Mihael Mello Keehl
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They a good color, black/middle eastern/some asian people come in many shades
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Inkling Boy & Girl are the first black non-Mii characters in Mario Kart
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Alcotholic
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Who is that?
Joe Shlabotnik
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lol at the brave edits
Wet Bloodfart
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Because it's picking characters to use from Nintendo's Mario line, and recently Nintendo's brands in general.
Meh, this isn't really an argument worth getting into. I'm happy that this is happening and I understand its importance for PoC. It's ultimately a good thing despite my initial lack of understanding.
Yeah, it could pass for a lot of different things. It's nice to see.
Smiles and Cries
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I doubt it, I like Zelda's fantasy world any of the Champions could have a good spinoff IMO
I loved seeing more darker skin representation in Breath of the Wild
I don't think they need a main they just need to remember to add diversity
I don't want to spend 10 IRL hours on an island to tan my Skin in Animal Crossing again
Linkstrikesback
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Like...ninjis? Maybe. And even then...
That's not going to happen. You can make an argument for Urbosa, I guess, but they'd go for Zelda and Ganondorf long before any of the (other) Gerudos. And I don't see them adding more characters than that from Zelda to mario kart any time soon. I mean, I guess Ganondorf should be the same skin colour as the other gerudos by definition if all you want is someone with that skin tone?
James Scott
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It's from Ever Oasis. He's the Protagonist
C.Olimar788
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Every kid deserves to look at a game like Mario Kart and say "hey, that person is like me!" I don't understand what is so radical about wanting people to feel included i popular franchises.
It just reminds me how much of a shame I think it is that Arms is halfassing it so hard. They so very clearly want to hit that Overwatch-esque cast of quirky characters but it just falls so flat in comparison when its a cavalcade of white-slash-Japanese characters like every other Japanese franchise under the sun.
It just reminds me how much of a shame I think it is that Arms is halfassing it so hard. They so very clearly want to hit that Overwatch-esque cast of quirky characters but it just falls so flat in comparison when its a cavalcade of white-slash-Japanese characters like every other Japanese franchise under the sun.
Vital Tundra
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Didn't HHD allow you to automatically choose your skin tone? I'm guessing the next AC will do away with the 1 skin tone thing in favor of what HHD brought to the table.
Man, that bullshit was infuriating. I almost forgot about that shit
Dark Ninja
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Im glad the transition to Nintendo Kart is continuing.
Black people cant wear coats now?
evilromero
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I never gave it much thought before but what do the Boos look like when they're alive? There are a bunch of dead things in Mushroom Kingdom apparently.
Garrett Hawke
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Baron von Loathsome
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Why not both?
Smiles and Cries
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Last AC I played was New Leaf and I had to go to the beach to tan
edit: did not play HHD
blitzwolf215
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People shouldn't try and downplay this, it may not be a big deal to you but for some it's just nice to have some diversity that represents you. I like it when Hispanic characters are introduced in various media. It great that people can take joy in this.
Its great that Nintendo shows diversity in one of their newest biggest ip, Splatoon 2 has a dark female inkling on front of the box.
Its great that Nintendo shows diversity in one of their newest biggest ip, Splatoon 2 has a dark female inkling on front of the box.
Garrett Hawke
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Happy Home Designer. There was also the Mii mask workaround but I really hope ACSwitch just straight up lets you choose.
What if there's nothing underneath his coat? 🤔
I was watching the recent Nintendo Direct with a good friend, and when Minmin was revealed, he immediately stated that her image was racist. Said friend is black, and I was trying to tell him that Nintendo was most likely poking fun at their own/Asian culture.
But then again...a black man with a chicken themed profile would definitely send me over the edge. So an Asian with a ramen noodle aesthetic? A thin line indeed...
hurricanes
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Don't click the thread if a black inkling bother you that much.
And if you are serious, do remember that Mario is a pre-defined stereotypical character.
The characters in Arms are supposed to be corporate sponsored mascot fighters (according to the bios) with the exception of Mechanica (who made her suit herself rather than being corporate sponsored).
Spring Man reps a gym, Ribbon Girl Reps as a record label, Min Min reps as noodle shop.
Doubt they'd do that to the black character since it would be, in addition to racist, stupid to repeat a theme for 2 characters (restaurant, or for that matter, doubt they would make them, like, rap based since Ribbon Girl has record label covered ), that said, let's hope she is not repping something ignorant.
