The two-way conversation we have with our customers is a strength.

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CosmicQueso said:

Exactly.

They must have gathered feedback on all of the rumored things, but since they didn't publicly announce anything until E3, they could have easily dismissed that negativity on "well, those people don't understand our vision yet, and when they do they'll love it".

Obviously that didn't work out.

Look, they've reversed most policies, they're giving the majority what they seemingly want. Some of you seem to want them punished in some way, as though they should go out of business or be flogged or something because they made some choices months ago you didn't like. It's not like they ran over your dog.

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Dragonborn said:

The PS3 is on it's way to 100 million units life time. Sure, it's no PS2, but what console is (outside of DS, obviously)? I would hardly call it a failure.

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Dr. Kitty Muffins said:

I've owned a PS2, Gamecube, Xbox , 360 and PS3 (along with an assortment of handhelds). Out of all those machines, I considered myself primarily an Xbox gamer. They pushed me away and it will be awhile before I come back. I figure after about 2 years they will flush out who they need to from the management structure and things will get rolling again for them. That is what it will take for me: removing those associated with the DRM mess. Only then can I trust them fully. Once they drop the price around that time, I'll see about coming back.

But I don't see anything false from anyone. If it were false, Microsoft wouldn't have reacted the way they did. They certainly wouldn't be in the preorder mess they are in now over in Europe having to offer a free Fifa game just to keep their preorders.

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KillerTravis said:

Who is talking about sale numbers? I'm sure Windows Vista had respectable sales numbers as well when all was said and done, the thing is Sony lost millions of dollars for many years straight thanks to the PS3.

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"We built a platform for gamers."

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sublimit said:

Did you built it after that conference?

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Asked about those press-conference references to Microsoft's strategy, House had this to say: "We tend to stay away from over analysing what the competition is up to. But I'll characterise it this way: I was surprised … we constructed our E3 presentation because there was somehow a suspicion that the policies and approaches taken by our competition would create an industry trend in that direction. The reason we made such a strong statement at E3, and continue to do so, is because we were surprised by that.

"We thought, perhaps slightly naively, that the current model worked quite well and was consumer friendly – and our goal was to be consistent on that. But given the speculation that was happening there, it apparently became necessary for us to make a statement and say what our intent was."

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Phil Spencer said:

Other people will do and say what they're going to say. Fine. We're running our program. That's a strength of who we are.

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Nafai1123 said:

Customer: "Hey MS, we don't want all that DRM stuff and online requirements."

MS: "....."

Customer: "Hey MS! We don't want that shit!"

MS: "....but cloud?"

Customer: "Fuck this shit, I ain't buying your product."

MS: "Whoa whoa hold on! We'll remove it OK? See we listen to your concerns."

Customer: "...."

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Tiemen said:

Didn't see this posted;

Andrew House on the 'digs'.


EDIT; The Guardian article; PS4 boss Andrew House: Xbox One policies surprised us.

New-thread worthy?

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