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Shining Armor And Fine Words... The Official NO MORE HEROES Thread
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In the end I warmed up for NMH. I'm at rank 3 and just got Tsubaki III By taking
to the saber-shop. And it's hilariously awesome!
The money making is still tedious, but I just relaxed and enjoyed the pain. Cut-scenes have been great and I like the story, though it isn't anything like Killer 7 delivered. I'm missing one set of Lolikov balls, but I doubt I'll have the energy to collect them in this playthrough. And I got the "Don't touch my beard" shirt :lol Finally something to replace "Viva Mexico".
How do you get the true ending? Please no spoilers.
Thunder Ryu's Katana
The money making is still tedious, but I just relaxed and enjoyed the pain. Cut-scenes have been great and I like the story, though it isn't anything like Killer 7 delivered. I'm missing one set of Lolikov balls, but I doubt I'll have the energy to collect them in this playthrough. And I got the "Don't touch my beard" shirt :lol Finally something to replace "Viva Mexico".
How do you get the true ending? Please no spoilers.
viewtifulsub
Member
zoukka said:
Suda stated very early in development that NMH was intended to appeal to a wider audience, which explains a number of things in the game.
If your looking for a complex narative like Killer7, hold out for Flower Sun & Rain thats due out later on this year.
I've been intentionally avoiding this thread until i finished, but i might as well do my first post since having both my US and PAL copies arrive on my lap.
On my way to to the 2nd Rank battle....but holy shit Rank 5
Letz Shake boss battle was such an awesome event sequence
Suda just keeps on improving with the t-shirt designs. Killer7 had some fantastic and hilarious t-shirt designs that Travis wore, but NMH leagues ahead in this department. Some of this shirt designs are so awesome that i wish the Grasshopper Record Store stocked them
First of all, you can choose between Ending and True Ending. You can even make a save before that part so you can watch both versions. Second, the True Ending is a longer version of the normal Ending, with an extra boss-battle too. The normal Ending has different credits though.zoukka said:
Dascu said:
Aww, don't tell him everything...
But yes, once you've finished the final rank fight, you're given two or three options. To return to Santa Destroy, watch the "Ending" and then be allowed to save a New Game+ file, or to watch the "Real Ending", which only appears if you have all three Tsubaki's on your file (although, there's a slight possibility that the only one you actually need in the Mk. III, but I don't feel like testing anything like that out). You'll also be allowed so save a New Game+ file after watching the "Real Ending".
If you want to watch both endings in the same night, all you have to do is put the New Game+ file in a different slot, and then reload the original file, which will bring you back to those choices.
If you decide to return to Santa Destroy, the only things you can do is make money, and buy whatever upgrades or shirts are left. If you go to do the New Game+, it's pretty much the same thing, except with some new collectibles.
mmm... i have started to play this,it's a decent game and i'm liking it but some parts feel weak,for example having to free-roam in the city between rank fights and play minigames to earn the money you need is boring... why break the action? combat would also be a matter of mashing the A button alone... the high-low idea is a cool one but i can't remember any enemies that blocks a lot (beside if they block you can just press B and stun them so why bother?) and so it doesn't get used a lot... the real reason i enjoy the combat is all the waggle you have to do for wrestling moves and finishing blow
the overall style of the game also helps,i especialy enjoy all the 8-bitness of certain thing
the overall style of the game also helps,i especialy enjoy all the 8-bitness of certain thing
One job and one or two assassination missions are usually enough to get the money necessary for the next job, so the "boring" parts are kept to a minimum if you focus on the main game.Teasel said:
As for the battle system, enemies and bosses get harder and harder. There's actually a lot of different techniques in the game (jumping slashes, charge attacks, slow-motion side-steps, charged beat attacks, charged death blows, etc.) that are very, very useful in the later missions and assassination gigs.
NMH really gets better after each level. The missions become a lot more varied and the cutscenes are fantastic.
