The worst performer was probably The Crew, at least relative to investment (6 year development cycle), though they had pretty low expectations out of that one by the time it launched.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
NPD Sales Results For March 2017 [Up2: Year to date charts, platform specific charts]
The worst performer was probably The Crew, at least relative to investment (6 year development cycle), though they had pretty low expectations out of that one by the time it launched.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Yep they only thing that has happen to them is the game launch maybe hurts the legs of certain games.
That is EA not Ubi
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Titanfall 2 is by Ubisoft? I believe not
Obliterator
Member
Which even that though ended up successful. They've even noted it in investor calls. The Crew was still a profitable venture for them at the end of the day I believe.
It wasn't probably a huge success but also not a bomb. Which is pretty insane the run they are on
Even reusing assets there is no way they can push out a sequel that quickly, not that they would even want to.
It's Electronic Arts.
I misread his statement. I thought it meant in general.
The Crew sold well. It had 5 million players as of May 2016 (before it was GWG/free on Uplay, I had to check that), that's gotta be at least 2-3M sales.
hanspampel
Banned
not really sure about that.
at least not for HZD
UC4 also did not have amazing legs. and HZD is a sigle player game, too that attracts the same hardcore ps4 firstparty fanbase.
Zelda legs will depend on the switch performance obviously but in general Nintendo games sell well over time
but even without amazing legs (i consider games like Overwatch, NBA2K, BF1 etc. as good legs and GTAV and Minecraft as amazing legs), HZD sold very well.
and they likely recouped some more money with making the game free and sell expansions
if something like that is your worst performer, you're doing great
but out of the big 7 (4 biggest publisher and 3 traditional Platformholder) who is doing bad and struggling? none. not even Nintendo anymore
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Interested in seeing how South Park and the new Ac does for them. E3 will also be interesting as I'm sure a new service game will be announced.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Glad to see Andromeda didn't do terribly, maybe there is hope for future ME games.
I cannot believe we're still arguing about Zelda and Horizon sales, of all things. This "fight" won't stop that soon, I fear. Geeze.
Extremely glad to hear that's the case; I can't deny I miss the old charts and hardware numbers, but I'm still glad we now have far more infos than what we've had for a long time. Hopefully this can continue, if not improve.
Also, since Sam couldn't check this in time, I'll repost what I said during a discussion on getting more, smaller publishers involed in the digital tracking.
Extremely glad to hear that's the case; I can't deny I miss the old charts and hardware numbers, but I'm still glad we now have far more infos than what we've had for a long time. Hopefully this can continue, if not improve.
Also, since Sam couldn't check this in time, I'll repost what I said during a discussion on getting more, smaller publishers involed in the digital tracking.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
May be outta luck there honestly. South Park and assasins creed and watch dogs surely but I imagine moving forward more along the lines of the division,rainbow six,wildlands type games will be made.Ubi is killing it. Hope they don't abandon offline sp games.
Not either one was a bomb.
What about that snowboarding game?
They can redeem the game by continuing to support it and killer DLC. I am sure the game could move a decent amount of units over the holidays once it hist $20.
onemanasylum
Banned
Uc4 never had legs? Since when? Horizon like Uc4 is showing great legs in the PAL threads. It will continue to sell.
Salty drive by. He's gonna need time to heal.
That was only 80-100 staff for a few years, so I think that's less disappointing if it only moves a million units.
Obliterator
Member
Ubi is killing it. Hope they don't abandon offline sp games.
Nah I'm sure Ubi will still include single player in many of their biggest AAA games.
But, you are certainly gonna see them continuing to a more online / service based model. You just have to look at what The Division, Siege, and Wildlands has done for them. Online focused games are just the bread and butter in the current AAA market.
There is still plenty of room for single player experiences though so I don't think people should be worried about those leaving. Hell just this month look at Zelda, Horizon, and Mass Effect.
The new AC will be massive ! South Park is anyone's guess.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Exceeded expectations according to their conference call. Considering the low key marketing I believe them
Nightengale
Member
Ubi has been killing it this gen. They may not necessarily have the biggest wins, but they've been consistently winning with games that are only slightly less popular than the Overwatch & Destiny out there.
And they also have the quantity of games to boot. In terms of quality AAA stuff their release calendar are stuffed.
And they also have the quantity of games to boot. In terms of quality AAA stuff their release calendar are stuffed.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Yeah, they need to keep patching it and restore goodwill, which will set up future DLCs/a new game.
