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harSon · Dec 28, 2015

DeathyBoy said:
'Bad action scenes'

I don't even. Like he's clearly not the best, but some of you guys clearly demonstrate no knowledge of truly bad action sequences. Like the chase between Blade and Drake in Blade 3.

Prepare for Gifs

Einchy · Dec 28, 2015

DeathyBoy said:
'Bad action scenes'

I don't even. Like he's clearly not the best, but some of you guys clearly demonstrate no knowledge of truly bad action sequences. Like the chase between Blade and Drake in Blade 3.

I loved every movie Nolan has done but he's pretty bad at action.

Firemind · Dec 28, 2015

marrec said:
It was less about the French surrender and more about the incompetence of the German High Command. If they had decided to move on Dunkirk instead of consolidating their forces they would have captured hundreds of thousands of Allied troops and probably gotten a surrender out of Britain.

Yeah, but it's not like the French and British forces were just going to surrender at Dunkirk. Though I suppose the German mobile divisions could have used that time to advance to Dunkirk and cut off their main route of escape. /armchair general

JABEE · Dec 28, 2015

My only fear is that this movie will have some hackneyed Sci-Fi twist, because that is what people expect.

Nolan should make a great genre film, not a Nolan film.

afternoon delight · Dec 28, 2015

Hope he aims for the real instead of crummy sentimentality!

Smokey_Run · Dec 28, 2015

Surprised the part about Tom Hardy, Kenneth Branagh, and Mark Rylance being in talks to join the movie were left out of the OP.

MMarston · Dec 28, 2015

JABEE said:
My only fear is that this movie will have some hackneyed Sci-Fi twist, because that is what people expect.

Nolan should make a great genre film, not a Nolan film.

The fact that this is getting released in the summer blockbuster season makes me feel like there's a big element we're not aware of yet.

Not saying sci-fi necessarily but...

SlimySnake · Dec 28, 2015

ArmGunar said:
Pirates 5 (7th July) - Action blockbuster for teenagers and some millenials.

Planet of the Apes (14th July) - Thinking man's action blockbuster for old people and young people alike.

Pitch Perfect 3 (21st Juy) - Targeted to female audiences.
Dunkirk (21st July) - Thinking man's drama for Nolan's fans, adults, people sick of comic book movies, people sick of four straight months of action blockbusters, people sick of sequels, people sick of prequels, people sick of reboots...

Spiderman (28th July) - Targeted to comic book fans.

Nice release date

FTFY,

Besides, Nolan always makes him film relatively cheap, and in under two years and almost always under budget. Interstellar 'only' made $56 million in its opening weekend and was still profitable. This movie will run through out the summer and slowly make its money back and then some.

It will be huge in Europe.

ProudCanuck · Dec 28, 2015

10 bucks this is about the strategy of the battle and escape rather than the battle and escape itself.

SlimySnake · Dec 28, 2015

SCULLIBUNDO said:
I love Joe Wright, but that scene is honestly kind of empty outside of the fact it was done in one take. It's an incredibly impressive visual and technical feat that draws attention to itself and away from the film at hand.

I'm going to start a firestorm with this, but I hate this shot. Okay, hate is strong, but this shot is, in my opinion, the quintessential example of a shot that takes you out of the movie. The shot has no meaning, no importance to the film. It's not enhancing what's going on on screen, it's not important to build a mood, it's simply there to be impressive. You end up being impressed by the shot rather than being drawn further into the story.

Comparatively, the tracking shot in the first season of True Detective perfectly enhances the chaos on screen as they rush through house after house. In the opening of Touch of Evil, a bomb is planted under a car, and the lack of cuts focuses tension since we're acutely aware of the passage of time.

There are tons of other examples, of course (Gravity, Nostalghia, Children of Men), but the important point is that in every case, the shot is saying something about what's happening in the story. Here, it's just saying "look what a cool shot this is!"

I agree with you both actually. I have grown to dislike one shot takes because they take me out of the movie. But I still admire the technical wizardry and the ambition required to make this happen.

