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The Dutch Slayer · May 31, 2012

Also coming to steam but I not know YET if that means that GFW(live) is dropped or not.

Dark Souls PC coming to Steam, consoles to get PC content

Namco Bandai’s announced the PC version of Dark Souls will come to Steam, while the console version will get the previously-exclusive PC content on August 24 as DLC as Artorias of the Abyss.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/05/31/dar...soles-to-get-pc-content/#.T8coaanxAL4.twitter

[edit] beaten :O

Cloudius12 · May 31, 2012

It is definitely going to come with GFWL.

Also yay for DLC for console version.

Misterinenja · May 31, 2012

Wow at new trailer. Artorias looks badass.

Cloudius12 · May 31, 2012

Sweep move

Sentenza · May 31, 2012

Jintor said:
It's the ease of porting xbox code to PC I reckon.

Well, who cares? You don't save money including something no one wants.
Especially when the unpopularity of that service will probably cost you more money and lost sales of what you're actually saving.

I won't lie saying that now I'm not interested in the game anymore, because I am.
But now I know for a fact that the multiplayer for this game will be dead on arrival, as it comes on a service that virtually no one likes to use.

michaelius · May 31, 2012

So do we know if they locked resolution and framerate or not ?

No matter how much i'm interested in game being capped to 30fps at 720p is unacceptable.

Glass Rebel · May 31, 2012

TucoBenedictoPacifico said:
Well, who cares? You don't save money including something no one wants.
Especially when the unpopularity of that service will probably cost you more money and lost sales of what you're actually saving.

I won't lie saying that now I'm not interested in the game anymore, because I am.
But now I know for a fact that the multiplayer for this game will be dead on arrival, as it comes on a service that virtually no one likes to use.

I just can't imagine Steamworks being so hard to implement. The moment they need to put a patch through MS they will realize how much they fucked up.

WorstUsernameEver · May 31, 2012

michaelius said:
So do we know if they locked resolution and framerate or not ?

No matter how much i'm interested in game being capped to 30fps at 720p is unacceptable.

GameSpy's chief debunked the locked resolution thing a while ago. Texture resolution is unchanged, that's what they were referring to.

Aaron · May 31, 2012

Glass Rebel said:
I just can't imagine Steamworks being so hard to implement. The moment they need to put a patch through MS they will realize how much they fucked up.

You're right, you can't imagine it because you have no idea how hard network code is. Unless you're a developer using steamworks for multiplayer you really shouldn't be judging how easy / hard it is to do.

Robot Pants · May 31, 2012

Pc version looking less and less appealing. Glad to have the dlc on consoles though

Natiko · May 31, 2012

Awesome news that it's going to be DLC.

Jintor · May 31, 2012

TucoBenedictoPacifico said:
Well, who cares? You don't save money including something no one wants.
Especially when the unpopularity of that service will probably cost you more money and lost sales of what you're actually saving.

I won't lie saying that now I'm not interested in the game anymore, because I am.
But now I know for a fact that the multiplayer for this game will be dead on arrival, as it comes on a service that virtually no one likes to use.

I think the GFWL backlash is big, but I don't think it's cost-them-sales big.

Glass Rebel · May 31, 2012

Aaron said:
You're right, you can't imagine it because you have no idea how hard network code is. Unless you're a developer using steamworks for multiplayer you really shouldn't be judging how easy / hard it is to do.

My point still stands, it would be a good investment both for gamers and developers when they want to support it in the future.

nasos_333 · May 31, 2012

Natiko said:
Awesome news that it's going to be DLC.

Thank the almighty gods, now i wont have to loose my 300 hours heroes on PS3 version

Best of news

Sentenza · May 31, 2012

Glass Rebel said:
I just can't imagine Steamworks being so hard to implement. The moment they need to put a patch through MS they will realize how much they fucked up.

It isn't. Especially considering how if you want to implement it you can have Valve free support over the task.

Cloudius12 · May 31, 2012

Just remember they are still pretty new to PC development. Hopefully in the future they will use Steamworks.

Tdog987 · May 31, 2012

Is the console version running at 30fps?

