Indeed, early kits usually have lower specs than the final hardware
In xbox 360 case early kits were a generation behind Xenos for example
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Indeed, early kits usually have lower specs than the final hardware
In xbox 360 case early kits were a generation behind Xenos for example
Trogdor1123
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So do we want unified memory now or separated memory? Was this part of the problem with PS3 and 360 games using differnt methods?
Where are you getting the idea that it uses anything from IBM? All the rumours over the past months seem to make that unlikely.
Can Crusher
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Since when? 3GB of ram for OS sounds awfully, and I mean AWFULLY overkill and unoptimized and unnecessary.
Going from 32 MB of Ram, to 3 GB....is the OS going to cook you dinner and blow you or something?
Windows 8 uses around 1Gb of ram. That's on a desktop! How does RT fare on the tablet side for example? (Which comes with 2GB of ram for example).
It seems pretty out there, that not only would they beat Nintendo's terrible OS optimization, but beat it by a factor of 3?
I don't see it.
Karak
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Depends on MANY things. Even moreso this gen almost.
It popped up recently from a very respected source. But they have been wrong 1-2 times before. Right moreso than wrong.
Revisions Reduce Requirements. That is one of the mantra's. It will be 1:1 or a bit more by the time it comes around.
AstroNut325
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Need more info. But it is looking good so far. At the very least we will be a significant leap in terms of visuals and overall gameplay options/mechanics.
HollovVpo1nt
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By the way, AMD renamed their HD 7000 series to HD 8000, renamed.
http://www.digitalversus.com/graphi...its-entire-radeon-range-seriously-n27733.html
- Radeon HD 7970 GHz is now called Radeon HD 8970
- Radeon HD 7950 v2 is now called Radeon HD 8950
- Radeon HD 7870 is now called Radeon HD 8870
- Radeon HD 7770 is now called Radeon HD 8760
- Radeon HD 7750 v2 is now called Radeon HD 8740
The architecture doesn't change, just the name. So I wonder if we will see a read 8000 series GPU in the 720 or just a renamed 7000 series GPU.
http://www.digitalversus.com/graphi...its-entire-radeon-range-seriously-n27733.html
- Radeon HD 7970 GHz is now called Radeon HD 8970
- Radeon HD 7950 v2 is now called Radeon HD 8950
- Radeon HD 7870 is now called Radeon HD 8870
- Radeon HD 7770 is now called Radeon HD 8760
- Radeon HD 7750 v2 is now called Radeon HD 8740
The architecture doesn't change, just the name. So I wonder if we will see a read 8000 series GPU in the 720 or just a renamed 7000 series GPU.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Set-top box TV channel recording while you play a game is probably going to be the RAM hog responsible alongside a full W8 OS.
Gaz Pwnage
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Hopefully it really is 8GB RAM in the final version.
I have faith, i dont think MS will let us down
I have faith, i dont think MS will let us down
phosphor112
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So will Forza 5 look like this or what?
lol...
Likely not. There is no use to waste polygons on details you wont see in games.
Not entirely true.
Quicksilver4648
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While these rumors are nothing more than speculation until credible sources get involved, such as Microsoft finally showing off the console, but if this rumor is true then I will be very content with that. While it might not be up to the levels of an ultra high end gaming PC I think it would last us just fine for a good number of years.
That's only for OEM configurations, nothing new. Same thing happened few times before for both AMD and nVidia.
Desktop 8000 series will come out in Q2, and it will be powerful and fully HSA compatible.
Can Crusher
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http://www.gamerzines.com/playstation/news-ps3/crytek-next-gen-8gb-ram.html
Rumours about 8GB for next gen are older than that man.
1 core, 1gb?
Karak
Member
Way older.And yes. 1 core 1 gb. That would be an excellent overall secondary system to run various other stuff. With a good system for watching for any misused allocated resources that would be all you need for a good deal of time. Even with some big updates. Additionally if MS pushes a cloud secondary system in 2-4 years after this release, some stuff can be pushed off into the cloud.
Doing a full rename of the entire range up to top-end cards is new I think. And particularly brazen.
IBM has fabs too...
-Pyromaniac-
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I wonder how much of the RAM is available for games. 8 is a lot either way!
HollovVpo1nt
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What's you're take on this info? I've always been fascinated by your view on console tech on B3D.
Proelite
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Yeah alpha devkit specs would shock people senseless, if they were impressed by these specs.
Yes, i should mention that ram is usually half
So, probably a stronger GPU and about 4GB main ram + 2GB VRAM perhaps
Unless the 8GB is unified, so that would make for 4GB total ram
Psychotext
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Proelite
Member
It's 8gb unified for the final console. These specs are not dev kit specs.
I hope this is true, 8 gigs of ram would amazing. Now we just need to know what type.
TV recording while gaming shouldn't be an issue, the PS3 has been doing it for years.
Well, in that case i find hard to believe that new rumor
Would be amazing though if something like that happened
One can read multiple things in the first sentence.
Proelite
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Alpha kits were 8 core 16 thread Intel Xeons, 12gb ram, and very powerful 7000 series cards.
I don't think there's any way durango's total flops could work out to what's in the devkit, honestly. It would be absurd.
Basileus777
Member
That was basically a confirmation of it not being a rumor.
Shock in a positive or negative way? I don't really get your point here.
Karak
Member
Proelite
Member
Read my post above.
Karak
Member
Really?
Anyways, there was the multi-sourcing rumour from Charlie awhile back, and there are few that would be appropriate. Along with the Jaguar rumour, it ought to be fabbed pretty much anywhere on 28/32nm.
Now how they're going to mitigate the poop bandwidth that goes along with commodity RAM is going to be fun.
Are alpha kits more powerful to make up for missing optimizations that will be possible with the finished thing?
McHuj
Member
Really?
So a 32nm APU/SOC then?
Proelite
Member
Yes. And various reasons.
They won't be downgrading the games when they switch to newer games that's for sure.
By all accounts, bigass custom 28nm APU.
Psychotext
Member
Monstrous.
Positive. Very.
Lots of good custom silicon coming
so, does this indicate that since alpha durango was downgraded - or that they were able to achieve virtually the same with custom built other components (ie, new kit is roughly = to alpha kit in terms of actual performance despite what it looks like)?
EDIT: saw responses above.
i was angling for some erring, hand waving, confirmation or dismissal of the ~2.5tflop GPU buzz.
answer on an anonymous postcard.
Karak
Member
EDITED: You already saw the answer.
TheLegendOfMart
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Spill it or do one, no one likes an attention whore.
As I understand the latter.
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