I wish there was more to this scene than just James MaCovoy walking around the beach. The horse scene killed me though.

Joni · Dec 28, 2015

JABEE said:
My only fear is that this movie will have some hackneyed Sci-Fi twist, because that is what people expect.

Nolan should make a great genre film, not a Nolan film.

It is basically Memento and Insomnia versus Inception and Interstellar with The Prestige somewhere in the middle, as it has a hackneyed sci-fi twist which isn't the important twist. So that is three great genre films.

CopperPuppy · Dec 28, 2015

SlimySnake said:
FTFY,

Besides, Nolan always makes him film relatively cheap, and in under two years and almost always under budget. Interstellar 'only' made $56 million in its opening weekend and was still profitable. This movie will run through out the summer and slowly make its money back and then some.

It will be huge in Europe.

"Thinking man's drama for Nolan's fans, adults" better be the OT title.

Spaghetti · Dec 28, 2015

if this is a step away from high concept, low substance films for nolan i am all fuckin for it.

Zukuu · Dec 28, 2015

What's with the resurgence of WW II flicks in recent years?

TeddyBoy · Dec 28, 2015

Firemind said:
Really now. I thought its signifcance was debated among historians. There's no doubt a loss of 300,000 men would have been tremendous, but I thought the Allies already evacuated a high number of personnel before the French surrendered.

The significance in pure military terms is certainly up to debate. Despite the Allies saving a very large number of men they had lost almost all their military equipment for these soldiers. All tanks/artillery and other armour had to be left in France which was actually much harder to replace than mere men.

The evacuation became significant because the British press badly needed some good PR at the time since the Nazi's had still overrun the entirety of France and had the defeat of Norway and Denmark was only a few months prior.

marrec said:
It was less about the French surrender and more about the incompetence of the German High Command. If they had decided to move on Dunkirk instead of consolidating their forces they would have captured hundreds of thousands of Allied troops and probably gotten a surrender out of Britain.

Thankfully the Nazi's were afraid they didn't have the supplies to directly attack Dunkirk (they were pretty much out of fuel at this point) and Goering overestimated the Luftwaffe's ability in the field so they just bombed Dunkirk whilst the city itself was surrounded.

I'm quite curious as to how this battle will translate to film following the perspective of a single soldier since not many will be directly attacking the Nazis.

harSon · Dec 28, 2015

Zukuu said:
What's with the resurgence of WW II flicks in recent years?

Hollywood is prone to cycles.

Calm waterfall · Dec 28, 2015

Dammit. I was hoping to see more innovative and original ideas from him.

| Praxis | · Dec 28, 2015

I'm still recovering and picking myself up off of the floor after the shock of a WW2 film being made that isn't centred around the Americans.

I love stuff about the war, so I'm excited.

AndyD · Dec 28, 2015

DMczaf said:
I wonder if WB gave Nolan their prime summer spot before finding out what the hell it was.

"You want it? YOU GOT IT! PLS NOLAN."

*3 months later*

"...it's a time travel sequence, right?"

I see you have read those books as well. Interesting to see on the big screen and with a decent budget.

max-pain · Dec 28, 2015

SlimySnake said:
FTFY,

Besides, Nolan always makes him film relatively cheap

What?
Except Prestige every fucking Nolan movie from the last 10 years has a $150M+ budget.

cyba89 · Dec 28, 2015

I'm already putting everyone of you calling this a flop on my list for that next epic crow-eating thread.

Smokey_Run · Dec 28, 2015

max-pain said:
What?
Except Prestige every fucking Nolan movie from the last 10 years has a $150M+ budget.

It's a large budget, but he generally comes in under budget and on-time.

Aurongel · Dec 28, 2015

Knowing Nolan and the types of themes he likes to direct, I thought for sure his next project would be AI related.

This is a pleasant surprise though, I feel like Nolan deserves some respect for at least attempting to add some depth and genuine artistry to standard blockbuster fare. I'll be interested to see what the narrative perspective for Dunkirk is.

