Phatosaurus
Member
Sweet Jesus they're actually doing it. Operatorion Health redeemed
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Too bad "over the course of the next year" is incredibly vague in terms of deployment dates.
Phatosaurus
Member
Depends how you look at it. I see that as them being committed to supporting the game for well over a third year, which is a great thing in my opinion.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
So, I just ordered this game for my PS4. Is it possible to play this without a pre-made team? Or I'm basically fcked?
How is the learning curve?
How is the learning curve?
Phatosaurus
Member
You'll be fine and it's quite steep, but once you've got a good grasp on map layouts it'll become easier.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
My biggest problem was not having a pre made team. I'm usually a lone wolf type of player but I know how to play with a team.
You guys usually play?
Most excited for the lighting changes. That'll be nice. But that work will be appreciated.
PaulKersey
Member
Are they making the sound not trash? I hate the sound system in this game.
PeskyToaster
Member
You'll be fine without a premade. I usually play solo but i am a god.
valentine71
Banned
When do we get the new operators? Is there a usual day of the month?
August. There is not a standard day of the month.
Usually not till after the Pro League season finals which are August 25-27. So if I had to guess maybe new season starts on August 29th or September 5th since I think new content is usually on Tuesdays.
Finally
Shame they're tied to UPlay. That thing is a turd.
Phatosaurus
Member
At least they weren't important matches, just seeding for LAN and not qualifiers.
TimeEffect
Member
those lighting fixes are a game changer.
I know they intend to do a Year 3 and Year 4, so if it gets to that, Op Health is going to be great
I know they intend to do a Year 3 and Year 4, so if it gets to that, Op Health is going to be great
Neverender
Member
Whats wrong with the sound? Ive always thought it was incredible.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
What, why? They should keep this game for at least 2 more years thanks to its competitive scene (and because I just bought it).
Looks like I found another 2 friends to play with. I won't be a lone wolf after all.
PaulKersey
Member
I hate the way sound bounces off walls and stuff. The sounds aren't bad, it is the way sound works that I think isn't any good.
Phatosaurus
Member
The way it works is quite weird. Sound doesn't go through walls so much as travels through the nearest openings in walls (doors, windows, holes, etc). It especialliy weird with destruction in floors.
If there's a hole in the floor and your standing on it with somebody below you, they sound like they're next to you/behind you and not underneath you.
TheRazielim
Member
If we get the next RS, then we're gonna have to wait another 2 years for Operation Health.
Duchess O'Death
Member
Yep, seems like it works well on the horizontal plane but things get wonky when the sound source is above or below.
TimeEffect
Member
I am absolutely wrecking fools with Blitz. Feels so fun to play him again.
I just love how everyone underestimates and challenges me.
Bam! Get flashed. Waste your bullets while I sidestep you and finish you with casual pistol shots.
It a ton of fun and the C4 resistance makes him damn scary.
I still wish I could get a dot sight on the pistol though
I just love how everyone underestimates and challenges me.
Bam! Get flashed. Waste your bullets while I sidestep you and finish you with casual pistol shots.
It a ton of fun and the C4 resistance makes him damn scary.
I still wish I could get a dot sight on the pistol though
OfTheOverflow
Member
Lmao, that's exactly what I said when I first saw her. Feels copy pasted from Wildlands.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Yeah, I'm always versing inexperienced teams and it's disappointing for everyone involved. Feel bad when my friend and I come across a team of clearly new people and destroy them.
I caught up on some Macie Jay videos today, I've been letting them slip due to not enjoying the game as much as I used to. Noticed a couple things, the amount that Macie drop-shots and peeks/spawn-peeks has increased dramatically and their presence in the video is noticeable.
I know most people in this thread believe that sort of playing is just "part of the game" but for me, it's just kind of confirmed that the meta is moving away from what I enjoy about the game. I don't know whether Macie was influenced by the community or vice versa but it explains the sort of players I've been encountering in the game for the last month or so. It's feels to me like it's at an all-time high.
Further, I think the more popular this game becomes and the more players it "steals" from other franchises, the more similar to Shipment on COD4 matches will begin to feel like.
I know most people in this thread believe that sort of playing is just "part of the game" but for me, it's just kind of confirmed that the meta is moving away from what I enjoy about the game. I don't know whether Macie was influenced by the community or vice versa but it explains the sort of players I've been encountering in the game for the last month or so. It's feels to me like it's at an all-time high.
