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Santiako
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(08-17-2017, 08:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Boogiepop

Just to confirm... how worried should I be about you guys all being down on these Commander decks, with the Cat one in particular being the one I was interested in, despite seemingly getting the most dislike in here I think? Like, is it more of a "this isn't doing as crazy things as I'd like", or more of a "this is actively not a very good deck"? I was planning on using this as a cheap way of getting back into Magic and have a deck to play against friends without having to get into the arms race of constantly needing to upgrade and buy a ton of new cards and crap, which in past experiences has been the issue I run into with TCGs. And before the reveals the impression I seemed to get wherever I asked around were that these decks would be perfect for that. But now I'm getting kind of worried, what with how down on them everyone seems to be...

Oh, they are perfectly fine for casual play and a fantastic way to get into the game for cheap. We are down because we are a bunch of jaded people and the new cards aren't as powerful as previous years so don't worry about us.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(08-17-2017, 08:16 PM)

Originally Posted by charlequin

This, more than anything else, really shows off how big the gap is between this thread's positions and the broader playerbase. The casual appeal for Cats is huge.

We'll see, the appeal for me iin cats s more as a novelty as I've been there and done that for other tribes when I was playing nothing but kitchentable magic for more than a decade.
Angry Grimace
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(08-17-2017, 08:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Familienoberhauptvogel

I honest to Gods don't know anymore if LSV and Gaby dating is a meta joke or totally legit.

Its not a meta joke. Lots of people have confirmed they don't hide it when they go around GPs or whatever. It's just not a thing they actively make a part of the conversation.

It's actually a pretty smart way to go about it. They're not the type that have publicists or anything so why would they need to do anything about it? Just do whatever you want to do.
Violet_0
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(08-17-2017, 08:29 PM)

Originally Posted by Boogiepop

Just to confirm... how worried should I be about you guys all being down on these Commander decks, with the Cat one in particular being the one I was interested in, despite seemingly getting the most dislike in here I think? Like, is it more of a "this isn't doing as crazy things as I'd like", or more of a "this is actively not a very good deck"? I was planning on using this as a cheap way of getting back into Magic and have a deck to play against friends without having to get into the arms race of constantly needing to upgrade and buy a ton of new cards and crap, which in past experiences has been the issue I run into with TCGs. And before the reveals the impression I seemed to get wherever I asked around were that these decks would be perfect for that. But now I'm getting kind of worried, what with how down on them everyone seems to be...

well, you're going to have to upgrade any of those pre-con EDH decks regardless, unless you're playing with a very casual group. Any of these decks get shut down easily by sweepers, which tend to be thrown around liberally. Since you're locked to one creature type, the dragon deck has vastly more room to improve than the cat deck, for example, which has far fewer options for powerful cards with relevant synergy
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(08-17-2017, 08:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Angry Grimace

Its not a meta joke. Lots of people have confirmed they don't hide it when they go around GPs or whatever. It's just not a thing they actively make a part of the conversation.

It's actually a pretty smart way to go about it. They're not the type that have publicists or anything so why would they need to do anything about it? Just do whatever you want to do.

oh definitely, very welll handled by the both of them. Especially considering the both of them having gone through divorces.
charlequin
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(08-17-2017, 08:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Boogiepop

Just to confirm... how worried should I be about you guys all being down on these Commander decks

I'm not saying anything about the actual quality of this particular prroduct, but the median response in this thread to every product and release tacks a decent way into the negative, I don't think it has much predictive value.
bigkrev
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(08-17-2017, 08:53 PM)
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Alright, you fuckers actually made me go and check something. I hate that I did this, and hate that I was compelled to do this.

Pro Tour Eldrich Moon: wearing a ring


Worlds 2016: wearing a Ring


Pro Tour Kaladesh: no Ring
OnPoint
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(08-17-2017, 08:57 PM)
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God damn who cares? Let them date! Good for them and everything for finding happiness, sincerely, but what does it matter that it comes up in here several times a month?
Joe Molotov
(08-17-2017, 09:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by bigkrev

Alright, you fuckers actually made me go and check something. I hate that I did this, and hate that I was compelled to do this.

Pro Tour Eldrich Moon: wearing a ring


Worlds 2016: wearing a Ring


Pro Tour Kaladesh: no Ring

Pretty sure people mentioned it in this thread after PT Kaladesh.
Angry Grimace
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(08-17-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by OnPoint

God damn who cares? Let them date! Good for them and everything for finding happiness, sincerely, but what does it matter that it comes up in here several times a month?