Dascu said:
Yeah, I'd recommend to any new players that they not buy much clothing until the Gamble Fight is unlocked (last assassination mission). There are plenty of free shirts hidden in the city already. The reason the clothing store isn't available in the earliest stages of the game is to avoid putting the player in a large hole and having to perform a load of missions to pay the next entry fee. Limiting the vast majority of your purchases toward the end game or post game will expedite the action in the core missions.
Teasel said:
I actually enjoyed that part.
Bought a Wii and this during spring break and played the hell out of it along with many other games. I got up to rank 6 I believe after 5hrs, or just under 5hrs can't remember, of play time. I loved the game, its great, I made sure I even bought it new even though they had it used, the chick asked to, for sales. I dig the motion controls and the combat, hell I dig the money side quests that reviewers bitched about. I was responsible though and left the Wii at home where its waiting for me in may.
Can't wait to get back to the game and play the second half of it this summer!
Can't wait to get back to the game and play the second half of it this summer!
Bought this 2 days ago, it was quite strange getting it too. According to GAME it was supposed to be out on the 20th but they weren't even aware it existed, there's 2 GAME stores in my town and one of them couldn't find it on their computer, the other store I went to was like "NMH? Sure I'll go see when it's released.... Oh... It's supposed to be out.. yesterday, hmmmm. I don't know why we don't have it lol sorry don't know when we'll get it"
EB had given me a release date of the 27th March but I went in browsing 2 days ago saw it and the dude recommended it to me so I was happy to buy from there. First game I've played in what feels like months, the Wii wasn't even hooked up and I'm loving it, I just beat Letz Shake... lol I quite liked this mission and the boss cutscene. Great game all the technical flaws wash right over me, they don't bother me at all and I love the stylized graphics as well as the art direction in general and acting.
The biggest thing for me so far is now that I'm quite well acquainted with the town it's starting to look a bit bland, I still enjoy looking through rubbish bins and for lovikov balls around but I keep looking around and thinking of the potential of what could've been. I hope the sales for NMH keeps on keeping on so maybe they can justify creating a sequel and sinking some decent $'s into it so they have a more polished and incredible game coz I think even though this is my favourite game so far this year it has potential for so much more and I'd love to see that happen.
Also, I started on 'Mild' difficulty and I'm quite enjoying the challenge, the boss fights are actually hard and it's been a while since I've died so much in a game and I have the Australian version of the game so I get the black ash/disintegrate deaths with coins everywhere which I don't really mind but I kinda want the blood now not just for pointless brutality but I think the contrast of rich red around some of the places looks good lol, I still quite enjoy how the coins go everywhere when I kill someone though.
EB had given me a release date of the 27th March but I went in browsing 2 days ago saw it and the dude recommended it to me so I was happy to buy from there. First game I've played in what feels like months, the Wii wasn't even hooked up and I'm loving it, I just beat Letz Shake... lol I quite liked this mission and the boss cutscene. Great game all the technical flaws wash right over me, they don't bother me at all and I love the stylized graphics as well as the art direction in general and acting.
The biggest thing for me so far is now that I'm quite well acquainted with the town it's starting to look a bit bland, I still enjoy looking through rubbish bins and for lovikov balls around but I keep looking around and thinking of the potential of what could've been. I hope the sales for NMH keeps on keeping on so maybe they can justify creating a sequel and sinking some decent $'s into it so they have a more polished and incredible game coz I think even though this is my favourite game so far this year it has potential for so much more and I'd love to see that happen.
Also, I started on 'Mild' difficulty and I'm quite enjoying the challenge, the boss fights are actually hard and it's been a while since I've died so much in a game and I have the Australian version of the game so I get the black ash/disintegrate deaths with coins everywhere which I don't really mind but I kinda want the blood now not just for pointless brutality but I think the contrast of rich red around some of the places looks good lol, I still quite enjoy how the coins go everywhere when I kill someone though.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Another thing I did love about the game was the pacing.
