I thought it could mean a lot of things. Maybe releasing the entire Wii's VC game library again (there's over 400 titles), just releasing new VC downloads for all platforms (where's Yoshi's Island ?!), or maybe just a new ones like for GameCube.
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New Nintendo Direct - Today! Right Now! [cvxfreak summary Post #85]
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I thought it could mean a lot of things. Maybe releasing the entire Wii's VC game library again (there's over 400 titles), just releasing new VC downloads for all platforms (where's Yoshi's Island ?!), or maybe just a new ones like for GameCube.
I've not had problems with any of the turnkey Western Digitals I've used. I'll likely grab a 2.5" bus powered (I fucking HATE cables) jobby if I need it.
Have they specifically said why Wii games aren't playable on the gamepad? The gamepad's resolution is 480p, so I can't see scaling being the issue.
Obviously it will be incompatible with games that require pointer controls, but apart from incompatible controls I don't know what the issue is.
Obviously it will be incompatible with games that require pointer controls, but apart from incompatible controls I don't know what the issue is.
To play Wii games you are emulating a Wii. The Wii cannot communicate with a Wii U pad.
ok here is the god damned freakin deal.
lets say i decide to transfer my wii vc/wii ware games to wiiu.
and my system is broken:am i going to lose my games?
im asking this,because i havent found a single piece of news whether my wii purchases are transfered in my nintendo network account.
.if so,next year they said that nintendo network is going to expand in other nintendo systems.
3ds is a given,but IF wii is added to this,well yes my games stay on wii
lets say i decide to transfer my wii vc/wii ware games to wiiu.
and my system is broken:am i going to lose my games?
im asking this,because i havent found a single piece of news whether my wii purchases are transfered in my nintendo network account.
.if so,next year they said that nintendo network is going to expand in other nintendo systems.
3ds is a given,but IF wii is added to this,well yes my games stay on wii
TheCongressman1
Member
I'm not ok with that at all. If I bought them, I shouldn't have to re-buy them.
So while you're in Wii mode, you can't access the Wii U OS at all? Eh, that's kind of shitty but obviously Nintendo is shooting for 100% compatibility. Sounds identical to the GC compatibility mode with the Wii.
Yeah, pretty much. It's exactly the same reason you can't use the CC Pro on Gamecube games.
kunonabi
Member
One of the many reasons I'm not transferring my Wii data over. The Wii will stay on my crt and will be my Wii/GC/Retro machine.
It really sucks that Nintendo is making no moves to actually make the VC relevant again. I'm going to buy the few Wii VC titles I'm missing and just buy the occasional portable VC game on my 3DS when they get released. I'm probably going to have to buy another NGPC since they aren't getting around to those anytime soon.
MisterC20XX
Member
Wow, I love Nintendo Directs! I wish other companies did this. So nice to get the info direct from the source rather than wading through secondhand recaps.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I hope that in the future they'll allow some sort of key transfer to my Nintendo Network ID or whatever and let me redownload Wii U compatible versions for free.
... Who the fuck am I kidding? Nintendo milking that shit. >_>
... Who the fuck am I kidding? Nintendo milking that shit. >_>
didn't you buy them for nes/snes/n64?
It's delusional to think Nintendo was going to sell you Super Mario World digitally once for $5 and let you keep if forever, transferring it to every new Nintendo console that is released until the end of time.
If you want the new, tablet controller support, you're going to have to fork over the extra dough. Until then, they still let you transfer the games over and play on the TV, like always. Seems like a smart business model to me. Is it fair? I guess that's up to the consumer.
Personally, I'm in no rush to rebuy (and replay on the gamepad) my vast collection of Virtual Console games. Like I mentioned before, I'll quintuple dip on Ocarina of Time to get the gamepad support, but I won't be randomly impulse buying like I did with the Wii VC.
TheCongressman1
Member
I never said we should be able to transfer them forever. It's just that the functionality between the two would be so similar, the only add on would be to use it on the pad. I am aware they have to work around the Wii mode, but I don't think it's fair to have to buy the entire game again. Perhaps a 1 or 2 dollar upgrade? That seems a lot better.
Alec
Member
Let it be said that I agree with you. I don't believe that Nintendo will come up with a system that will allow those who have already purchased VC games on the Wii to upgrade to the Wii U version for free.
But your comment got me to thinking...linking all of these accounts together, Wii, Wii U and 3DS...it would put Nintendo in an excellent position to advertise their own "Cross Buy" promotions.
DeuceGamer
Member
Why the discrepancy in amount of used storage space in basic vs deluxe? Basic uses .8 GB's while Deluxe uses 3 GB's? Was it mentioned or anyone have a clue?
Yeah, that would be fair. Unfortunately, I still don't see it happening.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Yeah with all the glory of Fallblox I completely forgot how pitiful the Virtual Console is looking right now. If the whole point of the service is to illicit nostalgia, what is the point in putting games on there only a handful played? I know, I know. Drip strategy. Can't release everything at once. It still sucks.
New Majora's Mask though? No... no thankyou. Maybe a third game to complete the "Ocarina" trilogy where he finally finds Navi.