Triforce141
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I have no idea what it's like to live in Japan, but I am imagining that cultural diversity is not as big of a topic on the mind as as it is in America.
But, yeah, you're right. Nintendo should be tailoring their games for their audience.
Really living up to your username.
Being a race other than white isn't a "statement."
freethoughtbubble
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I think it's inevitable and I can't wait. If Splatoon truly becomes one of their staple franchises, I would love it if they positioned the black and brown inklings as the defaults in the cover art and promotional materials. It would send a subtle but powerful statement.
Acerac
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I'm rather surprised there is so much apathy. It is long overdue, granted, but it's really nice to see it happen.
Garnox
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Alright, I usually don't engage in these kind of discussions because I don't have a horse in this race, but for me personally, when it comes to games like MK I didn't think inclusion was that big of deal.
Before you crucify for me saying (and having my own opinion thank you) such things, immersive games like say Mass Effect would benefit more from having diversity and inclusion because you role play as the character that you identify with. Which they do a good job of. In a game like MK, I'm racing around a track throwing turtle shells at people. I can care less if I'm playing as a princess, plumber, dinosaur, or a person of different ethnicity than me.
A good case I've seen stated is younger generations will get to chose a avatar that they feel represents them. That's cool because when I was younger it WAS predominantly white characters (Link, Mega Man, Seamus, Mario, Cloud, Squall) and I don't know what it's like being person of different race/ethnicity, but I feel kids with their innocence won't really care either. They just see "Cool a dinosaur!" or "A princess!"
So if it means that much for you to have that kind of inclusivity in this kind of game, more power to you. For this guy, it isn't a requirement because of the nature of this game. Hence the "Ok."... not trying to rain on anyone's parade, just trying to add some substance to my drive by comment.
Piantissimo (a human in a pianta costume) from Mario Sunshine is pretty dark skinned, but it's more like a heavy tan than straight up black.
Smiles and Cries
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Yeah I am just saying if Minmin and the whole food/race theme is accepted as not racist what is to stop them from a KFC Bowl, they could just point to Minmin and say this is just the black version of Minmin. I think being black just makes us more sensitive to these things because we see ourselves in that position and it does not feel good.
Minmin is cute IMO but yeah it is touching a line, you can call it either way
foxuzamaki
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BOTW has a whole bunch of hylians of all types of skin color, gender, size and age. And then there's also the gerudo. Its pretty great
blitzwolf215
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uncredited male
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Mario brother.
This. It is cool and i am glad for it but i really don't care and i don't think it a big deal.
Wet Bloodfart
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That's not at all what I was saying, and I apologize. My initial comment was that I found it strange that a franchise like Mario Kart was being heralded for this when you choose from so many odd zany characters that have no connection to the real world outside a highly stereotypical depiction of an Italian.
Moreso than anything, it's good that Nintendo is addressing adding PoC to their other franchises. It's a mark of progress that is truly appreciated. But it being a milestone in Mario Kart to me just isn't groundbreaking.
edit: ultimately what Garnox is saying
So in summary you're saying "I'm white so this doesn't benefit me," right? I mean you're not trying to rain on everyone's parade and yet you are.
sixteen-bit
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Smash Bros. next pls.
They're not making fun of their own culture. Minmin's design draws strongly from Chinese motifs(not Japanese).
Wet Bloodfart
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That's quite a way to extrapolate a post.
What did he mean by this?
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Inkling kind have sounds like a racial slur.
So basically you're white and don't give a fuck. Why even comment
Vital Tundra
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God damn it, man!
ElBoxyBrown
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Am I right to say this discussion is mainly about skin tones?
I meant like the Asian culture as a whole. Not specific to Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc. But I digress. Point still stands, tbh.
Unreal Champ
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Ignorant op is full of ignorance.
Well it is both I guess. My post is contradictory since the skintones are part of their design. Mario Kart just seems like a bizarre game to look at with a representation agenda.
Smiles and Cries
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there are always ways to explain these things, it does not always have to be planned racism for it to be racist
I think the main reasons we don't get more people of color in Nintendo games is because there are so many ways you can do race diversity wrong.
stereotypes is one of them. It is ideal for an asian to run a Noodle Shop sure but seriously even with the sponsored excuse they can still get some backlash if the black character is Sponsored by Chicken Hut
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