Obliterator
Member
Neither of those can be classified as a bomb at all. Both had soft launches, but Ubi has explicitly stated on both that they showed strong legs and are considered successful ventures.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I really looking forward to see what they going to do with the new AC.
hanspampel
Banned
this is an NPD Topic. Im talking about US (retail) sales
UC4 opening month (May 3 weeks of tracking) --> 828k | 879k including bundles
UC4 second month (June 5 weeks of tracking) --> between 160 - 190k including bundles, sadly no split given
UC4 third month (July 4 weeks of tracking) --> UC4 bundle less than 30k units
Top 20 games of 2016:
Overwatch first month sales: 411- 461k ( so half of UC4, but is the 7th best selling game of 2016, while UC4 did not even made the top 20)
not a perfect example tho, because Overwatch first month sales are retail only and the above ranking does at least include digital for Xbox Live and PSN, but it shows how games with great legs tend to do. Star Wars and Siege are also on the list. both 2015 games.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The new AC needs to revamp the combat. I dread going into combat in those games because its just so boring. Make it like Dark Souls where it's stamina based and has lots of different melee weapons. It probably wont happen because it has to be casual friendly but man they cannot keep this current system.
They also need to bring back the Naval combat. that was fantastic.
They also need to bring back the Naval combat. that was fantastic.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I'd estimate it's likely around 10% approx
Lies told LTD = 0
onemanasylum
Banned
At least Ubisoft is making new IP's, cannot say the same for EA's lineup or Activisions in comparison. I have not bought an EA game in years.
onemanasylum
Banned
this is an NPD Topic. Im talking about US (retail) sales
UC4 opening month (May 3 weeks of tracking) --> 828k | 879k including bundles
UC4 second month (June 5 weeks of tracking) --> between 160 - 190k including bundles, sadly no split given
UC4 third month (July 4 weeks of tracking) --> UC4 bundle less than 30k units
Top 20 games of 2016:
Overwatch first month sales: 411- 461k ( so half of UC4, but is the 7th best selling game of 2016, while UC4 did not even made the top 20)
Oh ok then, but just because it is an NPD thread doesn't mean the conversation won't reflect WW numbers as well. But yeah UC has been stronger in Europe then US I think.
I think things will be relatively fine for the franchise in the final telling. This is a strike, to be sure, but enough folks are enjoying the game despite the bad coverage. It's an unfortunate situation all-around, but there's a lot more "you know what, this is actually decent" going around as of this writing than I can remember seeing for a couple of other, more highly-scored BioWare titles.
Omnistalgic
Member
I concur. I'm not into pizza as much as I used to, but I don't want any pineapples on it.
Yuck
Given how Nintendo reported "nearly" 460,000 copies sold, that would mean around 414,000 at retail.
Also, John, asking you again since you didn't clarify earlier on this (I hope I don't sound too insistent)
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234377711&postcount=784
Were you referring to the former (digital shares) or the latter (JD2017)?
The real answer is NPD doesn't count bundled games.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Yea but horizon still outsold uc4, it's their biggest PS4 launch (not counting bundled units).
I'm impressed, even I didn't think it would do that well out the gate. They had a strong, well targeted campaign.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Ubisoft has made what like 7 new ips this gen already I'm probably missing some its insane
hanspampel
Banned
HZD will have better legs in Europe for sure. both standalone and also via bundling (HZD already has Ps4 bundles in Europe)
as i said, the audience is similar to UC and UC also sells better in Europe.
digital legs are also expected with price promotions and backlog sales
gundamkyoukai
Member
Very impressive and yeah like you said the marketing was on point .
Think this was the biggest marketing i have ever seen them do for a new IP or at least it seem that way .
Obliterator
Member
Without giving a number can you say if Wildlands is close or far off from 2 million?
Uplay isn't included in the NPD figure so I'm thinking if we add those in its probably pretty close. That should account for a couple 100k more units given the tie ratio we've had from say For Honors Beta numbers
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
You were asking about JD, the other question it's too much manual work for me haha
ethomaz
Banned
Digital rate on Switch will never grow up in my opinion because there is no incentive for a portable download ~10-20GB games with suck limited memory storage.
- If you download Zelda you already used all your storage... so you can't download another game.
- Even if you change for super expensive 128GB SD you are still limited for 5-8 games.
- It is a Portable so you won't be in places that allow download 10-20GB games.
Think about how limited the digital option is on Switch... now going retail you can have how many games you want (they are really small) and Switch to play them any time without need any download (it is what Portables do).
Switch will have even lower digital ratio than Wii U... it will probably be less than 10% forever.
That was a given right when Nintendo showed the system... there are even a lot of threads here talking how Nintendo probably killed digital on Switch.
onemanasylum
Banned
NPD doesn't track bundles games....so Uc4 not being in the top 20 is misleading.