it when the game's world resists me.
The Faceless Master
(05-20-2017, 03:09 AM)
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snow levels borrow too much from real snow?
Cranster
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(05-20-2017, 03:12 AM)
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One of the best missions in FPS history.

GhostWriter24
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(05-20-2017, 03:12 AM)
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Always loved snow areas in WoW.

TLoU was insanely good too.
Col.Asher
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(05-20-2017, 03:14 AM)
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The snowpeak ruins in twilight princess is my favorite dungeon in the series due to aesthetics alone. I like snow areas, they tend to be my favorite.
xzeldax3
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(05-20-2017, 04:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by PsySal

For the music.

First post GAF is on the money again.
SirMossyBloke
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(05-20-2017, 04:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Otakumegane


Why do snow levels even exist?

You also missed:

5. The most boring landscapes to walk through
Spacejaws
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(05-20-2017, 04:51 AM)
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I've always loved every snow map in the Battlefield series.

Yea it skips alot of you're complaints by default but still I love the aesthetic and dat signature footstep crunch that would make the creepy rice crispy goblins proud.
Mr_Moogle
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(05-20-2017, 04:56 AM)
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Now that you mention it OP, a lot of my favourite videogame locations have snow in them.

- Phendrana Drifts (Metroid Prime)
- Narshe (FFVI)
- Icicle Inn (FFVII)
- Ice Cap Zone (Sonic 3)
- Yoshis Island - World 5 (in particular downhill skiing)
ldar247
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(05-20-2017, 04:57 AM)
They're my favourite. They tend to have great music and aesthetics and I actually like platforming on slippery areas.

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