It was brilliantly plotted out.
The more "money" gathering you had to do before the mission, the smaller the actual "pre-boss" zone appeared to be. It just didn't get stale.
For example, I see people talking about rank 5. It's technically about half way through the ranking missions, but notice how quick it is and then how different 4-1 gets. You think by rank 5 you have nailed the whole 'earn money by doing jobs, do a large walking zone with mindless killing, fight a boss, repeat' - just as this starts to settle in and your mind thinks 'well this is sweet, but i have to do this FIVE more times?' things get completely mixed up. Nothing really is pushed on you too much.
I mean, you can make an argument that the job part is overtly repetitive and you wouldn't be wrong, but to me doing that contrasts the actual journey of the rest of the game and makes it stand out even more brilliantly. The game plays you as much as you play it.
It was brilliantly plotted out.
The more "money" gathering you had to do before the mission, the smaller the actual "pre-boss" zone appeared to be. It just didn't get stale.
For example, I see people talking about rank 5. It's technically about half way through the ranking missions, but notice how quick it is and then how different 4-1 gets. You think by rank 5 you have nailed the whole 'earn money by doing jobs, do a large walking zone with mindless killing, fight a boss, repeat' - just as this starts to settle in and your mind thinks 'well this is sweet, but i have to do this FIVE more times?' things get completely mixed up. Nothing really is pushed on you too much.
I mean, you can make an argument that the job part is overtly repetitive and you wouldn't be wrong, but to me doing that contrasts the actual journey of the rest of the game and makes it stand out even more brilliantly. The game plays you as much as you play it.
Second playtrough here.
I love it. I have the European version and to be realy honest the black spray instead of blood works for me. But the game is amazing. After the rank 6 fight I thought the game was beginning to get predictable but indeed the rank 5 match is weird.
The fight against
was pretty damn cool. And the clothes in No More Heroes are just top notch. A dutch shirt and one of my favourites the shirt "keine helden mehr". This game delivers. And even my friends were impressed!
I love it. I have the European version and to be realy honest the black spray instead of blood works for me. But the game is amazing. After the rank 6 fight I thought the game was beginning to get predictable but indeed the rank 5 match is weird.
Sure, it was a pure WTF moment but Henry is awesome. Travis, Irish accent: "Well Henry, you took my kill, YOU NAUGHTY BOY" and the way he spaces out against Sylvia :lol
The fight against
Bad Girl
I'm saving right now just in front of the rank 4 boss fight but I gotta say that was pretty awesome just before 
but something that's been annoying me for the last couple of ranks are the phone calls, I was really impressed by it at first but now the dialogue is getting pretty predictable; "you're about to fight, lose you go to hell, garden of madness, hope u go to the toilet etc. etc." :\
but something that's been annoying me for the last couple of ranks are the phone calls, I was really impressed by it at first but now the dialogue is getting pretty predictable; "you're about to fight, lose you go to hell, garden of madness, hope u go to the toilet etc. etc." :\cant understand the complaints about the jobbing...
the normal job missions are boring but the assassination assignments are great..
and with that kill 100 enemies assignment raking in money ain't hard anymore..
but when i got it the first time I was like
WTF...
the normal job missions are boring but the assassination assignments are great..
and with that kill 100 enemies assignment raking in money ain't hard anymore..
same with meSoule said:I'm saving right now just in front of the rank 4 boss fight but I gotta say that was pretty awesome just before
but when i got it the first time I was like
WTF...
Soule said:I'm saving right now just in front of the rank 4 boss fight but I gotta say that was pretty awesome just before
Huh? But the rank 4 fight was definitely a change of pace with what she said.
