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The Faceless Master
(01-27-2011, 11:06 PM)
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UPDATE: a new and fixed 3.56 is now up!


Original post follows:

apparently, when you are on 3.56, you can no longer swap the HDD for an upgrade on PS3 consoles with 16MB flash. 256MB units apparently work fine. it's nice to see that even after such a long response, this update replicated a bug that was introduced, then fixed around 5 updates ago!

bugfixed 3.56 incoming!
Gravijah
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(01-27-2011, 11:07 PM)
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thank god i fucking hate """open""" consoles
Choppasmith
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(01-27-2011, 11:08 PM)
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The 16MB flashes are the newer Slims, right?
Snuggles
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(01-27-2011, 11:10 PM)
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Interesting.

Do you think this was an error, or intentional? I'm not sure if this includes my Slim, but I have a 250gb HDD so it's not like I'll be swapping it out anytime soon.
Dambrosi
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(01-27-2011, 11:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Choppasmith

The 16MB flashes are the newer Slims, right?

And some later Phats, I believe.

Either way, 3.57 incoming shortly. This HAS to be a bug.
test_account
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(01-27-2011, 11:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Choppasmith

The 16MB flashes are the newer Slims, right?

Yep, but some PS3 Phat models also uses 16MB:

Code:

    * FAT NAND SIZE
          o CECHA = 256MB
          o CECHB = 256MB
          o CECHC = 256MB
          o CECHE = 256MB
          o CECHG = 256MB
          o CECHH = 16MB
          o CECHJ = 16MB
          o CECHK = 16MB
          o CECHL = 16MB
          o CECHM = 16MB
          o CECHP = 16MB
          o CECHQ = 16MB
    * SLIM NAND SIZE
          o CECH-20..A = 16MB
          o CECH-20..B = 16MB
          o CECH-21..A = 16MB
          o CECH-21..B = 16MB
          o CECH-250.A = 16MB
          o CECH-250.B = 16MB
          o CECH-250.A = 16MB
          o CECH-250.B = 16MB
          o CECH-251.A = 16MB
          o CECH-251.B = 16MB
Emitan
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(01-27-2011, 11:11 PM)
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Wait, so I can't replace my hard drive? I'm on a Slim.
MrTroubleMaker
(01-27-2011, 11:12 PM)
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wow what a f'up :/
h3ro
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(01-27-2011, 11:12 PM)
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Never mind, question got answered while I was typing. :)

Fix it Guerilla.
Baller, PhD
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(01-27-2011, 11:12 PM)
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Intentional?
Revolutionary
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(01-27-2011, 11:14 PM)
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Has to be a mistake.
Dambrosi
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(01-27-2011, 11:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Billychu

Wait, so I can't replace my hard drive? I'm on a Slim.

If you're on current OFW, no.

Originally Posted by H3ro

How do you tell what amount you have?

OG Fats in trouble or Slims?

See test_account's list, then check the back of your PS3 or the box it came in. You should find a similar code on the serial number part.
FunkyPajamas
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(01-27-2011, 11:14 PM)
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Phew, 80gb BC PS3 here, I've been thinking about upgrading my hard drive for a while. Good thing I'm not affected. Hopefully they fix it soon for those who are. What a mess Sony.
SuperŅ
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(01-27-2011, 11:14 PM)
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Props to the firmware team, one more time.
Beer Monkey
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(01-27-2011, 11:15 PM)
You really shouldn't install this firmware anyway if you want to keep your homebrew options open.
SteelAttack
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(01-27-2011, 11:15 PM)
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Sony proprietary HDD announcement incoming?

At any rate, hope this bug gets fixed. And this thread reminded me I haven't upgraded firmware yet.
WickedLaharl
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(01-27-2011, 11:16 PM)
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it only does constant updates.
FunkyPajamas
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(01-27-2011, 11:16 PM)
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Wait, so what happens to somebody who had already upgraded the hard drive? Would the PS3 stop reading it?
Speevy
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(01-27-2011, 11:17 PM)
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Oh HELL no.
Choppasmith
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(01-27-2011, 11:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by test_account

Yep, but some PS3 Phat models also uses 16MB:

Code:

    * FAT NAND SIZE
          o CECHA = 256MB
          o CECHB = 256MB
          o CECHC = 256MB
          o CECHE = 256MB
          o CECHG = 256MB
          o CECHH = 16MB
          o CECHJ = 16MB
          o CECHK = 16MB
          o CECHL = 16MB
          o CECHM = 16MB
          o CECHP = 16MB
          o CECHQ = 16MB
    * SLIM NAND SIZE
          o CECH-20..A = 16MB
          o CECH-20..B = 16MB
          o CECH-21..A = 16MB
          o CECH-21..B = 16MB
          o CECH-250.A = 16MB
          o CECH-250.B = 16MB
          o CECH-250.A = 16MB
          o CECH-250.B = 16MB
          o CECH-251.A = 16MB
          o CECH-251.B = 16MB

Thanks! Pretty sure I'm CECHA, I wasn't planning on upgrading anytime soon anyway.

Still, can't help but wonder if you upgraded you HDD fine on a 16MB Flash and THEN upgraded to 3.56, are you screwed?
Dibbz
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(01-27-2011, 11:18 PM)
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What if you already have upgraded your HDD?

