This one looks dope.
Daaamn.
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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs
- Thread starter Reizo Ryuu
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UcchedavÄda
Member
Yes, Zenny was pulled before the in-game store was even added.
I don't think that Zenny ever got put on sale outside of those versions of the game that you mention.
sixteen-bit
Member
Capcom here hella confident with that Zenny shit. When reality set in about CFN being crap they decided to sell premium skins directly through the platform holder's marketplace.
sixteen-bit
Member
Hitboxes really are super fucked up in Dark Souls.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
Hey, that's easier to get, and not as good as her stocking-less color, which so far only one persond in the world can use:
Chun without stockings? Never knew that existed. Nice
Im not sure what you mean by this? I just want the system SF4 had. Im sure I could search via connection quality there.
I agree with you about the flags though. Being able to search via that, would be a huge benefit for me.
sixteen-bit
Member
They aren't much better in old Monster Hunter games:
Lol, what's this from? is there a full animation to go with it?
Marvel
could never
I believe if I'm not mistaken, that alt also has red glowing eyes.
UcchedavÄda
Member
No, you could not search for ranked matches by connection quality in SFIV. You could filter by region ("same" or "any"), but that is limited to whatever country the game decides you live in, so anyone outside of the US and Japan probably left it on "any".
You could possibly specify a connection quality when using fight request, but that's the no different than SFV.
Omnistalgic
Member
but everyone is like that though? I get defense needs to be buffed, but GTFO here with this SF4 is better nonsense, it just wasn't. You have to deal with too many systems in that game (on top of execution) instead of just playing the player.
Yes, Urien has derp, Laura is derp, Balrog's comebacks are cray etc...but when you develop enough of a defense to stop the autopilot tactics SFV more easily becomes a game about reads and outwitting your opponent, spacing and whiff punishing. Isn't that what a good fighting game is supposed to be?
I honestly think some of y'all don't really play anymore just complain about bad experiences over and over.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
You're right, I brain farted. Connection quality does show up (sometimes, eventually) on the BL list page. They should let you search by that, but I'm assuming they don't because it must be an intensive process to ping everyone even though other games do it fine.
no
it's about stupid long combos you practice for hours alone
street fighter is a single player game
Omnistalgic
Member
lol I don't miss that crap at all. And there's a few characters like Chun that can do crazy long combos.
Opinions and such so whatever. But SFV is a superior game in almost every way, much better off nearing the 2 year mark than SF4 was, and I think with a defense buff and a little more tweaking to each character options (second CA that covers a weakness for example,) the game will match SF3 in quality.
lol
RagingAvatar
Member
Whoops! Spelt my own CFN userid wrong! lol
Turbanator
Member
I've been saying for a while that I want Capcom to go all out and release genderbent costumes for every single character, with a new voice and name and everything. Like Ryu to Ryuko, Kenneth to Kendra, Guile to Jillian, Chun to Chang, etc.
Cammy and Bipson should just be swapped. Cammy in her Dictator alt from SFIV and Bipson in the leotard.
Cammy and Bipson should just be swapped. Cammy in her Dictator alt from SFIV and Bipson in the leotard.
sixteen-bit
Member
some of Seth's combos felt like a single player game lol
Boogalogist
Member
They aren't much better in old Monster Hunter games:
LOL..I love this....DAT Plesioth hip check!
Marvel
could never
Is this why the lack of single player stuff really hurt SFV! :O
Zombegoast
Member
Yes GOOD fighting games like Tekken 7 where a poorly spaced jab would lead to a launcher.
One of the many problems with SFV is the hit/hurtbox. Jab AA, jumps ins etc
Moves like these on Birdie and other character do not have hurtboxes play all the way through the recovery and start up like in SF4.
Imagine if Zangief Cr.Jab having a hurtbox that plays all the way through the move, he wouldn't be abusing this shit and some how trade with fireballs.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
Ucchedavāda;244337901 said:
Im only talking about SF4 Battle Lounges/lobbies. I barely played ranked in SF4 and cant remember any of those settings.
All we can do is hope it gets better. The current search options are probably ok for larger player bases like in Europe, the US and Japan, but its a headache for those of us in smaller countries.
You might not have to deal with a lot of systems in V but the 3 dominate systems (fast dashes, CC buttons, and V trigger comebacks) means you're playing around getting absolutely FUCKED by one of those in a blink of an eye instead of playing the player.
Shit, most of the time someone is in v trigger it feels like I'm playing against a fucking mega man boss instead of a human being. Dumb shit like birdie in v trigger or Bison. That's playing the player? I fucking hate sitting a full screen away trying to bait out bull head or slide BLOCKED into v trigger. Shit is on some next level stupid and I absolutely don't feel like I'm playing the player.
