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bomblord1 · Nov 30, 2016

I don't know if this is a pricing error or what. Dell was just selling the i3 variant of this Black Friday for $299 and it sold out almost instantly.

This is the Steam OS version but installing windows should be trivial.

http://www.gamestop.com/pc/consoles/alienware-steam-machine-i7-1tb/121863

Intel Core i7 - 4765T Quad Core
nVidia GeForce GTX GPU w/2GB GDDR5
8GB DDR3
1TB 7200RPM HDD
2x2 802.11 Wireless Card
Steam Controller

Keep in mind this is the 4th gen iseries variant with a GPU slightly above the 750ti. It should moderately outperform both the PS4 and Xbox One in any cross platform games. It would make a great HTPC or Media Center Box.

Dabanton · Nov 30, 2016

Bah, ships to US addresses only.

CopperPuppy · Nov 30, 2016

Yeah, this is a super good deal.

LostMyNarbles · Nov 30, 2016

This is their Black Friday price. They probably kept it on sale since I have to imagine sales were not that hot.

Diablohead · Nov 30, 2016

I'd say that is worth it, guessing the gpu is a 950 if it's 2GB but that's still really good for such a box.

NeoFaff · Nov 30, 2016

Not in the US so can't get the deal but what's the actual GPU? Nvidia with 2gb ddr5 doesn't say much

deadlast · Nov 30, 2016

If I could add one of those external GPU things, I would be very tempted.

bomblord1 · Nov 30, 2016

Diablohead said:
I'd say that is worth it, guessing the gpu is a 950 if it's 2GB but that's still really good for such a box.

It's a custom GPU based on the 860M. It's real world performance is slightly above the 750ti.

Fracas · Nov 30, 2016

Not a terrible deal, but bear in mind that GPU is not very good at all.

SmartWaffles · Nov 30, 2016

You can't upgrade this thing right?

WhiskerFrisker · Nov 30, 2016

That gpu sounds incredibly underwhelming.

LostMyNarbles · Nov 30, 2016

SmartWaffles said:
You can't upgrade this thing right?

If it's the same as the older Alpha's you can change the hard-drive, RAM and CPU, but that's about it and you probably wouldn't find a need to change the CPU/RAM in this one.

Diablohead · Nov 30, 2016

bomblord1 said:
It's a custom GPU based on the 860M. It's real world performance is slightly above the 750ti.

sounds good enough to be a 1080p overwatch rig, so there's that.

bomblord1 · Nov 30, 2016

Diablohead said:
sounds good enough to be a 1080p overwatch rig, so there's that.

Should be pretty capable across the board at 1080p medium.

Krakn3Dfx · Nov 30, 2016

Looks like it runs GTAV at 1080p Very High in the 40-50fps range. With the 2GB VRAM limit, every big game that's come out in the last couple of years is going to be very YMMV, but for well optimized titles, they should at least be playable at 1080/30 on it. $375 should be the regular price for this though, $700+ normally is ridiculous.

deadlast · Nov 30, 2016

deadlast said:
If I could add one of those external GPU things, I would be very tempted.

This is what I was talking about

Not sure how these things work, but it could be helpful.
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/acce...8:901pdb6671:c&ven2=:&ven3=105103405962847392

drotahorror · Nov 30, 2016

bomblord1 said:
Keep in mind this is the 4th gen iseries variant with a GPU slightly above the 750ti. It should moderately outperform both the PS4 and Xbox One in any cross platform games. It would make a great HTPC or Media Center Box.

Has that ship kind of sailed though? Can a 750ti play Watch Dogs 2, Dishonored 2, Deus Ex MD, basically any new release this year at similar settings and framerate as a ps4? We used to see comparisons with a 750ti setup vs PS4/XB1 but I haven't seen one in a while from Digital Foundry or NXGamer.

bomblord1 · Nov 30, 2016

deadlast said:
This is what I was talking about

Not sure how these things work, but it could be helpful.
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/acce...8:901pdb6671:c&ven2=:&ven3=105103405962847392

As far as I'm aware this does not work on the Alpha.

drotahorror said:
Has that ship kind of sailed though? Can a 750ti play Watch Dogs 2, Dishonored 2, Deus Ex MD, basically any new release this year at similar settings and framerate as a ps4? We used to see comparisons with a 750ti setup vs PS4/XB1 but I haven't seen one in a while from Digital Foundry or NXGamer.