My brother upgraded his 80GB unit a long time ago. If he updates his FW will he be ok?
KAL2006
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(01-27-2011, 11:18 PM)
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another feature removed, next up USB slots will be unusable

dont hate on sony hate on the hackers :)
neoism
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(01-27-2011, 11:18 PM)
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lol I haven't even turned my system on in like 40 days.... I have an 80gb BC system so I'm safe I guess.
Loudninja
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How does the sun burn?
Food for thought.
(01-27-2011, 11:19 PM)
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Any source of people saying this any facts?
Snuggles
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(01-27-2011, 11:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by KAL2006

don't hate on sony hate on the hackers :)

Can I hate them both?
The Faceless Master
(01-27-2011, 11:21 PM)
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again folks, it's a bug. it happened before. whatever HDD was in when you upgraded to 3.56, keep it in and your PS3 will work fine!
S1kkZ
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(01-27-2011, 11:21 PM)
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source please
test_account
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(01-27-2011, 11:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Choppasmith

Thanks! Pretty sure I'm CECHA, I wasn't planning on upgrading anytime soon anyway.

Still, can't help but wonder if you upgraded you HDD fine on a 16MB Flash and THEN upgraded to 3.56, are you screwed?

No problem :) I copied that list from an other website, but i can only assume that the info is correct.

Unfortunately i have no idea about if the HDD will be fine if you have upgraded it before firmware 3.56. I updated to firmware 3.56 myself, but i am still using the original 120GB HDD that came with my PS3 Slim.
Lince
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(01-27-2011, 11:23 PM)
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latest Slim models are 320 GB, you won't fill that until OFW 5.0 at the very earliest. And for sure the 120 GB of the first Slim model are no slouch.

big deal, first of all kill the damn pirates and hackers wannabe, bugs like these can wait, online cheating can't. I'm sure this bug will affect exactly 12 persons worldwide until a fix is live.
angelfly
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(01-27-2011, 11:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Faceless Master

again folks, it's a bug. it happened before. whatever HDD was in when you upgraded to 3.56, keep it in and your PS3 will work fine!

Will formatting work?
painful fart
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(01-27-2011, 11:26 PM)
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Calling Sonys firmware department a bunch of monkeys would be an insult to all monkeys in the world.
h3ro
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(01-27-2011, 11:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by KAL2006


dont hate on sony hate on the hackers :)

I will hate on them both equally, thank you very much.
Dambrosi
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(01-27-2011, 11:26 PM)
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And just when we thought Sony had actually been clever for once.
Gaogaogao
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(01-27-2011, 11:26 PM)
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what the fuck, theres is less of a reason to upgrade every time...
Withnail
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(01-27-2011, 11:27 PM)
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Yeah more pointless updates incoming.

But at least we got homebrew right :|
StuBurns
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(01-27-2011, 11:27 PM)
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I don't know if my machine is old enough. It has BC, European model.
Emitan
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(01-27-2011, 11:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lince

latest Slim models are 320 GB, you won't fill that until OFW 5.0 at the very earliest. And for sure the 120 GB of the first Slim model are no slouch.

big deal, first of all kill the damn pirates and hackers wannabe, bugs like these can wait, online cheating can't. I'm sure this bug will affect exactly 12 persons worldwide until a fix is live.

I could very easily fill my 120GB HDD tonight if you wanted. I have tons of music and movies I could put on the system and use it as more of a media player.
Clear
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(01-27-2011, 11:30 PM)
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Yeah, I'd like to see some attribution to this rumour too. Its very specific about an action that most users are only going to use rarely, which is why I'm surprised this has been proven for a FW update out so recently.
Captain Pants
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(01-27-2011, 11:30 PM)
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I just put a 500GB in my Slim last week. Good timing.:)
Brazil
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(01-27-2011, 11:32 PM)
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I entered GAF searching for that old thread that taught how to exchange HDDs and found this one instead.

I swear to God.
lupinko
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(01-27-2011, 11:33 PM)
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Since it's only limited to 16MB units, pretty sure this is just a bug.

lol 3.56+ will be up soon enough.
Speevy
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(01-27-2011, 11:36 PM)
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My original PS3 Fat had a 250 GB until it (the system) died. This new one has a 160 GB drive, and I was planning to swap it out.
kamspy
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(01-27-2011, 11:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by S1kkZ

source please

I've been trying troubleshoot a HDD problem for friend of mine all day. He chose the wrong day to change his HDD. Can't even play right now. I guess I can link to the thread. It was started 6:05 AM EST today.

http://www.highdefforum.com/gaming-s...pted-data.html
Nakazato
(01-27-2011, 11:45 PM)
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am i safe with my 20gb ps3 ?? :(
zoku88
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(01-27-2011, 11:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by KAL2006

another feature removed, next up USB slots will be unusable

dont hate on sony hate on the hackers :)

the hackers don't make sony do anything.

only sony can be blamed for the removal of advertised features.
test_account
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(01-27-2011, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by zoku88

the hackers don't make sony do anything.

only sony can be blamed for the removal of advertised features.

It depends on the situation in my opinion. Techincally Sony does have a choice to do nothing, that is true, but if their system(s) are hacked, they might be "forced" to take certain action in an attempt to fix the security holes.
Paracelsus
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(01-27-2011, 11:53 PM)
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Something tells me they are waiting to brand the next PSP as PSP2 to see if it's the case to bail the fuck out and call it "PS4".
Wolves Evolve
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(01-27-2011, 11:54 PM)
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Yes, thats' right. The hackers. Those filthy hackers did this.

Certainly not Sony's tested track record of screwing up firmware.

Its always those dirty, dirty hackers.



Jesus fucking Christ.
Zzoram
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(01-27-2011, 11:56 PM)
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Why did they drop the flash from 256MB to 16MB in slim models? Does it affect performance?
Dambrosi
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(01-28-2011, 12:02 AM)
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Don't hate them, Wolves. Some people are just too lazy to form their own opinions, is all.

This is Sony's fault, nobody else's. Just like their "random-but-not-random" snafu.

Zzoram: To save money at quality's expense. Why else?

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