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Gametrailers Lair **New** "HD" clips
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Doom_Bringer
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Kaching said the particle system in this game is very weak so don't expect them to overhaul the fire effects. What additions will the make to the engine between now and when the game ships is anyone's guess (improved frame rate, optimizing the engine etc)
nelsonroyale
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Deepblue said:
I take you would apply the same rationale for halo 3?
:lol Not quite. I just pointed out they're using the same basic type of particle effects for fire, explosions, dust, water spray. I don't know if that renders their particle system "weak", just bland.Doom_Bringer said:
Which says nothing about when they finalized the alpha build.Deepblue said:
Ynos Yrros
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Thanks for that gif mckmas. I'm pretty confident in saying that characters armor is more detailed than in GeoW or Mass Effect, or most other games out there. Also textures on the ground and building, up close, are pretty much on par with GeoW.
Factor 5 is truly powerful when it comes to technology, streaming textures and progressive mesh make the game look amazing on both micro and macro levels.
Factor 5 is truly powerful when it comes to technology, streaming textures and progressive mesh make the game look amazing on both micro and macro levels.
mckmas8808
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Ynos Yrros said:
Yeah it's crazy what they are doing in such a huge world. I wonder how long the game will be.
Seeing the guy running around the ground makes me wish there was melee fighting... But then I remember I wished the same thing when Rogue Squadron came out and when Rogue Leader included ground combat I think we all regreted it.
Still I'd love to walk around and bash people with a mace then jump on my dragon and cook their corpse.
Still I'd love to walk around and bash people with a mace then jump on my dragon and cook their corpse.
mckmas8808
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Oni Jazar said:
Yeah me too.
I'd like to walk around in this huge world and just explore and do nothing. I did it in SoTC all the time.
The detail from 20,000 ft is just as amazing as it is on the ground. The thought of a FPS/Flight action title (done right) using this engine really makes the mind wander. I was honestly hoping that Warhawk would implement such gameplay. I guess we can hope that maybe we'll see more ground interaction in a sequel, or a completely different IP. Hell, F5 could make some serious bank sharing this technology with other devs.
Very nice cloth dynamics on the main character. I'd actually like to see some small on-foot parts in the missions. It doesn't have to be like Rogue Leader - for instance, you could get knocked off your dragon by a giant monster in a cutscene. Quickly, you escape into a large deserted building complex or tunnel system. You don't encounter any enemies there, but the large monster shows up to stalk you in a GoWII Colossus of Rhodes fashion. Eventually, you find your way out and end up on a giant bridge, where the giant monster finds you and it seems as if you're toast... but your dragon swoops down from the skies and rescues you, enabling you to finish the fight.
There, that would make for some nice variety and a chance for Factor 5 to impress us with some close-up interior designs.
There, that would make for some nice variety and a chance for Factor 5 to impress us with some close-up interior designs.
mckmas8808
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belvedere said:
They already are within SCEWWS. Other Sony devs will probably get to use this engine if they want too.
mckmas8808
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Ceb said:
They did say some of those things would happen.
InterMoniker
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Ya I was thinking the same thingCeb said:
Maybe Factor 5 don't have enough time develop solid on-foot gameplay mechanics? Or maybe they want to put the focus on the dragons. All I know is hijacking a horse GTA style would be awesome.
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nelsonroyale
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Deepblue said:
what was a year ago?
Doom_Bringer
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what is with this pointless bickering? Both games will improve when they are released.
Different companies have different meanings for "alpha versions." For bungine it's no high res textures and zero effects and for factor 5 it's wonky frame rates
Different companies have different meanings for "alpha versions." For bungine it's no high res textures and zero effects and for factor 5 it's wonky frame rates
nelsonroyale
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Doom_Bringer said:
eh? You should know something about 'pointless bickering'.
Anyway, I was just addressing to him, since he obviously seems to apply special critical attention to this game (and other ps3 games)
peace
Doom_Bringer
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nelsonroyale said:
he is a xbot, give him a break
nelsonroyale
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Doom_Bringer said:
aight
nelsonroyale
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InterMoniker said:Ya I was thinking the same thing
that horse looks like the horse in kameo, same detail too, theres probably hundreds of them too
InterMoniker
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Probably. I don't think they've had horses is any of the gameplay clips yet though.nelsonroyale said:
I've never played Kameo.
InterMoniker said:Ya I was thinking the same thing
Or maybe Sony put them in touch with the Warhawk team. I kid, I kid.
Looks like they have a decent ground component, but chose to focus on aerial combat for obvious reasons. I mean, you have command of a dragon. Why land but for a brief snack for your steed or to nab a new toy to play with and then toss into the teaming ocean?
InterMoniker
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Hahaha true trueurk said:
nelsonroyale
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Raist said:That's a joke, right ?
eh I was just thinking of it from the back with the same neck armour etc...not the actual design
Lord Error
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If there's one thing that irks me in Lair's visuals, other than it's questionable fire effects (they sometimes look good IMO, but sometimes look worse than in some PS2 games), it's the way they render grass. In some of the videos it looks so bad that's I'd prefer the effect was removed altogether and replaced with cobblestone or some other surface they render really well. This method worked well in Motorstorm as you're mostly going forward so the grass patches don't feel out of place, and there aren't that many of them, but in Lair, you seem to often have to rotate around in place, and the grass just looks weird when that happens, and there's so much of it, and yet not enough I guess to be convincingly fooling the eye. When you're rotating around it looks like a broken diorama or something, it definitely doesn't go well with realistic look they have on everything else. Kameo picture already shows better looking grass IMO (even though it's a same exact technique), not to mention the way it was done even last gen in MGS3.
In depth looks just crazy, and is actually well encoded so you can see everything:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18644&type=wmv&pl=game
(SD version)
just awesome, and best video so far
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18644&type=wmv&pl=game
(SD version)
just awesome, and best video so far