Flame Lord
Member
Pretty disappointing I have to use whatever drive I get for the WiiU only on the WiiU. There's no way I'm going to fill up 1TB, especially when first party games are apparently only going to be a few GB.
I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a classic gamecube controller.
I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a classic gamecube controller.
TheCongressman1
Member
I don't either.
Oh well, I won't be buying old VC titles again, but maybe they will follow through with the GC games.
Digital triggers be damned.
ChosenPredator
Banned
im surprised that doesn't bug more people
Don't use NintendoLand and NSMBU as any indication of every future Wii U game size...
AndyMoogle
Member
1TB will still be way too much for most people. You'll probably have to buy at least 50-60 retail games to fill 1TB.
360 does the same, it's pretty normal that they need to use different file systems.
JimboJones
Member
Don't buy a 1TB drive then, I only got a 320GB 2.5" drive for the Wii for backing up my games no need to pay extra for space you wont need.
I havn't bought any drive yet for my delux model, i'll work out what I need in 6 months to a years time. I doubt i'll be buying many retail games digitally unless Nintendo or third partys offer some benifits.
Flame Lord
Member
I was getting 1TB mostly because it seemed like I would get more bang for my buck. 320Gb isn't that much cheaper than it.
Wait until someone gets one and checks it out. If they are using a standard Filesystem you may be able to re partition it after the initial format. Or someone will figure out how to do it.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
2 TB is fine. Nobody is going to need that much space, unless the Wii U retail game downloads take up a crazy amount of space, like Tekken Tag 2 does.
AndyMoogle
Member
There will be games that take up the whole 25GB on the disc, but I'm expecting the average to be between 10-15GB for retail games. Even if the average ends up being 20GB, you should be able to fit almost 100 games on a 2TB HDD.
YESSSss.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Good to hear. I guess I can get one and if it doesn't work, get another enclosure with a y cable or even one with a power adaptor. I'm not sure which is worse. A y cable or a single USB cable and a power adaptor. I kind of like the idea of having no power adaptor connected.
Edit: Anybody have any links to good, cheap 500 GB or 1 TB HDD's? I hear people talk about 2 TB for $100 yet I see a lot of 1TB HDD for $100 on Amazon.
AndyMoogle
Member
Probably only a matter of time before we get software that can read a WiiU formatted drive.
boiled goose
good with gravy
I want to transfer them forever. Yes.
When I buy a song on itunes, it is transferred to my new ipod.
When I buy a game on steam, it will be transferred to my new PC.
Digital content is different from physical content. You are not only investing in hardware anymore, but a service and a platform.
If I have to rebuy my VC games on WiiU for them to be tied to my account I am never buying any digital content from nintendo ever again.
Doesn't matter. Like the 3DS everything will be referenced by incomprehensible GUIDs linked to an encrypted database of title info. You would have no way to know what you are managing.
Same. Imagine if Apple released a new iPod and it wouldn't play any of your old songs. Nintendo is selling the hardware and the software. I expect the digital Nintendo software that Nintendo sells me to work on all Nintendo hardware I purchase. I can wait.
AndyMoogle
Member
I'm assuming he'd want to backup the files, so that should be possible.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I'm hoping they average around 10-15 GB. A 500GB HDD puts me around 30-50 games. By that time, I usually am ok with Refrigerator maintenance. I usually don't have a need to play that many games. Unless they have some 1TB drives around $50-60. That's what I'm seeing a lot of the 500GB go for. Maybe I should wait another week and see what I can get on black friday.
sakipon
Member
But the games do work. Just go to the Wii mode and they'll all be there.
Is Apple giving remastered songs for free?
WrenchNinja
Member
Youre expecting Nintendo to remaster vc titles?
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Same. They are making a killing off of these. $5 for a game they got one intern to code in a day? Ok, that may be extreme but they are not sinking a ton of money into these things. It's time for all hardware manufacturer's to allow these titles to be persistant. It's a goodwill gesture. It's what will keep people coming back. The knowledge that you have 10-20 VC titles just waiting for you will be a benefit. They need to do that at least, in the face of the economy and the changes the vg industry has gone thru.
And remember, they said that they will be adding the ability to add another drive down the road. There is nothing to worry about.
Some screens/translations.
New Super Mario Bros. U stored on internal memory and Nintendo Land stored on a USB device.
Copying and movement of data will be possible with a forthcoming update
And the Data Management menu:
Top button:
- Manage Data
Bottom button:
- Format USB device
Bottom left button (B):
- Go back
Left button:
- Internal memory
- Remaining available space: 20 GB
Right button:
- USB device
- Remaining available space: 1863 GB
Bottom left button (B):
- Go back
New Super Mario Bros. U stored on internal memory and Nintendo Land stored on a USB device.
Copying and movement of data will be possible with a forthcoming update
And the Data Management menu:
Top button:
- Manage Data
Bottom button:
- Format USB device
Bottom left button (B):
- Go back
Left button:
- Internal memory
- Remaining available space: 20 GB
Right button:
- USB device
- Remaining available space: 1863 GB
Bottom left button (B):
- Go back