It's like the Jon and Dany of the Multiverse.
Ashodin
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(08-17-2017, 09:07 PM)
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yo this thread getting way too creepy for me
Angry Grimace
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(08-17-2017, 09:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ashodin

yo this thread getting way too creepy for me

Nothing interesting is happening, what did you expect
Joe Molotov
(08-17-2017, 09:12 PM)
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We could ship Nissa and Chandra some more if that helps.
Santiako
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(08-17-2017, 09:13 PM)
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Seriously, stop with this LSV and Gaby shit. They're both divorced adults, what they do is their business and theirs alone.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(08-17-2017, 09:19 PM)
They literally streamed together just yesterday. They both are people very public in this hobby of ours, it's only natural they'd become a topic every now and then.

There's really not that much creepy, apart from the sleuthing.
HK-47
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(08-17-2017, 09:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Angry Grimace

Nothing interesting is happening, what did you expect

I expect it to be boring. Not boring and creepy
aidan
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(08-17-2017, 09:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Santiako

Seriously, stop with this LSV and Gaby shit. They're both divorced adults, what they do is their business and theirs alone.

Can we talk about who we ship from MagicGAF? I'm totally on the Ashodin/kirblar bandwagon.
OnPoint
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(08-17-2017, 09:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Santiako

Seriously, stop with this LSV and Gaby shit. They're both divorced adults, what they do is their business and theirs alone.

Thank you.

I'd rather hear people talk about wanting to husbando Ajani or whatever than this.
Angry Grimace
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(08-17-2017, 09:33 PM)
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You guys sure find weird things to get upset about.
Tunoku
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(08-17-2017, 09:36 PM)
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Let's talk about whether I should run 2 or 3 Soul-Scar Mages in Ramunap Red and how many Abrades I should play in the main.
Joba62x
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(08-17-2017, 09:39 PM)
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Tolarian Community College did a very informative review of the new commander decks, financial breakdown and all I would highly recommend it, easy to find on youtube.
shrapnelmagnet
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(08-17-2017, 09:39 PM)
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I wish the cat deck had more actual cats, not weird people-cats. I think I counted 6 real cats, 1 card that make real cats... Could have missed some, but still.

The Internet and casual players definitely like cats, but I don't know if they have the same love of people with cat heads and cat tails.
TheBlackMarvel
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(08-17-2017, 09:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov

We could ship Nissa and Chandra some more if that helps.

We could. Liliana X Chandra is better. :P
OnPoint
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(08-17-2017, 09:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Joba62x

Tolarian Community College did a very informative review of the new commander decks, financial breakdown and all I would highly recommend it, easy to find on youtube.

In other 'things that constantly happen in here that make people mad' things, why wouldn't you just link it? Takes all of two seconds to do lol

For people who want it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzwq8H4gc6M
aidan
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(08-17-2017, 09:47 PM)
Is Cryptic Command a balanced Magic: The Gathering card?
charlequin
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(08-17-2017, 09:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by aidan

Can we talk about who we ship from MagicGAF? I'm totally on the Ashodin/kirblar bandwagon.

is this like an opposites attract thing
aidan
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(08-17-2017, 09:49 PM)

Originally Posted by charlequin

is this like an opposites attract thing

I mean, that's how all the best romantic comedies start, right?
kirblar
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(08-17-2017, 09:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by aidan

I mean, that's how all the best romantic comedies start, right?

Also, a lot of divorces.
Violet_0
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(08-17-2017, 09:50 PM)

Originally Posted by aidan

Is Cryptic Command a balanced Magic: The Gathering card?

nuking this thread would be kinder than having this discussion
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(08-17-2017, 09:51 PM)

Originally Posted by aidan

Is Cryptic Command a balanced Magic: The Gathering card?

I feel like I said the opposite once before but yeah it is. At least in a GDS meta.
Angry Grimace
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(08-17-2017, 09:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by kirblar

Also, a lot of divorces.

Sadly true.
blindrocket
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(08-17-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Santiako

Cat and Wizards were a terrible choice in hindsight. They are not interesting and don't have a cohesive identity so the decks ended up very lacklustre.

Which tribes would you rather have seen?

I agree that cats and wizards aren't that exciting to me.

Perhaps Angels and Zombies? Or Goblins and Slivers?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(08-17-2017, 10:00 PM)
We've had this discussion before knowing all the details.

Werewolves deserve a chance in EDH.

Rats are very one dimensional.

Snakes need more support, particularly a sultai commander.

Dwarfes needed another RW push and no chance to mess up with vehicles in commander.



I really do not understand why they did dragons. Except wanting a guaranteed seller.
Ashodin
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(08-17-2017, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by aidan

Can we talk about who we ship from MagicGAF? I'm totally on the Ashodin/kirblar bandwagon.

yo what the fuck

I do like the prediction game tho
kirblar
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(08-17-2017, 10:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Familienoberhauptvogel

I really do not understand why they did dragons. Except wanting a guaranteed seller.