Though I already see people in this thread brining up the long take from Atonement. My question to those people is: did you watch the movie that comes before and after that scene? Atonement may be impressive on a photographic level but the rest of that movie is a hot, hot mess.

SCULLIBUNDO · Dec 28, 2015

Aurongel said:
Knowing Nolan and the types of themes he likes to direct, I thought for sure his next project would be AI related.

This is a pleasant surprise though, I feel like Nolan deserves some respect for at least attempting to add some depth and genuine artistry to standard blockbuster fare. I'll be interested to see what the narrative perspective for Dunkirk is.

Though I already see people in this thread brining up the long take from Atonement. My question to those people is: did you watch the movie that comes before and after that scene? Atonement may be impressive on a photographic level but the rest of that movie is a hot, hot mess.

Atonement is pretty great, actually. But its biggest strengths do indeed lie in its visuals and score. Dario Marianelli's score on that film is amazing.

obear · Dec 28, 2015

In my opinion Nolan is batting 100. I haven't seen his very first movie. But everything else he does is gold. I would watch a movie about a turds journey down the toilet if he wrote and directed

LegendofDragoonLives · Dec 28, 2015

Noooooooo.. Another WWII movie. I know they haven't made many of them recently, but it's the one genre where I'm completely burned out on. Saying that it's Nolan. So I have to go and see it.

Blader · Dec 28, 2015

Has it been mentioned yet that Tom Hardy and Kenneth Brannagh are in talks to join?

And apparently the leads will be unknowns.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/christopher-nolan-direct-wwii-film-851289

strafer · Dec 28, 2015

Tom Hardy you say?

Well that's 500 million in the BO.

Dynamite Shikoku · Dec 28, 2015

Ehh is the evacuation of Dunkirk that interesting

SCULLIBUNDO · Dec 28, 2015

LegendofDragoonLives said:
Noooooooo.. Another WWII movie. I know they haven't made many of them recently, but it's the one genre where I'm completely burned out on. Saying that it's Nolan. So I have to go and see it.

I like to think that WWII isn't a genre anymore. Not every film these days covering WWII is The Longest Day.

Rktk · Dec 28, 2015

Blader said:
Has it been mentioned yet that Tom Hardy and Kenneth Brannagh are in talks to join?

And apparently the leads will be unknowns.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/christopher-nolan-direct-wwii-film-851289

Love me some Kenneth Brannagh.

raindoc · Dec 28, 2015

obin_gam said:
tl;dr British soldiers evacuated a site from the nazis. And it went well.

Worst tl;dr ever.

SlimySnake · Dec 28, 2015

Aurongel said:
Knowing Nolan and the types of themes he likes to direct, I thought for sure his next project would be AI related.

This is a pleasant surprise though, I feel like Nolan deserves some respect for at least attempting to add some depth and genuine artistry to standard blockbuster fare. I'll be interested to see what the narrative perspective for Dunkirk is.

Though I already see people in this thread brining up the long take from Atonement. My question to those people is: did you watch the movie that comes before and after that scene? Atonement may be impressive on a photographic level but the rest of that movie is a hot, hot mess.

Maybe I was influenced by the amazing soundtrack and visuals, but I really didnt think the movie was a mess. I thought the acting was phenomenal and the story had some gut wrenching moments. Some of it felt a bit unearned towards the end, but man that movie had an effect on me.

P.S being vague because dont want to ruin any surprises for people who havent seen it.

Currygan · Dec 28, 2015

now I'm sad because I want a Montgomery movie directed by Nolan instead of this

bombs flying and he sipping some tea

LegendofDragoonLives · Dec 28, 2015

INST said:
Nolan could direct him fucking my GF and I'd watch it. Teach us, Christ Nolan. We are not worthy:

Just need a confirmation that Zimmer is doing the score and Fassbender is attached as well. Then you have my permission to freeze me in.

hahaha oh wow

Cagey said:
The long shot of the beach at Dunkirk in Atonement will be far better than this movie.

