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But if it sell 50k fw, the bar of success should still be 300k (or 500k), right? I mean, as a new ip, 300k LTD will be a pretty good result.
Anyway, I don't know Nintendo's target, so it's just my expectation.
AdventureRacing
Member
Good start for arms. Also Zelda and Mario kart continue with strong sales. SW sales are looking good so far. Hopefully supply doesn't drop back as low as it was previous weeks but I'm not expecting anything big.
PS4 continues to perform surprisingly well, looks like it may have gotten a MHW bump. It's going to close to if not have its biggest year this year.
PS4 continues to perform surprisingly well, looks like it may have gotten a MHW bump. It's going to close to if not have its biggest year this year.
already bought it at launch so no worry here
LordOcidax
Member
With Eshop DD can be over 130k...
kuroneko0509
Member
damn. I guess maxshit ends up having the last laugh after all
What makes the measure of success low for Arms? Nintendo treated it as the next major new IP after Splatoon. Comparison can't be with PS4 titles.
TheLegendaryN
Member
I thought you were talking in general. My bad. For ARMS, I expect similar results yeah.
Yagami_Sama
Member
Great number for ARMS. Even though is not a game that I liked, great first week. Now I am interested in know how Pokken DX will perform.
July will be a very interesting month.
July will be a very interesting month.
It's been under 20k regularly so your expectations aren't that far off.
This is not about all about financial profit.
Lets said, even if Zelda BoTW reach profit with 3 million sales, those number would be a disaster level as opportunity cost wasted on such small sales number is going to be absolutely huge which is the same case for ARMS here.
It probably would be profitable with 1 million sales. But does that mean that the whole project is successful? I would said no as if thats the case, they should go and develop other games/genre which is able to sold even more there.
FreedomFighter
Member
They must've made adjustments.
Just like Arms won't become the next Splatoon at sales it wouldn't open with only 50k. There were many hints how things were improving rapidly last days for preorders, promotion and general interest around the game.But if it sell 50k fw, the bar of success should still be 300k (or 500k), right? I mean, as a new ip, 300k LTD will be a pretty good result.
Anyway, I don't know Nintendo's target, so it's just my expectation.
This pretty much falls within my expectations:
Good opening for ARMS, but the stock situation truly has me a bit concerned now. It's very likely that Nintendo held back some stock for ARMS launch, yet, sub-40k was all they could put out. My new hope is that they can keep shipment to this kevel consistently, but I just don't see that happening. Splatoon 2...
Good opening for ARMS, but the stock situation truly has me a bit concerned now. It's very likely that Nintendo held back some stock for ARMS launch, yet, sub-40k was all they could put out. My new hope is that they can keep shipment to this kevel consistently, but I just don't see that happening. Splatoon 2...
Laplasakos
Member
Not really. It's been under 20k from mid April until now, with some 20k+ weeks. After the slim release and price cut it had really good sales.
BTW, really nice opening for Arms. Wonder what the LTD will be.
Which was the point. The slow/weak summer line-up + major software droughts have resulted in sub-20k weeks... which is April until now (and continuing) with some fluxuations around it.
You said what I said what was the idea to reinforce what was initially quoted. So... I am confused.
LordOcidax
Member
Famitsu numbers.
https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/
ARMS 122,007
Nintendo Switch --------49,440
Playstation 4 ------------- 22,117
New Nintendo 3DS ----12,112
Playstation Vita ---------- 4,573
Playstation 3 -------------324
Wii U-------------------------253
Xbox One S -------------- 69
https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/
ARMS 122,007
Nintendo Switch --------49,440
Playstation 4 ------------- 22,117
New Nintendo 3DS ----12,112
Playstation Vita ---------- 4,573
Playstation 3 -------------324
Wii U-------------------------253
Xbox One S -------------- 69
AcademicSaucer
Member
Amazing launch for ARMS considering the install base of Switch in Japan, even more for a new fighting game IP
Laplasakos
Member
You used the work ''regularly'' which doesn't really translate to the last two months but longer. At least i read it that way.
Anyway, what caused the 5k jump for the PS4? There wasn't any significant release so could it be the MH World announcement? Unless i am mistaken, i remember that PS4 had a 4k jump without any new software the week FFVIIR was announced.