Well I mean the card hasn't become weaker.

TheYanger · Nov 30, 2016

drotahorror said:
Has that ship kind of sailed though? Can a 750ti play Watch Dogs 2, Dishonored 2, Deus Ex MD, basically any new release this year at similar settings and framerate as a ps4? We used to see comparisons with a 750ti setup vs PS4/XB1 but I haven't seen one in a while from Digital Foundry or NXGamer.

It's not like the pc hardware gets weaker compared to the static console setup. My old 750ti rig with a worse processor than this can absolutely play the same games better than either console (I own several games on both and only recently upgraded, trust me). You don't see those comparisons anymore because those aren't what people are buying anymore for PC gaming. If you've never been a PC gamer before and are happy with what current consoles can do but wouldn't mind an upgrade, this is a very solid deal.

AllGamer · Nov 30, 2016

Diablohead said:
sounds good enough to be a 1080p overwatch rig, so there's that.

A PS4 Slim can do that for $299

Kiru · Nov 30, 2016

bomblord1 said:
As far as I'm aware this does not work on the Alpha.

It does, only on the latest Alpha R2 tho.

Rellik · Nov 30, 2016

AllGamer said:
A PS4 Slim can do that for $299

But can it run MS Excel?

TheYanger · Nov 30, 2016

AllGamer said:
A PS4 Slim can do that for $299

It will also make your overwatch look like shit as per the left image

Meanwhile a this will run it at actual good settings at 60 easy.

Gestault · Nov 30, 2016

I absolutely despise vague product descriptions (re: the video card).

perfectsil · Nov 30, 2016

AllGamer said:
A PS4 Slim can do that for $299

Can't play Overwatch online tho for $299

MUnited83 · Nov 30, 2016

AllGamer said:
A PS4 Slim can do that for $299

With a worse looking, worse playing version, yes. With more money needed to actually play online too.

Fisty · Nov 30, 2016

Anybody know the power draw on this?

Lister · Nov 30, 2016

drotahorror said:
Has that ship kind of sailed though? Can a 750ti play Watch Dogs 2, Dishonored 2, Deus Ex MD, basically any new release this year at similar settings and framerate as a ps4? We used to see comparisons with a 750ti setup vs PS4/XB1 but I haven't seen one in a while from Digital Foundry or NXGamer.

Of course it can. Better than a PS4 in most cases.

bomblord1 · Nov 30, 2016

Gestault said:
I absolutely despise vague product descriptions (re: the video card).

It's a custom GPU so there really isn't an exact equivalent. What you are seeing is actually pretty specific.

jon bones · Nov 30, 2016

hardly seems worth it at all for those specs and the lack of upgradability

Lister · Nov 30, 2016

jon bones said:
hardly seems worth it at all for those specs and the lack of upgradability

The lack of upgradability is what kills it for me.

NOLA_Gaffer · Nov 30, 2016

Fuck, if I wasn't planning on picking up my Macbook Pro today I'd be all over this.

Goddamn.

Guess Who · Nov 30, 2016

I wish there were better discounts on the R2 version. Hesitant to spend as much as they want on one with only a GTX 960.

Stat Flow · Nov 30, 2016

How would this function as a PC? It seems like a pretty good deal for that too...?

scitek · Nov 30, 2016

drotahorror said:
Has that ship kind of sailed though? Can a 750ti play Watch Dogs 2, Dishonored 2, Deus Ex MD, basically any new release this year at similar settings and framerate as a ps4? We used to see comparisons with a 750ti setup vs PS4/XB1 but I haven't seen one in a while from Digital Foundry or NXGamer.

I've found my laptop with an 860m can play most games (including Gears of War 4, Deus Ex: MD) on high settings at 900p.

If you're not a stickler for image quality, that can still look pretty good on a 1080p TV.

Lister · Nov 30, 2016

TheYanger said:
It will also make your overwatch look like shit as per the left image

Meanwhile a this will run it at actual good settings at 60 easy.

Lol AF and IQ are horrendous.

