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Knack new gameplay
- Thread starter eddfromtheriver
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Sapphire Dreams
Member
Looks interesting enough. I'll judge the game properly when I actually play it.
opticalmace
Member
Played this at e3 and was sorely disappointed. I love all the PS2/3 era platformers too
Really? Hm, too bad. Could you give us some more info? What didn't you like?
I really hope to be able to play it at Gamescom. Would be great, if they'd present a new build of the game with more fidelity and polish, especially with cool platforming section, that are challenging. If not, then I'll wait for a demo at launch and decide then, if it's worth to spend my money on it.
You can't blame me: how was the last time that a plataformer made by any Sony team was really great? It's not just the graphic, the pacing, the gameplay seems a little bit boring.
Ok, maybe I'm exagerating by comparing to PG games... it's really unfair.
But I think this game is just "ok" in every aspect, and I'm tired of "ok" games.
And I'm gonna explaint it why Knack seems, FROM THIS VIDEO, to be only an "ok" game to me:
He is slow and the stage is VERY big. See how many time Knack just walk doing NOTHING. And it seems that you don't even have a way to run faster, or make some cool jumps (like Z + A in SM64), you just have to walk, walk, walk, walk, in an endless and boring stage.
This can change, but its already july and the game will be released until the end of the year. Knack don't need to be intense like a PG game, but c'mon, I'm tired of walking in enormous worlds while doing nothing.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Damn, Cerny is a tall guy.
BruiserBear
Banned
It sure as hell doesn't look like it. Frankly, I'd be shocked if this has been in development for more than 9 months. This looks like a prototype to me.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I think that's why it's on my radar as well, like way on the edge of the radar but on it. I love shooters, they're my fav genre. Just wouldn't mind playing something like this in between headshots. I'll buy it for $25-30 once it bombs.
Grinchy
Banned
I might pick it up for $20 or less some day. Visually it's appealing, but I don't think I'm really the demographic they're going after. They say it's fun for kids and adults, but to me that's more of a Ratchet or Jak game that can do both. This doesn't seem to do combat or platforming as well as a Ratchet game (based on what has been shown so far). It seems very much built for kids who suck at games.
Flightmare
Member
Definitely picking it up when I buy a ps4
hydrophilic attack
Member
Looks alright.
I saw some off-screen footage before which looked kinda bad, but in the hands of a decently competent player it looks fun to me.
I saw some off-screen footage before which looked kinda bad, but in the hands of a decently competent player it looks fun to me.
ElfArmy177
Member
wasn't really impressed until the cave level, that looks amazing.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
I dont think this looks good at all :/ Looks boring, and the art style is awfull.
petethepanda
Member
I love me some Cerny, but dear lord does this game look bland.
Patrickv27
Member
Looks nice but gameplay looks boring. No matter how big or what Knack's appearance is, it doesn't really change the gameplay at all (well based on that demo).
It's a launch game. It could be the worst game ever made and you'd still have some people calling it decent.
BlastProcessing
Member
Sorry, I just had to tease you a bit
It was called Panopticon initially. Now it's unfortunately called Freedom Wars.
Pantioception sounds like anime panties + inception, which sounds kind of amazing ...
astroturfing
Member
ohh, he grows huge and starts throwing cars. i like that.
Why did I have to verify my age to watch this video?
Looks like it'll be fun, that was a nice little walkthrough. I was expecting more of a platformer and less of an action game which is kind of a bummer but it still maintains a lot of old school charm. Hopefully the claim that the enemy encounters become quite difficult is true.
Looks like it'll be fun, that was a nice little walkthrough. I was expecting more of a platformer and less of an action game which is kind of a bummer but it still maintains a lot of old school charm. Hopefully the claim that the enemy encounters become quite difficult is true.
SkylineRKR
Member
I somehow hold the idea that we won't see all of this at launch day. If it is (with a staggering 3 triple A FPS et al), then the launch is the most astonishing in Playstation history. It sounds too good to be true. I might end up with KZ, BF4, Driveclub and Watch Dogs in that case.
But anyway, I think the bland art direction, God of War inspired brawler gameplay, the slow mo dodge stuff and all isn't even all that appealing to kids. I wonder to whom this game is appealing at all.
IHaveCandy
Banned
I really don't like the GoW style camera in this game. I want to be able to freely look around in an action platformer.
I still have some hope for this. I NEED sto see some platforming. Another problem I have it the running/walking doesn't look grounded. It looks almost like he's floating over the ground. Also, his running animation continues when he reaches a wall which looks terrible. His jumping animation often looks very janky, too. Nevertheless, I'm still hopeful because I WANT this game to be good.