Vaporak · May 31, 2012

TucoBenedictoPacifico said:
Says who?
It sold scraps on 360 anyway. How can you be sure the PC version won't top that?

Says history, late ports basically never sell as well as the original release. Businesses should just be realistic about this.

Jintor said:
I think the GFWL backlash is big, but I don't think it's cost-them-sales big.

Eh I think it is, GFWL is pretty unpopular and Steamworks is very popular. I won't try and generalize my position, but I'm not day 1ing this anymore since the GFWL announcement, it's firmly in "when it's on sale for cheap" territory now because of problems I've had with GFWL in the past.

AlphaDragoon · May 31, 2012

Cloudius12 said:
Sweep move

I said the same thing, holy shit sweep kicks. :O

zkylon · May 31, 2012

Glad to hear the console guys will get their due DLC as well, because this allows me as a PC gamer to whine on how we always get the shortest straw

GFWL has stopped me from buying games I really wanted in the past (Arkham City), but I won't be as strong this time...

Aaron · May 31, 2012

Glass Rebel said:
My point still stands, it would be a good investment both for gamers and developers when they want to support it in the future.

Unless you know the cost of the implementation and projected sales of the PC version you can't say that. You can say you'd want it, but you can't say it would be good for developers unless you know they'd make a return on the sunk cost. I'm sure the developers have a far better idea of that than anyone else.

Arkham City is fine after the patch. I've had problems with GFWL before, but AC has been no issues.

Team Filler · May 31, 2012

Vaporak said:
Says history, late ports basically never sell as well as the original release. Businesses should just be realistic about this.

Alan Wake says "Hi".

Sentenza · May 31, 2012

Vaporak said:
Says history, late ports basically never sell as well as the original release. Businesses should just be realistic about this.

Still, it sold poorly on 360, and it's a genre very popular on PC.
Let me be as clear as I can get: if this was a decent port and a Steamworks title I would bet big money on the PC version outselling the 360 one and maybe -MAYBE- even paired or topped the PS3 version.

Now, with what they said about the straight port and GFWL in, I'm really not so sure anymore.

Sentenza · May 31, 2012

Aaron said:
I'm sure the developers have a far better idea of that than anyone else.

Judging by how they handled this, I' mquite sure that they don't.
In fact, I would go so far to say they seem quite clueless about how to approach the PC market.

jyx · May 31, 2012

Fantastic news!!! Will buy DLC day one. In my opinion Dark souls is the best game released this generation. Pure game heaven!!!!

krakov · May 31, 2012

TucoBenedictoPacifico said:
Still, it sold poorly on 360.

Any numbers?
Game is really active on 360 still at least, but I guess this one has a lot of dedicated players.

Sentenza · May 31, 2012

krakov said:
Any numbers?
Game is really active on 360 still at least, but I guess this one has a lot of dedicated players.

Last time I checked it was somewhere over a million for PS3 and roughly 300,000 copies on 360.

Glass Rebel · May 31, 2012

Aaron said:
Unless you know the cost of the implementation and projected sales of the PC version you can't say that. You can say you'd want it, but you can't say it would be good for developers unless you know they'd make a return on the sunk cost. I'm sure the developers have a far better idea of that than anyone else.

Arkham City is fine after the patch. I've had problems with GFWL before, but AC has been no issues.

Steamworks is free, you get Valve support and you don't have to run your patches through MS' lengthy and expensive certification process. They would get familiar with the system for future games and garner a lot of goodwill from the PC base. It's a no-brainer really if you're serious about PC development unless you have your own system like Rockstar. You're right, I don't know the costs but I know that more and more PC developers are moving away from GFWL and towards Steamworks unless they're MS funded indies or Capcom.

Also, from my experience with the service, Arkham City is fine despite GFWL, not thanks to it.

ripastraea · May 31, 2012

Such good news

Backfoggen · May 31, 2012

Probably just gonna get the DLC on consoles since that's where I got my character.

WickedLaharl · May 31, 2012

TucoBenedictoPacifico said:
Last time I checked it was somewhere over a million for PS3 and roughly 300,000 copies on 360.

And where did you check to obtain this information?

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