Further, I think the more popular this game becomes and the more players it "steals" from other franchises, the more similar to Shipment on COD4 matches will begin to feel like.
Ardenyal
Member
Macie is not a pro, hes a pub stomper. Catching people off guard is what gets him most success.
Drop shots should be nerfed though. Don't know what you can do about peekers advantage without affecting the core movement. Adding inertia would make the movement more predictable for the netcode and eliminate jiggle peek but I don't know if devs want that.
Chasm Skulker
Banned
I don't even understand why there's been an increase in dropshotting, did any of the mechanics even change to make it easier?
Phatosaurus
Member
Maybe I'm just a contrarian little bitch, but I don't think Ash, Hibana, Jager, etc. need any nerfs and I think dropshotting is fine as it is. They just need to sort their hit detection and netcode out.
I would be a-okay with Ash becoming a 2 armour/2 speed and Twitch becoming a 3 speed/1 armour though.
salty_Josh
Member
Twitch and Ash have two of the best guns in the game. Swaping their speeds like that is just going to replace thier roles as the 3 speed run and gunner. There wouldn't be much point in that change really. I agree with your point about dropshotting being fine because more often than not it gets the dropshotter killed.
The only real issues I have with hitting 3speeds comes when they are moving at mach 5 being boosted by their static 200 ping. Sometimes I wonder whether ubisoft even has servers in the Middle East because the number of people I see playing Ash or Bandit with +200 ping whilst sponsored by KSA is pretty rediculous. They aren't even queueing with anyone so they just randomly get put here for some reason (UK here).
Also, I've never seen Macie Jay dropshot on purpose (yes he's done it by accident) but he always says there's a way to counter spawn peaking and has shown in his streams and his vids that spawn peaking is a free kill for attackers. He only really spawn peaks when he's bored and playing lower ranks because he's playing with his viewers.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
If I didn't have to thread a needle with a bullet to get a headshot on Ash I would otherwise say she's fine. The ping problem that makes her precognitive is another story, but I don't really blame her build for that.
Jager's gun being the only one of it's class for the Defenders is kinda shitty, but he's the only consistently good long range Defender imo, so I'm less annoyed with him than Ash.
It is weird that drop shotting seems to be a new thing, since I presume it was always possible but I never did it. It would be nice if they slowed that, it's not really something I like in a game that's not CoD.
Jager's gun being the only one of it's class for the Defenders is kinda shitty, but he's the only consistently good long range Defender imo, so I'm less annoyed with him than Ash.
It is weird that drop shotting seems to be a new thing, since I presume it was always possible but I never did it. It would be nice if they slowed that, it's not really something I like in a game that's not CoD.
TimeEffect
Member
Ash needs some kind of nerf. Her head being so small is criminal, and it's just disgusting how fast she is. I absolutely hate getting killed by Ash players who rush and strafe like mad.
And I agree about drop shotting. I hope they introduce a BF-like penalty or solution.
And I agree about drop shotting. I hope they introduce a BF-like penalty or solution.
I think the absolute best way to discourage drop shotting would be to change the animations a bit so that you can't aim/shoot and move at the same time. Something like Battlefield where your gun won't get ready until you are totally prone.
Apart from this the other thing they can add is that once you are prone you can only ADS so long as you are staying still (you can still shoot and aim your cursor but not ADS). No more ADS and omni directional crawling at the same time.
Two changes that I'd like adde in.
Yes Operation health redeemed !
Between this and the lighting fix I am very happy.
Apart from this the other thing they can add is that once you are prone you can only ADS so long as you are staying still (you can still shoot and aim your cursor but not ADS). No more ADS and omni directional crawling at the same time.
Two changes that I'd like adde in.
Yes Operation health redeemed !
Between this and the lighting fix I am very happy.
darkwing-buck
Member
Drop-shotting is a thing? I don't run into that on PC
I come across it on a fairly common basis on both PC and consoles. On consoles you can almost always guarantee that the dropshotter is using elite/scuf controller or XIM KB/m
Noice, always thought it was weird that Valkyries ingame face looked nothing like the artwork
Yeah. She's not the only one, either. This is a nice change and one I honestly didn't think they'd get to.
Well Twitch got a makeover, it was about time Valkyrie got one too.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Afaik, you don't get additional team members on the match point rounds (if that's true). So maybe had something to do with it. But yeah, matchmaking is bizzare with pairing people. Fast, but really not fair.