She didn't even believe you would die!
like when your chance of losing is over 1000%
well, think of it like a sports pep-talk. you can only hear so many before you've heard them all. theres always some good tidbit in there anyway, for story or entertainment.Soule said:I'm saving right now just in front of the rank 4 boss fight but I gotta say that was pretty awesome just before
ok i got to rank 2 and i got two question
1) does the game ends after reaching rank 1?
2) why the tsubaki iii is worse than the tsubaki ii? it does less damage and feel definetely slower!
also
1) does the game ends after reaching rank 1?
2) why the tsubaki iii is worse than the tsubaki ii? it does less damage and feel definetely slower!
also
isn't it a little illogical that the man can survive explosive bullet,laser beams and grenades but then almost die with some baseball bat hits?
1) More or less. You'll see. There's also a New Game+ option and a new difficulty setting if you're worried about replay value.Teasel said:
2) I'd say it's faster. It also has a longer combo. Its Low charge move is also one of the safest attacks in the game.
also
It's a videogame, duh.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
You're at Rank 2 and are still questioning logic in this game's universe? Buh?Teasel said:
I'd say mark III kills more enemies with the loaded finisher. In the garage free fight I killed every enemy with just one hit.
Finisher moves with mark III also deal damage to really far directly where you hit. You can see distant enemies dropping dead when slashing some punks before you. I used this tactic in the
Rank 1 left. I'm gonna finish it today!
Is it the last saber?
Finisher moves with mark III also deal damage to really far directly where you hit. You can see distant enemies dropping dead when slashing some punks before you. I used this tactic in the
Bad Girl fight, by slashing her S&M minions.
Rank 1 left. I'm gonna finish it today!
I finished the game up about 3 minutes ago. Kinda felt the ending was kind of a copout.
The "real" ending was kinda weird but I'd def. pick up the sequel if Suda fixes up a few things in the game. over-world map seemed kinda rushed and empty. having to travel back and forth to pick up jobs... once you unlock a job and pick it up at the employment place, the node should just stay on the map instead of traveling all the time. The artistic style was great, however it made things appear really dark at times to the point where it didn't really matter what clothing travis was wearing since it was mostly blacked out by super shadows.
The assassination missions for money could of been a little more interesting. They could of been on the over world map, maybe include a stalking mission or a theft mission or something.
Hopefully, with the engine already up and running, Suda will have more time to refine the second one.
Henry was probably one of the most challenging bosses I've faced in a while.
The assassination missions for money could of been a little more interesting. They could of been on the over world map, maybe include a stalking mission or a theft mission or something.
Hopefully, with the engine already up and running, Suda will have more time to refine the second one.
Those both sound suspiciously like concepts that would turn into completely unwelcome stealth gameplay.MoogPaul said:
Granted, I'm not all the way through the game yet so I don't know if there are stealth sections later on, but I am hoping against hope that it doesn't happen.
ehy i finished it a few minutes ago too! (with the true ending by the way)
my opinion about the game hasn't changed too much... the last 3 boss were annoying,and mostly consisted of "block,block,ok now the boss is open,attack 2 times,block,block" repeat
the ending was stupid
it's a decent game but it's no god hand
my opinion about the game hasn't changed too much... the last 3 boss were annoying,and mostly consisted of "block,block,ok now the boss is open,attack 2 times,block,block" repeat
the ending was stupid
the good kind of stupid,i hadn't laughed so much for quite a while,the fast forward part was awesome...
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
So, I'm in the last fight. I need help.
I'm fighting Jeane and I can barely get a hit on her. As soon as I swing against her she just dodges while in place over and over again. On top of that she loves knocking me down and then do it again the second I get up again. HILFE! And what the heck did they say during that fast forward thing?
ItsInMyVeins said:So, I'm in the last fight. I need help.
I'm fighting Jeane and I can barely get a hit on her. As soon as I swing against her she just dodges while in place over and over again. On top of that she loves knocking me down and then do it again the second I get up again. HILFE! And what the heck did they say during that fast forward thing?
only hit her at the end of her "combo", roll around alot, and DON'T try to grapple her.