Vex_ · Nov 30, 2016

jon bones said:
hardly seems worth it at all for those specs and the lack of upgradability

Yea. Still not worth it. Just save a bit more and buy your own components.

Lister · Nov 30, 2016

Stat Flow said:
How would this function as a PC? It seems like a pretty good deal for that too...?

Oh hell's yeah. That i7 is going to serve as a great computing platform, whether multitasking, video or photo editing, etc.

robotrock · Nov 30, 2016

TheYanger said:
It will also make your overwatch look like shit as per the left image

Meanwhile a this will run it at actual good settings at 60 easy.

I run Overwatch on a 750 and it recommends me to move the resolution slider to 67% out of 1080p, so I did. Runs great, probably looks just like that though.

Gotta test and see if native 1080p will still run the same

Why would you do that? · Nov 30, 2016

I recently bought the i3 500 GB one which Gamestop had for $220 or something like that. It has the same GPU but lesser RAM, CPU, and HDD (which can all be upgraded anyway).

Installing Windows on it is easy, it's just a normal PC with a normal BIOS, so yeah.

TheYanger · Nov 30, 2016

jon bones said:
hardly seems worth it at all for those specs and the lack of upgradability

The lack of upgradeability is the downside, but we're looking at better than console specs at console prices. If you don't have a gaming PC there are TONS and TONS of games you're missing out on. It's a good deal.

StereoVsn · Nov 30, 2016

Vex_ said:
Yea. Still not worth it. Just save a bit more and buy your own components.

It's a tiny PC at $375. If the size is not an issue, yeah, no point of this, but this is an absolutely a great price for a very small PC with a warranty that can do streaming, emulation, play most games at mid settings at 1080p, etc... just needs SSD love.

MiguelItUp · Nov 30, 2016

bomblord1 said:
It's a custom GPU so there really isn't an exact equivalent. What you are seeing is actually pretty specific.

Interesting. I feel like it'd be nice if there was some kind of quip referring to it being the equivalent of "this" or "that" particular GPU.

bomblord1 · Nov 30, 2016

MiguelItUp said:
Interesting. I feel like it'd be nice if there was some kind of quip referring to it being the equivalent of "this" or "that" particular GPU.

Best I've seen is reviewers saying it's slightly better than a 750ti.

MUnited83 · Nov 30, 2016

Vex_ said:
Yea. Still not worth it. Just save a bit more and buy your own components.

It's very much worth it depending on the use and form factor you prefer. I wouldn't use this as my main PC gaming machine, but I'd use the hell out of it as a emulator and media center under my TV.

Lister · Nov 30, 2016

TheYanger said:
The lack of upgradeability is the downside, but we're looking at better than console specs at console prices. If you don't have a gaming PC there are TONS and TONS of games you're missing out on. It's a good deal.

I think this is the perspective from whihch this is relaly a steal.

If you're a console gamer that is looking at PC game threads and wonders when or will this game ever come to my console.

If you're a more casual gamer looking for a PC upgrade that has a tiny footprint and can run a lot of amazing PC games, better than a PS4.

If you have the disposable income and are looking for a PC gaming TV extender with some more muscle than somethign like a Steam link.

Those are good buy cases, IMHO.

You're getting a lot of hardware muscle for a very good price, no denying that. Perfect entry point for a lot of console only Gaffers who crave PC games.

xKilltheMx · Nov 30, 2016

If I wanted to get something comparable to this in laptop form how much would it run me?

Strider · Nov 30, 2016

Even if you wanna stick to buying AAA games on PS4/XB1 it's a capable PC at a great price that also gives you access to tons of games that will never make it to consoles... Seems pretty decent to me as an entry point to PC gaming.

Servbot24 · Nov 30, 2016

TheYanger said:
It will also make your overwatch look like shit as per the left image

Meanwhile a this will run it at actual good settings at 60 easy.

Is it just that yellow stripe that's blurry? Took me a while to stare at the image before I even noticed that.

bomblord1 · Nov 30, 2016

xKilltheMx said:
If I wanted to get something comparable to this in laptop form how much would it run me?

This is the cheapest I could find with a quick google search it's a 960M + 6th gen i5. The laptop is probably slightly better at least on the GPU and includes Windows.

$699.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834890015

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