Yeah, how dare they do an incredibly popular high-demand tribe!
Daedardus
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(08-17-2017, 10:05 PM)
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Our recurring discussions have become stale, we need to discuss whether combat damage should use the stack again.

Originally Posted by Santiako

Seriously, stop with this LSV and Gaby shit. They're both divorced adults, what they do is their business and theirs alone.

Wait, he's actually divorced?!
Santiako
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(08-17-2017, 10:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by blindrocket

Which tribes would you rather have seen?

I agree that cats and wizards aren't that exciting to me.

Perhaps Angels and Zombies? Or Goblins and Slivers?

Goblins, Zombies and Elves are obvious choices but maybe too overrepresented, and Angels probably too similar to dragons, so I'd probably chosen Elementals, Allies, Humans, Merfolk, Fairies, Spirits or Eldrazi over those.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(08-17-2017, 10:09 PM)

Originally Posted by kirblar

Yeah, how dare they do an incredibly popular high-demand tribe!

Eh sure as I said except for having a guaranteed seller.

Dragons didn't need it as a tribe and as a Dragon tribal player they didn't even make a great jump on point for such a deck.
Simply Sarah
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(08-17-2017, 10:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov

We could ship Nissa and Chandra some more if that helps.

Nah. This ship is on the back burner for probably at least 6-7 months (if not potentially significantly long) since the next block doesn't seem like it will involve either of them and they've committed to less focus on the Gatewatch along with less "The whole team goes to Plane X". We will need new ships to keep us going in the meantime.
Bandini
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(08-17-2017, 10:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by aidan

Is Cryptic Command a balanced Magic: The Gathering card?

No, but if you ban it control goes back to being T2 in Modern. Let us win for once
blindrocket
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(08-17-2017, 10:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Familienoberhauptvogel

We've had this discussion before knowing all the details.

Werewolves deserve a chance in EDH.

Rats are very one dimensional.

Snakes need more support, particularly a sultai commander.

Dwarfes needed another RW push and no chance to mess up with vehicles in commander.



I really do not understand why they did dragons. Except wanting a guaranteed seller.

I could see Werewolves, that would be cool. I don't really see Rats, Snakes or Dwarves doing much as a tribal theme.
Angry Grimace
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(08-17-2017, 10:28 PM)
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Snakes isn't going to ever work because lolNagas
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(08-17-2017, 10:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Angry Grimace

Snakes isn't going to ever work because lolNagas

Eh no there's much more to snakes than just Amonkhet and Tarkir. And Nagas with tribal synergies can work if they are powerful enough.

I'd play Hapatra in Sultai snake deck for instance.

Originally Posted by blindrocket

I could see Werewolves, that would be cool. I don't really see Rats, Snakes or Dwarves doing much as a tribal theme.

All of them got tribal support in the past. Dwarfes also got the vehicles going for them.
blindrocket
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(08-17-2017, 10:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Familienoberhauptvo gel


All of them got tribal support in the past. Dwarfes also got the vehicles going for them.

I just mean as a boxed Commander product. They seem further down the list than other tribes that come across as more exciting. /opinion
charlequin
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(08-17-2017, 10:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Simply Sarah

We will need new ships to keep us going in the meantime.

jace x vraska tentacle sex 4evah

Originally Posted by blindrocket

I could see Werewolves, that would be cool.

It's really just production costs keeping this one down. Their stance so far is that supplemental products without a premium price can't support DFCs since the cost of printing them has to be amortized over the whole run, which is a real shame -- the absolute best option for making WWs a more viable Commander tribe would be a deck with 6-7 new printings designed for that purpose.
Ashodin
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(08-17-2017, 10:48 PM)
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I'm interested if Ashiok is interested.

They look like the type to be asexual tho
Violet_0
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(08-17-2017, 10:57 PM)

Originally Posted by charlequin

jace x vraska tentacle sex 4evah

"those aren't tentacles" - Kiora

oh god when does the spoiler season start
Ashodin
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(08-17-2017, 11:06 PM)
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Firemind and I wouldn't mind seeing futa Vraska
SigmasonicX
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(08-17-2017, 11:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Violet_0

"those aren't tentacles" - Kiora

oh god when does the spoiler season start

You have to rely on commons and uncommons being the only new information, so you'll find no solace there.
Speaking of which, we are now rivals (of Ixalan) meaning I'm now shipped with you.
Daedardus
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(08-17-2017, 11:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Violet_0

"those aren't tentacles" - Kiora

oh god when does the spoiler season start

Spoilers of Ixalan started three months ago. We can still discuss them. I do wonder though, are you really a junior is or that just a cruel tag?

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