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
Threi said:
Dude, I'm trying to, but at soon as her combo's out and I attack she just moves her upper body and I miss -- I almost never manage to get in those hits right after evading :/
viewtifulsub
Member
If you have the Tsubaki Mk3 and the Energy Saving upgrade, just spam the low-stance charged attack for an easy win
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
sub_zer0:
I have the MkIII but no upgrade (I've bought all the ones before, but none since I got that one). Anyhoo, the problem was that I never got any hits in on her -- she constantely dodged everything. But I managed to kick her ass anyways, but it tooks some damn time.
Now I'm fighting Henry. Wow, does that suck ass or what? I had his life down to nothing and he does some instant kill attack on me. Fun times!
Now I'm fighting Henry. Wow, does that suck ass or what? I had his life down to nothing and he does some instant kill attack on me. Fun times!
Awesome game, combat never got old. Though the overworld suked bad...rather have had a menu system.
Jeane's cut scene spolier is pretty neat http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0SsGqc3rZ1s.
Now Travis is a real videogame bad bass, not like those lame fuckers from Gears of War or MGS games.
Jeane's cut scene spolier is pretty neat http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0SsGqc3rZ1s.
Now Travis is a real videogame bad bass, not like those lame fuckers from Gears of War or MGS games.
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
Oh, just got the real ending, kinda tough fight there but I found it easier than the one against
anyways :O
Jeane
ItsInMyVeins said:
I share the same opinion on this. for
Jeane
At least if you have attack combo upgrades she'll be auto-stunned and yes, you should god damn use your fight specific wrestling move on her. Don't worry about it. It's awesome. Well, until the end, but you already know about that, right?
As for the real ending fight, after Shinobu and
Jeane
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
Proven said:
What upgrade? I think I've bought and trained as much as I can, and she very rarely got stunned for me? I didn't use any wrestling moves since she grabbed me all the time. Regarding the ending of the fight;
I thought I was a goner and got struck by a instant kill attack just when she was about to drop. Damn I was satisfied when I realized that wasn't the case
Like I said; the "real ending"-fight was less of a bitch than both Shinobu and
Jeane
One story question though:
What happened to Sylvia? You see her with some kid in the end, but that's about it. Nothing more?
grr I just beat the game yesterday and stupidly saved over the clear file so I can't get back to Santa Destroy to see the real ending.
Great game, combat got a bit frustrating at times and damn those free missions with 1 hit damage, I could never do them. I'm also annoyed with the no retry option for missions, but I'm sure that's come up in the thread many times. I especially loved the customization options though (weapons/clothes). There shouldve been an option for shoes and hair too :lol
Anyway I'm already on my second play through and just tried to beat Shinobu, who kicked by ass and more. I'm gonna have to work on a new strategy.
Great game, combat got a bit frustrating at times and damn those free missions with 1 hit damage, I could never do them. I'm also annoyed with the no retry option for missions, but I'm sure that's come up in the thread many times. I especially loved the customization options though (weapons/clothes). There shouldve been an option for shoes and hair too :lol
Anyway I'm already on my second play through and just tried to beat Shinobu, who kicked by ass and more. I'm gonna have to work on a new strategy.
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
demonix69 said:
Yeah, that was very tedious. I think they should have just skipped the whole free roaming part and gone with a map where you simply chose venue or something.
So I just finished both endings and lol I completely forgot about
. Last couple of fights were pretty hard and overall the back half of the game really had me hooked, but the last ranked battle and ending especially, loved every second of it.
So does anyone know how the sales are world wide? I really hope it's gone well enough to justify a sequel hopefully with a bit more polish.
Henry
So does anyone know how the sales are world wide? I really hope it's gone well enough to justify a sequel hopefully with a bit more polish.
Yeah at first I thought it was pretty cool, but it's really not interactive enough and too barren.ItsInMyVeins said:
Jeane