Also YSVIII numbers are strangely good considering that it was already available for VITA. I guess the game has good reception?
boiled goose
good with gravy
Nintendo stacks year one with software...
Fails to capitalize on demand with sufficient supply.
What a mess.... :/
Fails to capitalize on demand with sufficient supply.
What a mess.... :/
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Its not good but remember this is a 6+ year long marathon, not a sprint.
LordOcidax
Member
Acording to Famitsu 156,610 vs 122,007. Almost...
Nintendo is doomed no matter what... lol
metalslimer
Member
I mean I don't expect this to be an aberrant year in terms of software for Nintendo. Next year could be an even bigger year if there are things like Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Kirby, Yoshi, and maybe Smash.
With the consolidation of systems I don't think they ever really have to worry about a 5-6 month software drought ever again. This is what killed the Wiis momentum led to an even easier failure for Wii U.
Love the attach rate graphs, thank you for providing them. Curious to see if Splatoon 2 will reach +70% or some other crazy number. Which is certainly easier on a console's first year.
Peléo;241444965 said:
Thanks, glad you enjoy them! I personally think Splatoon 2 has a chance at reaching an >70% attach rate in its second week, although it's not a guarantee at all yet of course. Personally think it can do > 1 million in 2 weeks, so we'll see if that pans out!
Anything on the gameplay style?
No. All we know is that it uses claymation models captured with photogrammetry, with gameplay details coming after Terra Battle 2 launches this Summer. Sakaguchi did say that the title will give you a pretty good idea of how it plays though.
Unless you mean Terra Battle 2, which sounds like it's built around the same core mechanics as Terra Battle, but expanded/re-imagined and with higher production values for how they present it.
Laplasakos
Member
As i said earlier, really good debut for Arms but since i am seeing people comparing it with other fighting games i can't understand why they don't mention JoJo PS3 at all which debuted with 425k.
whyamihere
Banned
With Eshop DD can be over 130k...
Honestly, this is impressive. I wonder if it can get 1mil worldwide. Would be pretty crazy for a new fighting franchise.
nice.
Terra Battle had a pretty strong launch (was frequently in the 10-20 range), but it had no meaningful post launch support for a very long time, and lost its entire audience.
Mobile games update every 1-2 weeks these days with major content.
They're trying to follow this approach with the sequel, having a new chapter every week.
AdventureRacing
Member
I think it should do 1 million easily. Depending on the reception in the US it may be able to go on and become a multimillion selling game.
That's probably one of the key reasons they are teaming with actual game studios for both games too.
lwilliams3
Member
Wow!!
Why is their HW number for Switch so different from MC
Phife Dawg
Member
Are DL codes sold by Amazon (not the physical cards) really tracked?
4M is even more optimistic than me lol. I can see ARMS LTD in the end reaching 3 mill or exceeding the number a bit while below 4 mil WW.
Evergreen titles from Nintendo will still go strong all till the end of generation though.
I think Jojo......had such a crazy backlash which cause its price and second weeks disastrous collapse right that it is hard to compare lol.
No. All we know is that it uses claymation models captured with photogrammetry, with gameplay details coming after Terra Battle 2 launches this Summer. Sakaguchi did say that the title will give you a pretty good idea of how it plays though.
Unless you mean Terra Battle 2, which sounds like it's built around the same core mechanics as Terra Battle, but expanded/re-imagined and with higher production values for how they present it.
The first thing I think of when I hear Terra Wars is that it's an Advance Wars style game, but then the image doesn't look like it.
And then I get the title confused with Terra Formars.
Next guess is that it looks like it could be a MOBA going by the image but that might be a stretch.
I think the idea is that it's a strategy RPG given he drew parallels to how Final Fantasy was setup with Terra Battle 2 being a new mainline game, and this is a spin-off with a strategy like title a la Final Fantasy Tactics.
The full image has a lot of varying terrain height and things like bridges and rivers that would fit with a Tactics-esque game as well:
Interesting, so the quality of the game was not the reason it tanked.
Yeah. It held for a surprisingly long time given the lack of updates.