And the knowledge of defense/spacing needed in SFV to negate derp of a character and to play the person controlling them is a very high level IMO. So I don't think it "easily" becomes a game about reads or whiff punishing. Not at all.
UcchedavÄda
Member
Endless battle (lounges) had the same filters as ranked in SFIV, except that you could also filter by edition select in later versions.
Ucchedavāda;244322637 said:
They do make male figures....they just happen to be women though
UcchedavÄda
Member
This is confusing! You want to be able to whiff punish a jab with a st.HK?! Also, most normals with 10 frames or more start up are very whiff punishable in SFV too, not sure where are you going with the Tekken comparison!
killu4what
Member
Karin actually misses Birdies arm. If it was the other way around he would use the same exactly video and complain about the hitboxes not matching up.
s.Hk isn't good enough. Not only do I want it to be an amazing, safe poke that leads to super damaging combos on CH, now I want to be able to punish whiffed jabs with it.
That's what the game needs.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
Sf5 decapre statue when?
I should prolly just model her myself and just 3d print it.
Why haven't I done this yet...
I should prolly just model her myself and just 3d print it.
Why haven't I done this yet...
ColonialHawk
Member
Karin st.HK has 10 frames of startup + 2 active frames with Birdie having 10 frames of recovery on cr.LP.
If done sooner it would have hit, but Birdie was already recovered before the st.HK was even active.
If done sooner it would have hit, but Birdie was already recovered before the st.HK was even active.
Zombegoast
Member
I want to punish whiff normals without solely on reading and not be 2 frames late because a hurtbox doesn't play all the way through.
So yes.
I bring up Tekken because spacing is very important and whiffing a small button is enough to lose a match.
Birdie was still in recovery, look at the number in the center left.
Top one tbh.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
That was my point, though. I'm in North America and the entire list of lounges has maybe a couple of local flags and the odds of those being a 2 person lobby with a spot available ranked Gold - Super Gold are vanishingly small. I could always set up a lobby myself, but I'm not playing SF to fucking sit around waiting (cue lols from people who have had matchmaking problems since launch).
Had an encounter with a FANG who kept spamming Back+HP and nothing else.
Was that a bot?
the bot is farming XP
we say bot but it is probably a turbo controller taped over
Birdie in particular is gross by how far apart his hitbox are from the model
crouched Birdie should have a bigger hitbox, or Birdie should crouch more
UcchedavÄda
Member
The same tech that people used to get into the beta.
Omnistalgic
Member
i agree for the most part, but you are talking about a specific character. There's very different match ups here. My favorites as a Ken player, all these I generally feel like I'm playing the player. Yep even Urien, so many scramble to pop their trigger they end up making stupid mistakes.
Vs. Ryu
Vs. Gief
Vs. Chun
Vs. Gule
Vs. Kolin
Vs. Urien
Least favorite in no particular order
Vs. Laura
Vs. Karin
Vs. Birdie
Vs. Cammy
Vs. Sim (tho this is due to online tbh
Vs. Rog (Same as Sim, match is harder online)
Everyone else is vanilla, to me. Even Necali, just needs a tone down on that stupid dash and shouldn't have an endless trigger. But I really feel a few tweaks and a lot of the steamroll stuff goes away. Like it's very easy to make Laura trash, same as Rog, guess that's why they get slight tweaks instead of drastic changes. I know it first hand too. Give my Ken a 3 frame jab, and I think he goes straight to top tier, no b/s. balancing a 2D fighter is tough.
Loving experimenting with this V-Trigger, trying out stuffing a quick rise.
I'm probably lttp with EX V-Trigger Inferno, but I didn't know you could do that lol. I really enjoy learning.
That's dirty.
ColonialHawk
Member
The active frames on the st.HK happened at about ~3-4 frames in Birdie's recovery. It seems that the hurtbox for the cr.LP stops existing at ~8-10.
Karin's hurtbox for st.HK disappears just as fast and her hurtbox retracts far enough back to not be punished by birdies jab (even though it wouldn't hit do to its range)
To me it just seems the timing was off for the st.HK to hit the recovering cr.LP.
But it seems to me what you are asking for is the hurtbox to be constant on the cr.LP/st.HK/whatever until its recovery has reached 0?
Also Zangief's cr.LP has 6 frames of recovery, you wouldnt be able to punish that with st.HK even the hurtbox was constant throughout the move.
The hell.Loving experimenting with this V-Trigger, trying out stuffing a quick rise.
I'm probably lttp with EX V-Trigger Inferno, but I didn't know you could do that lol. I really enjoy learning.
I didn't know that worked.
Marvel
could never
Yeah lol
Me either lol
I won't lie, getting that EX inferno to hit the quickrise was tricky, took more than a few attempts to get the delay just right bc most of the time it whiffs as I suck. This is why I love fighters, experimentation is like a damn puzzle.
sixteen-bit
Member
Happy Abigail eve.