We need a tip your fedora icon for all the edgy posts like this one.

SlimySnake · Dec 28, 2015

max-pain said:
What?
Except Prestige every fucking Nolan movie from the last 10 years has a $150M+ budget.

I did say 'relatively' cheap.

Also this.

Paramount and Warner Bros., which backed Interstellar, were prepared to spend close to $200 million to make the movie, according to a person with knowledge of the plans. Mr. Nolan responded that he didnt need that much money, despite the pictures extensive use of digital and physical effects to create robots, dust storms, and mile-high waves.

And in contrast to the frantic last-minute reshoots of so many big-budget movies, Mr. Nolans work is reliable. He delivers films that are remarkably close to what he originally pitched to his backers. They come in ahead of schedule and under budget. Last April, a time when many summer releases were still far from complete, studio executives saw Mr. Nolans first cut of Interstellarnearly identical to the one hitting theaters now.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-hollywood-loves-interstellar-director-christopher-nolan-1414677657

More Fun To Compute · Dec 28, 2015

They are going to get rid of the small boats and have the troops transported across the channel magically by the universal power of love.

SCULLIBUNDO · Dec 28, 2015

SlimySnake said:
I did say 'relatively' cheap.

Also this.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-hollywood-loves-interstellar-director-christopher-nolan-1414677657

lol relatively cheap. Relative to what? You do know that most films aren't actually $200m+ tentpoles.

Mass_Pincup · Dec 28, 2015

Ohhhh Dunkirk is actually Dunkerque. I was like "legendary? I'm french and I never heard of this'

Quite excited to see this then.

Technosteve · Dec 28, 2015

obin_gam said:
Reading up about the Evacuation of Dunkirk, it sounds really boring.
tl;dr British soldiers evacuated a site from the nazis. And it went well.

Here's hoping Nolan can spice it up a bit...

the last remnants of the French army held off the entire german army while the english ran away. have some fucking respect.

Branduil · Dec 28, 2015

obear said:
In my opinion Nolan is batting 100. I haven't seen his very first movie. But everything else he does is gold. I would watch a movie about a turds journey down the toilet if he wrote and directed

Batting .100 would actually be really bad.

ThoseDeafMutes · Dec 28, 2015

The Lone Courier said:
Whats the twist?

"We need to get off this destroyer. I have to go back for her."

"An evacuation within an evacuation? You're insane! That's impossible!"

"No. It's necessary."

kodecraft · Dec 28, 2015

DMczaf said:
Creed redeemed Meek a little bit after getting wiped off the Earth by Lord Drake.

This is Stan talk.

RustyNails · Dec 28, 2015

Ken Watanabe as an important person with incomprehensible english

FStop7 · Dec 28, 2015

People don't know what happened at Dunkirk?

SlimySnake · Dec 28, 2015

SCULLIBUNDO said:
lol relatively cheap. Relative to what? You do know that most films aren't actually $200m+ tentpoles.

Relative to Summer Action blockbuster movies that Nolan makes.

Interstellar is a three hour movie that was made on a $165 million budget. Thor freaking 2 was made for $170. You look at pretty much every comic book summer blockbuster nowadays and they cost over $200 mil.

Anyway, the article says it right there. he comes in under budget and ahead of schedule. That saves the studio money.

Squire · Dec 28, 2015

Marion Cotillard has to be in this.

Or Lea Seydoux.

max-pain · Dec 28, 2015

SlimySnake said:
I did say 'relatively' cheap.

Relatively cheap and slightly under budget are two very different terms.

More Fun To Compute · Dec 28, 2015

FStop7 said:
People don't know what happened at Dunkirk?

Why do you think that British war stories end up being rewritten in the cinema as USA war stories.

Einchy · Dec 28, 2015

FStop7 said:
People don't know what happened at Dunkirk?

Don't spoil it for me, bro.

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