Wait I didn't see any of the PS4 UI in that? Where? Or are you talking about the game's UI?
Wait I didn't see any of the PS4 UI in that? Where? Or are you talking about the game's UI?
Opus Angelorum
Member
Honestly looks like nothing more than a very pretty hardware demonstration.
zeopower6
Member
Knowing that Cerny is the one behind the game, I think he'd know what he's talking about...
Anyway, the demo from what I saw was just to show off different Knacks (medium, big, Stealth, Ice) and not show off the ~varied gameplay~. I think we have to see more to say whether or not this is as 'worthless' as a lot of people are saying it is. I'm of the camp though that mainly likes Knack when he's little... when he gets big, he gets a bit ugly... like a fat Ganondorf or something with backhair relics. And that Samuel L. Jackson-y voice...
We never saw any of what's in the trailer in the demo, so I am sure that the demo is NOT representative of the whole game. However, I do get that a) the world seems bland and kinda boring... honestly, I think it's because it's sort of set in the 'real world' with Knack and the goblins being the only real ~unique~ aspects so far and b) the levels are extremely barren... though given the levels that they showed us, I kind of expect that.
I mean, doesn't this sequence kind of look platform-y to you?
According to an interview the game contains 90 minutes CGI. That's not cheap.
A more open-world-like game similar to SM64 or Banjo-Kazooie would have been freakin' awesome.
My biggest problem with the game so far is that it looks extremely linear.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
ACIT which was made by Insomniac (not first party, but exclusive) is one of the best games of the generation.
2- This is not purely a platformer.
Knack looks much creative than the generic new 3D Mario that Nintendo showed at E3.
Impeccable
Member
I think despite looking boring the game might have surprising depth, faith probably. I've got it pre-ordered against my better judgement ($39, Canada, rawr) because it does look "boring" and normally wait for NeoGAF impressions but the awesome futureshop deal and wanting this style of game has made it a get.
I honestly do think this is going to get turned into a franchise and I do think its' going to sell well out of the gates. There are like no other family games coming out near or at launch so by default it's the 'get' for that market.
I honestly do think this is going to get turned into a franchise and I do think its' going to sell well out of the gates. There are like no other family games coming out near or at launch so by default it's the 'get' for that market.
I'm fine with linear. Super Mario Galaxy was both linear AND had a fixed camera and that was one of the best 3D platformers ever. Those aren't my problems with the game.
Can Crusher
Banned
Man the visuals are just so underwhelming.
So Cerny claims that the city level that we've seen a whole lot of is about 45 minutes start to finish (says it at around the 10:40 minute mark) which is a reaallllyyy long level. I hope it can maintain player interest for that long, I feel like even if I broke it up into 3-5 different play sessions it could feel tiring.
Acit didn't have much platforming in it. As for the latter suggestion, are you mixing visual style with game design :b
zeopower6
Member
It must have a lot of different parts to it.
Arc Christelle
Member
Also I dislike that he's supposed to be made of so many pieces, but it doesn't do anything to change gameplay or enhance it. He does this constant 3 hit combo, (to make things worse, the goblins go down after 2 hits). The sidestep looks a mix of interesting and questionable, it honestly reminds me of Force Unleashed.
A lot of people are using the "family game" as an excuse but a lot of these games usually have to try to introduce some mechanics that require execution and thought, even at a basic level.
I've seen so many threads praising Mark Cerny, the PS4 technolgy, and this is the result? C'mon man. I don't know how long most people on this forum has been playing video games, but I assumed it's been enough to have some standards.
SkylineRKR
Member
Exactly. But we expect and want this game to be something entirely different. And it just isn't that. Can't even blame the game for not being what we want it to be tbh. They created a friendly brawler, and according to them Knack is based on GoW, Crash and Katamari.
But yeah, I wanted Knack to be a sort of Banjo. With Knacks abilities being used to cross hazards. For example, changing into a giant to topple a tree to use as a bridge. That sort of thing.
No, not a 10th of gameplay ideas, possibilities, you could compare it more accurately to project hammer, which Nintendo didn't dare to release. It's a B tier bland game from the footage we've seen so far.
XtremeXpider
Member
Honestly, I can't see where are the next gen graphics, looks nice.
ChaosAngel
Member
I personally wish this was just a Crash Bandicoot game.
Skinny Pete
Banned
This game looks like shit. Very disappointed with it. The gameplay looks dull and I am not really seeing a next gen looking game here. The explosions look awful and the enemies just disappear. Game is clearly not using much of the PS4 power.